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Peter W2IRT

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

Hi all,
Just a quick note to thank everybody here for their suggestions and help. There were some things in the K3s that needed to be changed, but that still left some serious issues that were definitely related to DX Labs WinWarbler.

DX Labs works by storing app settings in the registry, and the registry settings for all related apps are stored in a “workspace.” Somehow the settings for WinWarbler had gotten corrupted. On a whim, I restored an old known-good workspace, changed the parameters to the new hardware configuration and after a couple of bumpy starts, everything worked fine. I saved a new workspace with these settings, and then I went back to the original profile, and it remained screwed up. Once again I shut everything down, loaded the new profile that I’d just created and it’s all good. The bad profile has now been deleted off the system and all is once again right.

I would definitely like to thank Barry, K3NDM for helping me out one-on-one, ironing out the needed K3s settings, and getting RTTY working in FLDIGI and N1MM (proving this was a DX Labs problem).

FOUR DAYS to get this done, but at least now, with very limited testing, I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the MicroKeyer-II in line—but without the extra cabling, risk of RF ingress, and multiple virtual COM ports.

Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs? I would like to have a second instance of MMTTY set up to receive the sub RX audio, with the primary using only the main VFO. I used to be able to accomplish this using left- and right-channels in the MMTTY setup, but that doesn’t seem to work using USB. Not a major issue now that FT8 Dxpedition Mode seems to be all the rage, but I would still like to have this functionality if possible.

- pjd

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
> Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final
> question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the
> main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical
> audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs?

Yes, the K3/KIO3B or K3S USB Audio CODEC behaves exactly like the K3
with analog Line In/Line Out. The USB Audio CODEC is essentially
"grafted on" to the Line In/Line Out. In fact "Speaker (USB AUDIO
CODEC)" is connected in parallel with the analog Line Out jack.

Please refer to the K3S Owners Manual and the K3S schematic package
on-line.

> I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the
> MicroKeyer-II in line

Not by a long shot ... you no longer have a hardware based FSK, a
K1EL WinKey keyer, support for multiple CAT connections (for syncing
an external SDR panadapter), the ability to mute the microphone when
playing an SSB voice file, access to dedicated CI-V and/or SteppIR
control channel, etc. While you may not have used all those features
you certainly do not have the same functionality as you had with the
microKEYER II.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

> Hi all,
> Just a quick note to thank everybody here for their suggestions and help. There were some things in the K3s that needed to be changed, but that still left some serious issues that were definitely related to DX Labs WinWarbler.
>
> DX Labs works by storing app settings in the registry, and the registry settings for all related apps are stored in a “workspace.” Somehow the settings for WinWarbler had gotten corrupted. On a whim, I restored an old known-good workspace, changed the parameters to the new hardware configuration and after a couple of bumpy starts, everything worked fine. I saved a new workspace with these settings, and then I went back to the original profile, and it remained screwed up. Once again I shut everything down, loaded the new profile that I’d just created and it’s all good. The bad profile has now been deleted off the system and all is once again right.
>
> I would definitely like to thank Barry, K3NDM for helping me out one-on-one, ironing out the needed K3s settings, and getting RTTY working in FLDIGI and N1MM (proving this was a DX Labs problem).
>
> FOUR DAYS to get this done, but at least now, with very limited testing, I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the MicroKeyer-II in line—but without the extra cabling, risk of RF ingress, and multiple virtual COM ports.
>
> Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs? I would like to have a second instance of MMTTY set up to receive the sub RX audio, with the primary using only the main VFO. I used to be able to accomplish this using left- and right-channels in the MMTTY setup, but that doesn’t seem to work using USB. Not a major issue now that FT8 Dxpedition Mode seems to be all the rage, but I would still like to have this functionality if possible.
>
>
>
> - pjd
>

Peter W2IRT

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

Yes, you're right, and I will miss the ability to have multiple CAT connections...that's a biggie and the ability to mute the mic on .wav playback as well. I should have said that I have (almost) all the functionality that I had before for the features that I use. At this point, I'm trying to simplify things for the next couple of months, get things working reliably, then introduce an SDRPlay, Skimmer, and Win4K3 after Dayton.

