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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

Bruce Beford-2

I installed the P3SVGA board in my unit yesterday. On mine, it also does not
display properly in 1920x1080. I have an Acer H243H monitor. It natively
supports "Full HD", 1920x1080p. When I set the P3 SVGA output to 1920x1080,
the monitor confirms that it has switched to that resolution. However, the
P3 image appears to extend off the right of the screen. That is to say, the
full span to the right is not displayed. The vertical span is fine. There
also appear to be small white dots moving horizontally through the spectrum
portion of the display, as if the display is "wrapping" somehow. (This is no
doubt an inaccurate description, but the best I can do. I have tried
reloading all firmware (1.12) and FPGA files to no effect.

Note that the monitor displays my PCs output at 1920x1080 using the DVI
(rather than VGA) input with no problems, so I know the monitor is capable.

For now, I am running at 1440x900 from the P3 with no problems.

73,
Bruce, N1RX

> 1080 overflows my 1080P monitor also.  <snip>
> Rick
> K6LE



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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

Byron Servies
Hi,

I would suggest checking your monitors settings to make sure it is not
in a "full" compatibility mode (the names seem to change.  It might be
different for your monitor).  That is, the monitor can expand a 4x3
image to fit the 16x9 HD image vertically and thus chop off parts of
the image on the sides and eliminate the "black bar" problem.

Just an idea,

73, Byron N6NUL

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Bruce Beford
<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I installed the P3SVGA board in my unit yesterday. On mine, it also does not
> display properly in 1920x1080. I have an Acer H243H monitor. It natively
> supports "Full HD", 1920x1080p. When I set the P3 SVGA output to 1920x1080,
> the monitor confirms that it has switched to that resolution. However, the
> P3 image appears to extend off the right of the screen. That is to say, the
> full span to the right is not displayed.

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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

Bruce Beford-2
Thanks, Byron, but I have already done this. No joy. The 1920x1080 is a 16:9
mode, so no cropping or stretching should be applied by the monitor.
-Bruce, N1RX

-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Servies [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:22 PM
To: Bruce Beford
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA 1920x1080

Hi,

I would suggest checking your monitors settings to make sure it is not
in a "full" compatibility mode (the names seem to change.  It might be
different for your monitor).  That is, the monitor can expand a 4x3
image to fit the 16x9 HD image vertically and thus chop off parts of
the image on the sides and eliminate the "black bar" problem.

Just an idea,

73, Byron N6NUL

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Bruce Beford
<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I installed the P3SVGA board in my unit yesterday. On mine, it also does
not
> display properly in 1920x1080. I have an Acer H243H monitor. It natively
> supports "Full HD", 1920x1080p. When I set the P3 SVGA output to
1920x1080,
> the monitor confirms that it has switched to that resolution. However, the
> P3 image appears to extend off the right of the screen. That is to say,
the
> full span to the right is not displayed.

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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

radiobuf
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Hi Bruce, I have the same problem with my monitor and its brand new 1080P HD. I am also having to use the 1440 x 900.
So I guess this will have to do until they update the software.
Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Beford" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:09:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA 1920x1080


I installed the P3SVGA board in my unit yesterday. On mine, it also does not
display properly in 1920x1080. I have an Acer H243H monitor. It natively
supports "Full HD", 1920x1080p. When I set the P3 SVGA output to 1920x1080,
the monitor confirms that it has switched to that resolution. However, the
P3 image appears to extend off the right of the screen. That is to say, the
full span to the right is not displayed. The vertical span is fine. There
also appear to be small white dots moving horizontally through the spectrum
portion of the display, as if the display is "wrapping" somehow. (This is no
doubt an inaccurate description, but the best I can do. I have tried
reloading all firmware (1.12) and FPGA files to no effect.

Note that the monitor displays my PCs output at 1920x1080 using the DVI
(rather than VGA) input with no problems, so I know the monitor is capable.

For now, I am running at 1440x900 from the P3 with no problems.

73,
Bruce, N1RX

> 1080 overflows my 1080P monitor also. <snip>
> Rick
> K6LE



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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

Guy, K2AV
Last time I had a problem like that, it was the monitor, and it needed
to "calibrate" or something like that.  It was one of the monitor menu
items.  Ran whatever that was on the monitor and all was cool.     73,
Guy.

