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wayne burdick

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

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Way cool, Mike! I'll be giving K3iConnect a try.

Are you also looking at streaming audio directly through your app so
that Airfoil is not needed?

Wayne
N6KR

On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Downs wrote:

> I have two apps in the Apple App Store that allow you to remotely
> control your K3 using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. These apps
> are free as I want to encourage those who are interested to try them
> out and provide me feedback on any bugs discovered and enhancements
> desired.
>
> The apps use two different approaches to communicate with the K3
> from your iDevice. K3iConnect establishes an ad hoc network with a
> wifi serial adapter that fits in the RS232 port on the K3. Thus, no
> PC/Mac or cables are required and the K3 can be remotely controlled
> from anywhere within 30+ feet of the radio.
>
> K3iNetwork uses your local WiFi network and PC/Mac to communicate
> with the K3. In this case you need to have your K3 tethered to your
> PC or Mac via an RS232 cable. The advantage here is that sound from
> the K3 line out can be streamed to the iDevice with a third party
> app such as Airfoil.
>
> Both apps will work with the P3.
>
> I have used these apps to carry on CW and data QSOs with other
> amateurs. I think they are an exciting addition to the Elecraft
> Mojo, but they also need the benefit of users ideas on how to make
> them better. Also, maybe other iDevice or Android developers will be
> inspired to develop their own apps to add even more capabilities.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mike, ks7d

Mike KS7D

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

Yes, adding streaming audio to the app is a goal down the road if there is enough user interest in these apps.

Mike, ks7d
EL87uu
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Way cool, Mike! I'll be giving K3iConnect a try.
>
> Are you also looking at streaming audio directly through your app so
> that Airfoil is not needed?
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Downs wrote:
>
>> I have two apps in the Apple App Store that allow you to remotely
>> control your K3 using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. These apps
>> are free as I want to encourage those who are interested to try them
>> out and provide me feedback on any bugs discovered and enhancements
>> desired.
>>
>> The apps use two different approaches to communicate with the K3
>> from your iDevice. K3iConnect establishes an ad hoc network with a
>> wifi serial adapter that fits in the RS232 port on the K3. Thus, no
>> PC/Mac or cables are required and the K3 can be remotely controlled
>> from anywhere within 30+ feet of the radio.
>>
>> K3iNetwork uses your local WiFi network and PC/Mac to communicate
>> with the K3. In this case you need to have your K3 tethered to your
>> PC or Mac via an RS232 cable. The advantage here is that sound from
>> the K3 line out can be streamed to the iDevice with a third party
>> app such as Airfoil.
>>
>> Both apps will work with the P3.
>>
>> I have used these apps to carry on CW and data QSOs with other
>> amateurs. I think they are an exciting addition to the Elecraft
>> Mojo, but they also need the benefit of users ideas on how to make
>> them better. Also, maybe other iDevice or Android developers will be
>> inspired to develop their own apps to add even more capabilities.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> Mike, ks7d
>
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wlbrooks

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

Mike,

Wow. Steve Jobs would have been proud. Just pointed out to the XYL I can sit
in the den
with the ballgame on, IPad in hand and work a little RTTY.

This is just cool.

Thanks, Mike.