I do miss the Winkeyer's speed control knob, but I can get used to just using N1MM PageUp/Dn keyboard commands or the K3s's front panel control knob. I had a great run with the MK and MK-II over the years and yeah, there are a few things I'll miss, for sure, but the reduced complexity--both physical and software/PC related, and reduced potential for RF ingress are substantial positives as well.

- pjd

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:52 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
> Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final > question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the > main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical > audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs?

Yes, the K3/KIO3B or K3S USB Audio CODEC behaves exactly like the K3 with analog Line In/Line Out. The USB Audio CODEC is essentially "grafted on" to the Line In/Line Out. In fact "Speaker (USB AUDIO CODEC)" is connected in parallel with the analog Line Out jack.

Please refer to the K3S Owners Manual and the K3S schematic package on-line.

> I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the
> MicroKeyer-II in line

Not by a long shot ... you no longer have a hardware based FSK, a K1EL WinKey keyer, support for multiple CAT connections (for syncing an external SDR panadapter), the ability to mute the microphone when playing an SSB voice file, access to dedicated CI-V and/or SteppIR control channel, etc. While you may not have used all those features you certainly do not have the same functionality as you had with the microKEYER II.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

> Hi all,
> Just a quick note to thank everybody here for their suggestions and help.
> There were some things in the K3s that needed to be changed, but that
> still left some serious issues that were definitely related to DX Labs
> WinWarbler.
>
> DX Labs works by storing app settings in the registry, and the
> registry settings for all related apps are stored in a “workspace.”
> Somehow the settings for WinWarbler had gotten corrupted. On a whim, I
> restored an old known-good workspace, changed the parameters to the
> new hardware configuration and after a couple of bumpy starts, everything worked fine.
> I saved a new workspace with these settings, and then I went back to
> the original profile, and it remained screwed up. Once again I shut
> everything down, loaded the new profile that I’d just created and it’s
> all good. The bad profile has now been deleted off the system and all
> is once again right.
>
> I would definitely like to thank Barry, K3NDM for helping me out
> one-on-one, ironing out the needed K3s settings, and getting RTTY
> working in FLDIGI and N1MM (proving this was a DX Labs problem).
>
> FOUR DAYS to get this done, but at least now, with very limited
> testing, I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with
> the MicroKeyer-II in line—but without the extra cabling, risk of RF
> ingress, and multiple virtual COM ports.
>
> Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final
> question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the
> main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical
> audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs? I would like to have a
> second instance of MMTTY set up to receive the sub RX audio, with the
> primary using only the main VFO. I used to be able to accomplish this
> using left- and right-channels in the MMTTY setup, but that doesn’t
> seem to work using USB. Not a major issue now that FT8 Dxpedition Mode
> seems to be all the rage, but I would still like to have this functionality if possible.
>
>
>
> - pjd
>

Lovin' my K3S (S/N 10023)
73, Peter W2IRT

Dave wo2x

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

Pete,

YouCAN share the CAT connection from the K3S USB via a program called VSPE. Works very well.
Give me a call tomorrow to discuss.

Dave wo2x

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:00 PM
To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

Yes, you're right, and I will miss the ability to have multiple CAT connections...that's a biggie and the ability to mute the mic on .wav playback as well. I should have said that I have (almost) all the functionality that I had before for the features that I use. At this point, I'm trying to simplify things for the next couple of months, get things working reliably, then introduce an SDRPlay, Skimmer, and Win4K3 after Dayton.

I do miss the Winkeyer's speed control knob, but I can get used to just using N1MM PageUp/Dn keyboard commands or the K3s's front panel control knob. I had a great run with the MK and MK-II over the years and yeah, there are a few things I'll miss, for sure, but the reduced complexity--both physical and software/PC related, and reduced potential for RF ingress are substantial positives as well.

- pjd

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:52 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
> Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final > question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the > main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical > audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs?

