Re: PC Scope
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My concern, if I have read the spec correctly, is the 40M sample/sec.
I assume that is the max rate (ie not 2x 40Ms in dual mode) because the usual aim is to make the spec look good! So, even in single channel mode, that is a display bandwith a bit under 20MHz. Not entirely surprised, very fast sampling costs. Also note it is 8 bit. Fine in scope mode but if planning to use an FFT and consider spectrum analysis, 8 bits is not that high a dynamic range. A very careful 'what do I want this for' is appropriate. Regards 73 Alan G0HIQ --- On Sat, 13/9/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: Message: 26 Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:05:55 +1000 From: "Mike Walkington" <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] OT - PC Oscilliscope Performance All, Just found this PC based oscilloscope http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS310/ and wonder what you think of it. Yes you are limited by needing a PC, but the waveform generator, spectrum analyser and logic analyser functionality seem to be most versatile. Mike VK1KCK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It is limited but probably perfectly adequate for many amateur radio tasks. I like the idea of an Ethernet version and also the USB.
competition - For £1500 you can buy a Tek TDS2024B digital scope from Farnell in the UK. These are good value for money scopes. For £600 you can get a basic TDS1001B which could satisfy most people. The bitscope is about half as much, $600, plus tax. If price is a major factor and you can import it to VK easily it looks a good deal. Mike
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In reply to this post by alan alan
It's true that with a 40 msps sample rate you can only view NON-REPETITIVE
signals up to 20 MHz bandwidth. For a repetitive waveform, the oscilloscope can combine multiple sweeps. Assuming each sweep samples at a different time offset in the waveform, the additional samples occur in between the original samples, resulting in a much higher effective sample rate. I Have an HP54600 digital oscilloscope that does just that. The bandwidth is 100 MHz but the sample rate (each channel) is only 20 MHz. It works just fine on repetitive signals up to 100 MHz, but for single-shot events the bandwidth must be less than 10 MHz. I find that nearly all the signals I want to look at, both digital and analog, are repetitive. Regarding the 8-bit analog-digital converter (ADC), remember that the 8 x 6 = 48 dB dynamic range is for the entire bandwidth, single-shot. For slow sweeps, you are only seeing a much smaller bandwidth, so the effective noise is lower. That's because each display point is actually an average of many ADC samples. When doing an FFT, each display point is only a small fraction of the total bandwidth, so the dynamic range is much greater than 48 dB with an 8-bit ADC. By the way, I really like the HP54600 because it is a true digital oscilloscope with a user interface that looks and feels just like an analog scope. There is a separate front-panel control for each major feature so you don't have to keep diving deep into a menu tree to make it do what you want. Al N1AL > My concern, if I have read the spec correctly, is the 40M sample/sec. > > I assume that is the max rate (ie not 2x 40Ms in dual mode) because the > usual aim is to make the spec look good! > > So, even in single channel mode, that is a display bandwith a bit under > 20MHz. Not entirely surprised, very fast sampling costs. > > Also note it is 8 bit. Fine in scope mode but if planning to use an FFT > and consider spectrum analysis, 8 bits is not that high a dynamic range. > > A very careful 'what do I want this for' is appropriate. > > Regards 73 Alan G0HIQ > > --- On Sat, 13/9/08, [hidden email] > <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Message: 26 > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:05:55 +1000 > From: "Mike Walkington" <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] OT - PC Oscilliscope Performance > > All, > Just found this PC based oscilloscope > http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS310/ > and wonder what you think of it. Yes you are limited by needing a PC, but > the waveform generator, spectrum analyser and logic analyser > functionality > seem to be most versatile. > Mike > VK1KCK > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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