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM,  <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Bruce, I have the same problem with my monitor and its brand new 1080P HD. I am also having to use the 1440 x 900.
> So I guess this will have to do until they update the software.
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Beford" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:09:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA 1920x1080
>
>
> I installed the P3SVGA board in my unit yesterday. On mine, it also does not
> display properly in 1920x1080. I have an Acer H243H monitor. It natively
> supports "Full HD", 1920x1080p. When I set the P3 SVGA output to 1920x1080,
> the monitor confirms that it has switched to that resolution. However, the
> P3 image appears to extend off the right of the screen. That is to say, the
> full span to the right is not displayed. The vertical span is fine. There
> also appear to be small white dots moving horizontally through the spectrum
> portion of the display, as if the display is "wrapping" somehow. (This is no
> doubt an inaccurate description, but the best I can do. I have tried
> reloading all firmware (1.12) and FPGA files to no effect.
>
> Note that the monitor displays my PCs output at 1920x1080 using the DVI
> (rather than VGA) input with no problems, so I know the monitor is capable.
>
> For now, I am running at 1440x900 from the P3 with no problems.
>
> 73,
> Bruce, N1RX
>
>> 1080 overflows my 1080P monitor also. <snip>
>> Rick
>> K6LE
>
>
>
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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

Bruce Beford-2
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I have been unable to get my P3SVGA working at full resolution (1920x1080)
on my Acer H243H monitor. For now, I am running at 1440x900.

The Acer H243H monitor does support 1920x1080, from both the DVI and SVGA
inputs. I have used my HP dv7 laptop to drive the SVGA input at 1920x1080.
It displays properly, and the monitor reports the following:
1920x1080 H: 67 KHz V: 60 Hz

When I try to use the P3SVGA at the same resolution, the display appears to
extend off the right side of the monitor, showing an incomplete spectrum.
The monitor reports:
1920x1080 H: 66 KHz V: 58 Hz

So, this monitor will work at 1920x1080 with one source, but not the P3SVGA
at this (odd) scan rate(?) Hopefully, this can be resolved with an FPGA file
update.

I would like to hear from other P3SVGA users who are successfully using
1920x1080 resolution. I would like to know the monitor make/model, and what
the monitor reports for horizontal and vertical scan rates. This is usually
accessible from the monitor's menu.

73,
Bruce, N1RX


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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

Mike K2MK
Hi Bruce,

Although not a direct answer to your question I would like to indicate that on my 17" monitor I have noted in the monitor information box that the P3SVGA is operating at 1280x1024@58Hz and the monitor indicates that optimum is 1280x1024@60Hz. (It only reports a single scan rate). I can also report that I am not experiencing any reduction in overall size. The display width on the monitor is identical to the display width on the P3. My monitor is a Dell 1702FP.

73,
Mike K2MK

Bruce Beford-2 wrote
I have been unable to get my P3SVGA working at full resolution (1920x1080)
on my Acer H243H monitor. For now, I am running at 1440x900.

The Acer H243H monitor does support 1920x1080, from both the DVI and SVGA
inputs. I have used my HP dv7 laptop to drive the SVGA input at 1920x1080.
It displays properly, and the monitor reports the following:
1920x1080 H: 67 KHz V: 60 Hz

When I try to use the P3SVGA at the same resolution, the display appears to
extend off the right side of the monitor, showing an incomplete spectrum.
The monitor reports:
1920x1080 H: 66 KHz V: 58 Hz

So, this monitor will work at 1920x1080 with one source, but not the P3SVGA
at this (odd) scan rate(?) Hopefully, this can be resolved with an FPGA file
update.

I would like to hear from other P3SVGA users who are successfully using
1920x1080 resolution. I would like to know the monitor make/model, and what
the monitor reports for horizontal and vertical scan rates. This is usually
accessible from the monitor's menu.

73,
Bruce, N1RX
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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

tomb18
I just noticed this thread.  I started another with exactly the same problem...1920x1080x58 extends off the right of the screen at least by 3 or 4 inches.
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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

Paul Saffren N6HZ
We're investigating this problem with the SVGA on some customers' monitors in the 1920x1080 resolution.  For example my Acer P236H monitor has no problem syncing to the SVGA's video signal.   We'll let you know as soon as we have a solution.

73,


Paul
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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

AB3EN
Same issues with a Samsung S22A100N monitor, 1280 x 1024 works fine.

Dan AB3EN
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Re: P3SVGA 1920x1080

Bob - W6OPO
My P3 SVGA adapter is displaying correctly at 1920x1080 on my HP w2338h monitor. 73, Bob - W6OPO