Yes, the K3/KIO3B or K3S USB Audio CODEC behaves exactly like the K3 with analog Line In/Line Out. The USB Audio CODEC is essentially "grafted on" to the Line In/Line Out. In fact "Speaker (USB AUDIO CODEC)" is connected in parallel with the analog Line Out jack.

Please refer to the K3S Owners Manual and the K3S schematic package on-line.

> I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the
> MicroKeyer-II in line

Not by a long shot ... you no longer have a hardware based FSK, a K1EL WinKey keyer, support for multiple CAT connections (for syncing an external SDR panadapter), the ability to mute the microphone when playing an SSB voice file, access to dedicated CI-V and/or SteppIR control channel, etc. While you may not have used all those features you certainly do not have the same functionality as you had with the microKEYER II.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

> YouCAN share the CAT connection from the K3S USB via a program called
> VSPE. Works very well.

VSPE does not work well (if at all) with either N1MM Logger+ or DXLab
Suite Commander - particularly if the SDR or Omni-Rig is polling at
the same time as N1MM+ or Commander as both N1MM+ and Commander use
nearly 100% of the transceiver CAT bandwidth in order to provide the
fastest possible response (minimum lag).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2019-03-21 7:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Pete,
>
> YouCAN share the CAT connection from the K3S USB via a program called VSPE. Works very well.
> Give me a call tomorrow to discuss.
>
> Dave wo2x
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:00 PM
> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>
> Yes, you're right, and I will miss the ability to have multiple CAT connections...that's a biggie and the ability to mute the mic on .wav playback as well. I should have said that I have (almost) all the functionality that I had before for the features that I use. At this point, I'm trying to simplify things for the next couple of months, get things working reliably, then introduce an SDRPlay, Skimmer, and Win4K3 after Dayton.
>
> I do miss the Winkeyer's speed control knob, but I can get used to just using N1MM PageUp/Dn keyboard commands or the K3s's front panel control knob. I had a great run with the MK and MK-II over the years and yeah, there are a few things I'll miss, for sure, but the reduced complexity--both physical and software/PC related, and reduced potential for RF ingress are substantial positives as well.
>
> - pjd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:52 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>
> On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
> > Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final > question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the > main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical > audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs?
>
> Yes, the K3/KIO3B or K3S USB Audio CODEC behaves exactly like the K3 with analog Line In/Line Out. The USB Audio CODEC is essentially "grafted on" to the Line In/Line Out. In fact "Speaker (USB AUDIO CODEC)" is connected in parallel with the analog Line Out jack.
>
> Please refer to the K3S Owners Manual and the K3S schematic package on-line.
>
>> I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the
> > MicroKeyer-II in line
>
> Not by a long shot ... you no longer have a hardware based FSK, a K1EL WinKey keyer, support for multiple CAT connections (for syncing an external SDR panadapter), the ability to mute the microphone when playing an SSB voice file, access to dedicated CI-V and/or SteppIR control channel, etc. While you may not have used all those features you certainly do not have the same functionality as you had with the microKEYER II.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>