Bill, KE5OG

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Mike KS7D <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, adding streaming audio to the app is a goal down the road if there is
> enough user interest in these apps.
>
> Mike, ks7d
> EL87uu
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Way cool, Mike! I'll be giving K3iConnect a try.
> >
> > Are you also looking at streaming audio directly through your app so
> > that Airfoil is not needed?
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> > On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Downs wrote:
> >
> >> I have two apps in the Apple App Store that allow you to remotely
> >> control your K3 using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. These apps
> >> are free as I want to encourage those who are interested to try them
> >> out and provide me feedback on any bugs discovered and enhancements
> >> desired.
> >>
> >> The apps use two different approaches to communicate with the K3
> >> from your iDevice. K3iConnect establishes an ad hoc network with a
> >> wifi serial adapter that fits in the RS232 port on the K3. Thus, no
> >> PC/Mac or cables are required and the K3 can be remotely controlled
> >> from anywhere within 30+ feet of the radio.
> >>
> >> K3iNetwork uses your local WiFi network and PC/Mac to communicate
> >> with the K3. In this case you need to have your K3 tethered to your
> >> PC or Mac via an RS232 cable. The advantage here is that sound from
> >> the K3 line out can be streamed to the iDevice with a third party
> >> app such as Airfoil.
> >>
> >> Both apps will work with the P3.
> >>
> >> I have used these apps to carry on CW and data QSOs with other
> >> amateurs. I think they are an exciting addition to the Elecraft
> >> Mojo, but they also need the benefit of users ideas on how to make
> >> them better. Also, maybe other iDevice or Android developers will be
> >> inspired to develop their own apps to add even more capabilities.
> >>
> >> Enjoy!
> >>
> >> Mike, ks7d
> >
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KD3RF

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

In reply to this post by Mike KS7D

Very slick iPad app. Thanks.

This can also be done by the non-Apple crowd in the PC world using MSN Messenger and a public ILS server (or the old mSN Connect) or other desktop sharing utility like adobe connect to share desktop control between 2 PCs.

The shack PC needs to be left turned on and connected to the K3 and running an app like Ham Radio Deluxe.

Just share desktops between the 2 machines (with control enabled) and you can run any keyboard mode.

Nowhere near as elegant a solution, but something I was doing 4 or 5 years ago in my pre-K3 days.

John K9UWA-2

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

Can anyone who is running this setup on SSB tell me exactly what cabling
and settings you have for the MIC and AUDIO OUT on the K3 radio back in
the shack On the Shack Computer?

I have been running my K3 + Alpha87A for the last two winters from my
Laptop in Florida and the Shack and Home computer in Indiana. Works
great on CW but on SSB all hookups have created Ack Ack Ack on and off
of the VOX curcuitry or else don't produce any audio to the MIC of the radio.
Tried every antivox and mic gain setting I could find. Has to be some
problem with the way I am cabling it all up?

Runnng Ham Radio Deluxe on the shack computer and link between the
computers is a VPN for remoting the desktop plus MS Portrait for the audio
back and forth.

thanks
John k9uwa

> Very slick iPad app. Thanks.
>
> This can also be done by the non-Apple crowd in the PC world using MSN
> Messenger and a public ILS server (or the old mSN Connect) or other desktop
> sharing utility like adobe connect to share desktop control between 2 PCs.
>
> The shack PC needs to be left turned on and connected to the K3 and running an
> app like Ham Radio Deluxe.
>
> Just share desktops between the 2 machines (with control enabled) and you
> can run any keyboard mode.
>
> Nowhere near as elegant a solution, but something I was doing 4 or 5 years
> ago in my pre-K3 days.
>

John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF
Antique Radio Restorations
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Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

In reply to this post by wlbrooks

Hi Mike
Just having had my first experience with K3/iPhone - and I am thrilled! Had my first CW QSO with it - at speed 20 wpm which is at the limit of my typing capabilities on the small iPhone screen (a mix of letters and numbers as we have in our calls is particularly cumbersome on the iPhone kybrd!). It is not a solution you would like to use for rag chewing - but it makes it feasible to check in on the CW frequencies and say hello to your friends from time to time. I think the included macros will make the programme useful for just about everyone having each their preferred macros for commands not found on the screen elsewhere (So far I needed it for AF level, sidetone level, selecting LSB/USB and for ATU activation).

I am a 100% CW opr, but never the less, why is it that there is no button, so i need to send a K3 command in order to select LSB or USB?

It's a great new use of the iPhone! For the audio I use Skype which works OK, but it is not best suited for CW.
73 and again thanks for a nice piece of SW Mike

Poul-Erik OZ4UN

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Bill Brooks
Sendt: 7. oktober 2011 04:41
Til: Mike KS7D
Cc: <[hidden email]> Reflector
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

Mike,

Wow. Steve Jobs would have been proud. Just pointed out to the XYL I can sit in the den with the ballgame on, IPad in hand and work a little RTTY.