Dave wo2x

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

Ok, thanks Joe,

Dave wo2x

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 9:47 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> > YouCAN share the CAT connection from the K3S USB via a program called
> > VSPE. Works very well.
>
> VSPE does not work well (if at all) with either N1MM Logger+ or DXLab
> Suite Commander - particularly if the SDR or Omni-Rig is polling at
> the same time as N1MM+ or Commander as both N1MM+ and Commander use
> nearly 100% of the transceiver CAT bandwidth in order to provide the
> fastest possible response (minimum lag).
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>> On 2019-03-21 7:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Pete,
>> YouCAN share the CAT connection from the K3S USB via a program called VSPE. Works very well.
>> Give me a call tomorrow to discuss.
>> Dave wo2x
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:00 PM
>> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>> Yes, you're right, and I will miss the ability to have multiple CAT connections...that's a biggie and the ability to mute the mic on .wav playback as well. I should have said that I have (almost) all the functionality that I had before for the features that I use. At this point, I'm trying to simplify things for the next couple of months, get things working reliably, then introduce an SDRPlay, Skimmer, and Win4K3 after Dayton.
>> I do miss the Winkeyer's speed control knob, but I can get used to just using N1MM PageUp/Dn keyboard commands or the K3s's front panel control knob. I had a great run with the MK and MK-II over the years and yeah, there are a few things I'll miss, for sure, but the reduced complexity--both physical and software/PC related, and reduced potential for RF ingress are substantial positives as well.
>> - pjd
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:52 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>> On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
>> > Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final > question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the > main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical > audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs?
>> Yes, the K3/KIO3B or K3S USB Audio CODEC behaves exactly like the K3 with analog Line In/Line Out. The USB Audio CODEC is essentially "grafted on" to the Line In/Line Out. In fact "Speaker (USB AUDIO CODEC)" is connected in parallel with the analog Line Out jack.
>> Please refer to the K3S Owners Manual and the K3S schematic package on-line.
>>> I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the
>> > MicroKeyer-II in line
>> Not by a long shot ... you no longer have a hardware based FSK, a K1EL WinKey keyer, support for multiple CAT connections (for syncing an external SDR panadapter), the ability to mute the microphone when playing an SSB voice file, access to dedicated CI-V and/or SteppIR control channel, etc. While you may not have used all those features you certainly do not have the same functionality as you had with the microKEYER II.
>> 73,
>> ... Joe, W4TV
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Mark Musick

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

In reply to this post by Dave wo2x

Pete will be able to share the CAT connection when he gets Win4K3Suite.

Mark, WB9CIF

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 23:27
To: 'Peter Dougherty' <[hidden email]>; 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

Pete,

YouCAN share the CAT connection from the K3S USB via a program called VSPE. Works very well.
Give me a call tomorrow to discuss.

Dave wo2x

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:00 PM
To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

Yes, you're right, and I will miss the ability to have multiple CAT connections...that's a biggie and the ability to mute the mic on .wav playback as well. I should have said that I have (almost) all the functionality that I had before for the features that I use. At this point, I'm trying to simplify things for the next couple of months, get things working reliably, then introduce an SDRPlay, Skimmer, and Win4K3 after Dayton.

I do miss the Winkeyer's speed control knob, but I can get used to just using N1MM PageUp/Dn keyboard commands or the K3s's front panel control knob. I had a great run with the MK and MK-II over the years and yeah, there are a few things I'll miss, for sure, but the reduced complexity--both physical and software/PC related, and reduced potential for RF ingress are substantial positives as well.

- pjd

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:52 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
> Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final > question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the > main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical > audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs?

Yes, the K3/KIO3B or K3S USB Audio CODEC behaves exactly like the K3 with analog Line In/Line Out. The USB Audio CODEC is essentially "grafted on" to the Line In/Line Out. In fact "Speaker (USB AUDIO CODEC)" is connected in parallel with the analog Line Out jack.

Please refer to the K3S Owners Manual and the K3S schematic package on-line.

> I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the
> MicroKeyer-II in line

Not by a long shot ... you no longer have a hardware based FSK, a K1EL WinKey keyer, support for multiple CAT connections (for syncing an external SDR panadapter), the ability to mute the microphone when playing an SSB voice file, access to dedicated CI-V and/or SteppIR control channel, etc. While you may not have used all those features you certainly do not have the same functionality as you had with the microKEYER II.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:

Barry LaZar

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

He will also need com0com, a free port replicator that runs really well
with Win4K3. I have a half dozen virtual ports defined and have run with
as many as 4 at a time with no noticeable issues.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Mark Musick" <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>; "Peter Dougherty"
<[hidden email]>; "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]>;
"[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: 3/21/2019 10:04:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

>Pete will be able to share the CAT connection when he gets Win4K3Suite.
>
>Mark, WB9CIF
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of [hidden email]
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 23:27
>To: 'Peter Dougherty' <[hidden email]>; 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>
>Pete,
>
>YouCAN share the CAT connection from the K3S USB via a program called VSPE. Works very well.
>Give me a call tomorrow to discuss.
>
>Dave wo2x
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:00 PM
>To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>
>Yes, you're right, and I will miss the ability to have multiple CAT connections...that's a biggie and the ability to mute the mic on .wav playback as well. I should have said that I have (almost) all the functionality that I had before for the features that I use. At this point, I'm trying to simplify things for the next couple of months, get things working reliably, then introduce an SDRPlay, Skimmer, and Win4K3 after Dayton.
>
>I do miss the Winkeyer's speed control knob, but I can get used to just using N1MM PageUp/Dn keyboard commands or the K3s's front panel control knob. I had a great run with the MK and MK-II over the years and yeah, there are a few things I'll miss, for sure, but the reduced complexity--both physical and software/PC related, and reduced potential for RF ingress are substantial positives as well.
>
> - pjd
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:52 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>
>On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
> > Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final > question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the > main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical > audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs?
>
>Yes, the K3/KIO3B or K3S USB Audio CODEC behaves exactly like the K3 with analog Line In/Line Out. The USB Audio CODEC is essentially "grafted on" to the Line In/Line Out. In fact "Speaker (USB AUDIO CODEC)" is connected in parallel with the analog Line Out jack.
>
>Please refer to the K3S Owners Manual and the K3S schematic package on-line.
>
>> I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the
> > MicroKeyer-II in line
>
>Not by a long shot ... you no longer have a hardware based FSK, a K1EL WinKey keyer, support for multiple CAT connections (for syncing an external SDR panadapter), the ability to mute the microphone when playing an SSB voice file, access to dedicated CI-V and/or SteppIR control channel, etc. While you may not have used all those features you certainly do not have the same functionality as you had with the microKEYER II.
>
>73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Just a quick note to thank everybody here for their suggestions and help.
>> There were some things in the K3s that needed to be changed, but that
>> still left some serious issues that were definitely related to DX Labs
>> WinWarbler.
>>
>> DX Labs works by storing app settings in the registry, and the
>> registry settings for all related apps are stored in a “workspace.”
>> Somehow the settings for WinWarbler had gotten corrupted. On a whim, I
>> restored an old known-good workspace, changed the parameters to the
>> new hardware configuration and after a couple of bumpy starts, everything worked fine.
>> I saved a new workspace with these settings, and then I went back to
>> the original profile, and it remained screwed up. Once again I shut
>> everything down, loaded the new profile that I’d just created and it’s
>> all good. The bad profile has now been deleted off the system and all
>> is once again right.
>>
>> I would definitely like to thank Barry, K3NDM for helping me out
>> one-on-one, ironing out the needed K3s settings, and getting RTTY
>> working in FLDIGI and N1MM (proving this was a DX Labs problem).
>>
>> FOUR DAYS to get this done, but at least now, with very limited
>> testing, I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with
>> the MicroKeyer-II in line—but without the extra cabling, risk of RF
>> ingress, and multiple virtual COM ports.
>>
>> Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final
>> question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the
>> main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical
>> audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs? I would like to have a
>> second instance of MMTTY set up to receive the sub RX audio, with the
>> primary using only the main VFO. I used to be able to accomplish this
>> using left- and right-channels in the MMTTY setup, but that doesn’t
>> seem to work using USB. Not a major issue now that FT8 Dxpedition Mode
>> seems to be all the rage, but I would still like to have this functionality if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> - pjd
>>
>
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Peter W2IRT

Re: Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

For the moment, with all the new, recent configuration changes, I'm just going to keep things simple for the next two months, and ensure reliability across all active bands and modes, putting out any fires as they crop up.

When I'm satisfied that the system is working well, my next goal will be an SDRPlay, Win4K3, and connecting my Skimmer to the K3s. I expect more headaches in doing so, but I'm hoping the end result will be worth it. I didn't have great luck with an LP-PAN2 due to it's limited bandwidth and horrible birdie problem. I'm probably going to pull the trigger on all that stuff at Dayton.