This is just cool.

Thanks, Mike.

Bill, KE5OG

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Mike KS7D <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, adding streaming audio to the app is a goal down the road if
> there is enough user interest in these apps.
>
> Mike, ks7d
> EL87uu
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Way cool, Mike! I'll be giving K3iConnect a try.
> >
> > Are you also looking at streaming audio directly through your app so
> > that Airfoil is not needed?
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> > On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Downs wrote:
> >
> >> I have two apps in the Apple App Store that allow you to remotely
> >> control your K3 using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. These apps
> >> are free as I want to encourage those who are interested to try
> >> them out and provide me feedback on any bugs discovered and
> >> enhancements desired.
> >>
> >> The apps use two different approaches to communicate with the K3
> >> from your iDevice. K3iConnect establishes an ad hoc network with a
> >> wifi serial adapter that fits in the RS232 port on the K3. Thus, no
> >> PC/Mac or cables are required and the K3 can be remotely controlled
> >> from anywhere within 30+ feet of the radio.
> >>
> >> K3iNetwork uses your local WiFi network and PC/Mac to communicate
> >> with the K3. In this case you need to have your K3 tethered to your
> >> PC or Mac via an RS232 cable. The advantage here is that sound from
> >> the K3 line out can be streamed to the iDevice with a third party
> >> app such as Airfoil.
> >>
> >> Both apps will work with the P3.
> >>
> >> I have used these apps to carry on CW and data QSOs with other
> >> amateurs. I think they are an exciting addition to the Elecraft
> >> Mojo, but they also need the benefit of users ideas on how to make
> >> them better. Also, maybe other iDevice or Android developers will
> >> be inspired to develop their own apps to add even more capabilities.
> >>
> >> Enjoy!
> >>
> >> Mike, ks7d
> >
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Mike KS7D

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

Thank you Poul. I am happy to hear you find the program useful. I didn't add USB or LSB buttons because the app is designed for CW and data users. Also space is limited on the small iPhone screen.

You may want to create some memories that hold your call sign and other frequently transmitted text. That way you can avoid using the iPhone keyboard as much.

I still need to work on audio. Maybe incorporating it into the app would be a better solution than Skype. I will be looking into this.

Mike, ks7d
EL87uu
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Mike
> Just having had my first experience with K3/iPhone - and I am thrilled! Had my first CW QSO with it - at speed 20 wpm which is at the limit of my typing capabilities on the small iPhone screen (a mix of letters and numbers as we have in our calls is particularly cumbersome on the iPhone kybrd!). It is not a solution you would like to use for rag chewing - but it makes it feasible to check in on the CW frequencies and say hello to your friends from time to time. I think the included macros will make the programme useful for just about everyone having each their preferred macros for commands not found on the screen elsewhere (So far I needed it for AF level, sidetone level, selecting LSB/USB and for ATU activation).
>
> I am a 100% CW opr, but never the less, why is it that there is no button, so i need to send a K3 command in order to select LSB or USB?
>
> It's a great new use of the iPhone! For the audio I use Skype which works OK, but it is not best suited for CW.
> 73 and again thanks for a nice piece of SW Mike
>
> Poul-Erik OZ4UN
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Bill Brooks
> Sendt: 7. oktober 2011 04:41
> Til: Mike KS7D
> Cc: <[hidden email]> Reflector
> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice
>
> Mike,
>
> Wow. Steve Jobs would have been proud. Just pointed out to the XYL I can sit in the den with the ballgame on, IPad in hand and work a little RTTY.
>
> This is just cool.
>
> Thanks, Mike.
>
> Bill, KE5OG
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Mike KS7D <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, adding streaming audio to the app is a goal down the road if
>> there is enough user interest in these apps.
>>
>> Mike, ks7d
>> EL87uu
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Way cool, Mike! I'll be giving K3iConnect a try.
>>>
>>> Are you also looking at streaming audio directly through your app so
>>> that Airfoil is not needed?
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Downs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have two apps in the Apple App Store that allow you to remotely
>>>> control your K3 using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. These apps
>>>> are free as I want to encourage those who are interested to try
>>>> them out and provide me feedback on any bugs discovered and
>>>> enhancements desired.
>>>>
>>>> The apps use two different approaches to communicate with the K3
>>>> from your iDevice. K3iConnect establishes an ad hoc network with a
>>>> wifi serial adapter that fits in the RS232 port on the K3. Thus, no
>>>> PC/Mac or cables are required and the K3 can be remotely controlled
>>>> from anywhere within 30+ feet of the radio.
>>>>
>>>> K3iNetwork uses your local WiFi network and PC/Mac to communicate
>>>> with the K3. In this case you need to have your K3 tethered to your
>>>> PC or Mac via an RS232 cable. The advantage here is that sound from
>>>> the K3 line out can be streamed to the iDevice with a third party
>>>> app such as Airfoil.
>>>>
>>>> Both apps will work with the P3.
>>>>
>>>> I have used these apps to carry on CW and data QSOs with other
>>>> amateurs. I think they are an exciting addition to the Elecraft
>>>> Mojo, but they also need the benefit of users ideas on how to make
>>>> them better. Also, maybe other iDevice or Android developers will
>>>> be inspired to develop their own apps to add even more capabilities.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>> Mike, ks7d
>>>
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Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

OK about USB and LSB - who cares about phone anyway :-)
I have been playing with it a while and am amazed how well it works.

I have connected from my home network and from the outside, using the IP address.
I do something similar when connecting e.g. HRD from the outside.
I had an account on DynDNS some time ago so I didnt have to worry about my dynamic IP address, but that service which was free has now stopped.
If I use DynDNS or another similar service, can I then enter an URL like oz4un.dyndns.org (which was the one I used to have)as IP address?

The selected frequency steps of 1, 10 and 1000 Hz may be OK for some.
I would prefer 10, 100 and 1000 if only three choices are available.
Or maybe the "Fine" knob could be changing between the two sets?

Again - my respect for a fine piece of SW!

Poul-Erik
OZ4UN

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Mike KS7D
Sendt: 28. oktober 2011 00:57
Til: Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

Thank you Poul. I am happy to hear you find the program useful. I didn't add USB or LSB buttons because the app is designed for CW and data users. Also space is limited on the small iPhone screen.

You may want to create some memories that hold your call sign and other frequently transmitted text. That way you can avoid using the iPhone keyboard as much.

I still need to work on audio. Maybe incorporating it into the app would be a better solution than Skype. I will be looking into this.

Mike, ks7d
EL87uu
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Mike
> Just having had my first experience with K3/iPhone - and I am thrilled! Had my first CW QSO with it - at speed 20 wpm which is at the limit of my typing capabilities on the small iPhone screen (a mix of letters and numbers as we have in our calls is particularly cumbersome on the iPhone kybrd!). It is not a solution you would like to use for rag chewing - but it makes it feasible to check in on the CW frequencies and say hello to your friends from time to time. I think the included macros will make the programme useful for just about everyone having each their preferred macros for commands not found on the screen elsewhere (So far I needed it for AF level, sidetone level, selecting LSB/USB and for ATU activation).
>
> I am a 100% CW opr, but never the less, why is it that there is no button, so i need to send a K3 command in order to select LSB or USB?
>
> It's a great new use of the iPhone! For the audio I use Skype which works OK, but it is not best suited for CW.
> 73 and again thanks for a nice piece of SW Mike
>
> Poul-Erik OZ4UN
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Bill Brooks
> Sendt: 7. oktober 2011 04:41
> Til: Mike KS7D
> Cc: <[hidden email]> Reflector
> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice
>
> Mike,
>
> Wow. Steve Jobs would have been proud. Just pointed out to the XYL I can sit in the den with the ballgame on, IPad in hand and work a little RTTY.
>
> This is just cool.
>
> Thanks, Mike.
>
> Bill, KE5OG
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Mike KS7D <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, adding streaming audio to the app is a goal down the road if
>> there is enough user interest in these apps.
>>
>> Mike, ks7d
>> EL87uu
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Way cool, Mike! I'll be giving K3iConnect a try.
>>>
>>> Are you also looking at streaming audio directly through your app so
>>> that Airfoil is not needed?
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Downs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have two apps in the Apple App Store that allow you to remotely
>>>> control your K3 using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. These apps
>>>> are free as I want to encourage those who are interested to try
>>>> them out and provide me feedback on any bugs discovered and
>>>> enhancements desired.
>>>>
>>>> The apps use two different approaches to communicate with the K3
>>>> from your iDevice. K3iConnect establishes an ad hoc network with a
>>>> wifi serial adapter that fits in the RS232 port on the K3. Thus, no
>>>> PC/Mac or cables are required and the K3 can be remotely controlled
>>>> from anywhere within 30+ feet of the radio.
>>>>
>>>> K3iNetwork uses your local WiFi network and PC/Mac to communicate
>>>> with the K3. In this case you need to have your K3 tethered to your
>>>> PC or Mac via an RS232 cable. The advantage here is that sound from
>>>> the K3 line out can be streamed to the iDevice with a third party
>>>> app such as Airfoil.
>>>>
>>>> Both apps will work with the P3.
>>>>
>>>> I have used these apps to carry on CW and data QSOs with other
>>>> amateurs. I think they are an exciting addition to the Elecraft
>>>> Mojo, but they also need the benefit of users ideas on how to make
>>>> them better. Also, maybe other iDevice or Android developers will
>>>> be inspired to develop their own apps to add even more capabilities.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>> Mike, ks7d
>>>
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Mike KS7D

Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

I was looking at the More Controls user interface and there is room to add LSB and USB buttons. I can also change the frequency up down buttons to 10, 100, and 1000. I would be happy to make these changes. I am looking for feedback from users on how I can make this app more useful. Please keep the feedback coming. Thanks.

Mike, ks7d
EL87uu
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) <[hidden email]> wrote:

> OK about USB and LSB - who cares about phone anyway :-)
> I have been playing with it a while and am amazed how well it works.
>
> I have connected from my home network and from the outside, using the IP address.
> I do something similar when connecting e.g. HRD from the outside.
> I had an account on DynDNS some time ago so I didnt have to worry about my dynamic IP address, but that service which was free has now stopped.
> If I use DynDNS or another similar service, can I then enter an URL like oz4un.dyndns.org (which was the one I used to have)as IP address?
>
> The selected frequency steps of 1, 10 and 1000 Hz may be OK for some.
> I would prefer 10, 100 and 1000 if only three choices are available.
> Or maybe the "Fine" knob could be changing between the two sets?
>
> Again - my respect for a fine piece of SW!
>
> Poul-Erik
> OZ4UN
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Mike KS7D
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2011 00:57
> Til: Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)
> Cc: <[hidden email]>
> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice
>
> Thank you Poul. I am happy to hear you find the program useful. I didn't add USB or LSB buttons because the app is designed for CW and data users. Also space is limited on the small iPhone screen.
>
> You may want to create some memories that hold your call sign and other frequently transmitted text. That way you can avoid using the iPhone keyboard as much.
>
> I still need to work on audio. Maybe incorporating it into the app would be a better solution than Skype. I will be looking into this.
>
> Mike, ks7d
> EL87uu
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike
>> Just having had my first experience with K3/iPhone - and I am thrilled! Had my first CW QSO with it - at speed 20 wpm which is at the limit of my typing capabilities on the small iPhone screen (a mix of letters and numbers as we have in our calls is particularly cumbersome on the iPhone kybrd!). It is not a solution you would like to use for rag chewing - but it makes it feasible to check in on the CW frequencies and say hello to your friends from time to time. I think the included macros will make the programme useful for just about everyone having each their preferred macros for commands not found on the screen elsewhere (So far I needed it for AF level, sidetone level, selecting LSB/USB and for ATU activation).
>>
>> I am a 100% CW opr, but never the less, why is it that there is no button, so i need to send a K3 command in order to select LSB or USB?
>>
>> It's a great new use of the iPhone! For the audio I use Skype which works OK, but it is not best suited for CW.
>> 73 and again thanks for a nice piece of SW Mike
>>
>> Poul-Erik OZ4UN
>>
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Bill Brooks
>> Sendt: 7. oktober 2011 04:41
>> Til: Mike KS7D
>> Cc: <[hidden email]> Reflector
>> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Wow. Steve Jobs would have been proud. Just pointed out to the XYL I can sit in the den with the ballgame on, IPad in hand and work a little RTTY.
>>
>> This is just cool.
>>
>> Thanks, Mike.
>>
>> Bill, KE5OG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Mike KS7D <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, adding streaming audio to the app is a goal down the road if
>>> there is enough user interest in these apps.
>>>
>>> Mike, ks7d
>>> EL87uu
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Way cool, Mike! I'll be giving K3iConnect a try.
>>>>
>>>> Are you also looking at streaming audio directly through your app so
>>>> that Airfoil is not needed?
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Downs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have two apps in the Apple App Store that allow you to remotely
>>>>> control your K3 using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. These apps
>>>>> are free as I want to encourage those who are interested to try
>>>>> them out and provide me feedback on any bugs discovered and
>>>>> enhancements desired.
>>>>>
>>>>> The apps use two different approaches to communicate with the K3
>>>>> from your iDevice. K3iConnect establishes an ad hoc network with a
>>>>> wifi serial adapter that fits in the RS232 port on the K3. Thus, no
>>>>> PC/Mac or cables are required and the K3 can be remotely controlled
>>>>> from anywhere within 30+ feet of the radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> K3iNetwork uses your local WiFi network and PC/Mac to communicate
>>>>> with the K3. In this case you need to have your K3 tethered to your
>>>>> PC or Mac via an RS232 cable. The advantage here is that sound from
>>>>> the K3 line out can be streamed to the iDevice with a third party
>>>>> app such as Airfoil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both apps will work with the P3.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used these apps to carry on CW and data QSOs with other
>>>>> amateurs. I think they are an exciting addition to the Elecraft
>>>>> Mojo, but they also need the benefit of users ideas on how to make
>>>>> them better. Also, maybe other iDevice or Android developers will
>>>>> be inspired to develop their own apps to add even more capabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike, ks7d
>>>>
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Re: Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

Hi Mike
The frequency buttons are the most important i think. Maybe for digi modes they need 1 Hz steps, and it also necessary for using APF, but I use 100 Hz steps a lot more than 1 Hz.

I have used macros UP8 and DN8 and discovered that the program stops after using these macros. Also use AG macro to adjust audio gain and KS for CW speed control - and also these make the program stop as far as I remember.

By the way, can I link two or more macro's in one (e.g. "ks020;ag050")?

73 from
Poul-Erik
OZ4UN

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Mike KS7D
Sendt: 28. oktober 2011 21:42
Til: Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice

I was looking at the More Controls user interface and there is room to add LSB and USB buttons. I can also change the frequency up down buttons to 10, 100, and 1000. I would be happy to make these changes. I am looking for feedback from users on how I can make this app more useful. Please keep the feedback coming. Thanks.

Mike, ks7d
EL87uu
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) <[hidden email]> wrote:

> OK about USB and LSB - who cares about phone anyway :-) I have been
> playing with it a while and am amazed how well it works.
>
> I have connected from my home network and from the outside, using the IP address.
> I do something similar when connecting e.g. HRD from the outside.
> I had an account on DynDNS some time ago so I didnt have to worry about my dynamic IP address, but that service which was free has now stopped.
> If I use DynDNS or another similar service, can I then enter an URL like oz4un.dyndns.org (which was the one I used to have)as IP address?
>
> The selected frequency steps of 1, 10 and 1000 Hz may be OK for some.
> I would prefer 10, 100 and 1000 if only three choices are available.
> Or maybe the "Fine" knob could be changing between the two sets?
>
> Again - my respect for a fine piece of SW!
>
> Poul-Erik
> OZ4UN
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Mike KS7D
> Sendt: 28. oktober 2011 00:57
> Til: Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)
> Cc: <[hidden email]>
> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice
>
> Thank you Poul. I am happy to hear you find the program useful. I didn't add USB or LSB buttons because the app is designed for CW and data users. Also space is limited on the small iPhone screen.
>
> You may want to create some memories that hold your call sign and other frequently transmitted text. That way you can avoid using the iPhone keyboard as much.
>
> I still need to work on audio. Maybe incorporating it into the app would be a better solution than Skype. I will be looking into this.
>
> Mike, ks7d
> EL87uu
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike
>> Just having had my first experience with K3/iPhone - and I am thrilled! Had my first CW QSO with it - at speed 20 wpm which is at the limit of my typing capabilities on the small iPhone screen (a mix of letters and numbers as we have in our calls is particularly cumbersome on the iPhone kybrd!). It is not a solution you would like to use for rag chewing - but it makes it feasible to check in on the CW frequencies and say hello to your friends from time to time. I think the included macros will make the programme useful for just about everyone having each their preferred macros for commands not found on the screen elsewhere (So far I needed it for AF level, sidetone level, selecting LSB/USB and for ATU activation).
>>
>> I am a 100% CW opr, but never the less, why is it that there is no button, so i need to send a K3 command in order to select LSB or USB?
>>
>> It's a great new use of the iPhone! For the audio I use Skype which works OK, but it is not best suited for CW.
>> 73 and again thanks for a nice piece of SW Mike
>>
>> Poul-Erik OZ4UN
>>
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Bill Brooks
>> Sendt: 7. oktober 2011 04:41
>> Til: Mike KS7D
>> Cc: <[hidden email]> Reflector
>> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Remote Control of K3 with iPhone/iDevice
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Wow. Steve Jobs would have been proud. Just pointed out to the XYL I can sit in the den with the ballgame on, IPad in hand and work a little RTTY.
>>
>> This is just cool.
>>
>> Thanks, Mike.
>>
>> Bill, KE5OG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Mike KS7D <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, adding streaming audio to the app is a goal down the road if
>>> there is enough user interest in these apps.
>>>
>>> Mike, ks7d
>>> EL87uu
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Way cool, Mike! I'll be giving K3iConnect a try.
>>>>
>>>> Are you also looking at streaming audio directly through your app
>>>> so that Airfoil is not needed?
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Michael Downs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have two apps in the Apple App Store that allow you to remotely
>>>>> control your K3 using your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. These apps
>>>>> are free as I want to encourage those who are interested to try
>>>>> them out and provide me feedback on any bugs discovered and
>>>>> enhancements desired.
>>>>>
>>>>> The apps use two different approaches to communicate with the K3
>>>>> from your iDevice. K3iConnect establishes an ad hoc network with a
>>>>> wifi serial adapter that fits in the RS232 port on the K3. Thus,
>>>>> no PC/Mac or cables are required and the K3 can be remotely
>>>>> controlled from anywhere within 30+ feet of the radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> K3iNetwork uses your local WiFi network and PC/Mac to communicate
>>>>> with the K3. In this case you need to have your K3 tethered to
>>>>> your PC or Mac via an RS232 cable. The advantage here is that
>>>>> sound from the K3 line out can be streamed to the iDevice with a
>>>>> third party app such as Airfoil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both apps will work with the P3.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have used these apps to carry on CW and data QSOs with other
>>>>> amateurs. I think they are an exciting addition to the Elecraft
>>>>> Mojo, but they also need the benefit of users ideas on how to make
>>>>> them better. Also, maybe other iDevice or Android developers will
>>>>> be inspired to develop their own apps to add even more capabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike, ks7d
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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