- pjd

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Subject: Re[2]: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED

He will also need com0com, a free port replicator that runs really well with Win4K3. I have a half dozen virtual ports defined and have run with as many as 4 at a time with no noticeable issues.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

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Sent: 3/21/2019 10:04:33 PM
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>Pete will be able to share the CAT connection when he gets Win4K3Suite.
>
>Mark, WB9CIF
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [hidden email]
><[hidden email]> On Behalf Of [hidden email]
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 23:27
>To: 'Peter Dougherty' <[hidden email]>; 'Joe Subich, W4TV'
><[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>
>Pete,
>
>YouCAN share the CAT connection from the K3S USB via a program called VSPE. Works very well.
>Give me a call tomorrow to discuss.
>
>Dave wo2x
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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><[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:00 PM
>To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>
>Yes, you're right, and I will miss the ability to have multiple CAT connections...that's a biggie and the ability to mute the mic on .wav playback as well. I should have said that I have (almost) all the functionality that I had before for the features that I use. At this point, I'm trying to simplify things for the next couple of months, get things working reliably, then introduce an SDRPlay, Skimmer, and Win4K3 after Dayton.
>
>I do miss the Winkeyer's speed control knob, but I can get used to just using N1MM PageUp/Dn keyboard commands or the K3s's front panel control knob. I had a great run with the MK and MK-II over the years and yeah, there are a few things I'll miss, for sure, but the reduced complexity--both physical and software/PC related, and reduced potential for RF ingress are substantial positives as well.
>
> - pjd
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY--FIXED
>
>On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
> > Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One final > question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate out the > main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a physical > audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs?
>
>Yes, the K3/KIO3B or K3S USB Audio CODEC behaves exactly like the K3 with analog Line In/Line Out. The USB Audio CODEC is essentially "grafted on" to the Line In/Line Out. In fact "Speaker (USB AUDIO CODEC)" is connected in parallel with the analog Line Out jack.
>
>Please refer to the K3S Owners Manual and the K3S schematic package on-line.
>
>> I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with the
> > MicroKeyer-II in line
>
>Not by a long shot ... you no longer have a hardware based FSK, a K1EL WinKey keyer, support for multiple CAT connections (for syncing an external SDR panadapter), the ability to mute the microphone when playing an SSB voice file, access to dedicated CI-V and/or SteppIR control channel, etc. While you may not have used all those features you certainly do not have the same functionality as you had with the microKEYER II.
>
>73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>On 2019-03-21 1:52 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Just a quick note to thank everybody here for their suggestions and help.
>> There were some things in the K3s that needed to be changed, but
>> that still left some serious issues that were definitely related to
>> DX Labs WinWarbler.
>>
>> DX Labs works by storing app settings in the registry, and the
>> registry settings for all related apps are stored in a “workspace.”
>> Somehow the settings for WinWarbler had gotten corrupted. On a whim,
>> I restored an old known-good workspace, changed the parameters to
>> the new hardware configuration and after a couple of bumpy starts, everything worked fine.
>> I saved a new workspace with these settings, and then I went back to
>> the original profile, and it remained screwed up. Once again I shut
>> everything down, loaded the new profile that I’d just created and
>> it’s all good. The bad profile has now been deleted off the system
>> and all is once again right.
>>
>> I would definitely like to thank Barry, K3NDM for helping me out
>> one-on-one, ironing out the needed K3s settings, and getting RTTY
>> working in FLDIGI and N1MM (proving this was a DX Labs problem).
>>
>> FOUR DAYS to get this done, but at least now, with very limited
>> testing, I seem to have all the functionality I had previously with
>> the MicroKeyer-II in line—but without the extra cabling, risk of RF
>> ingress, and multiple virtual COM ports.
>>
>> Again, a big thank you to everybody who lent a hand to this. One
>> final question, does the USB audio connection from the K3s separate
>> out the main and sub receiver audio in the same manner as using a
>> physical audio breakout cable two and 3.5mm plugs? I would like to
>> have a second instance of MMTTY set up to receive the sub RX audio,
>> with the primary using only the main VFO. I used to be able to
>> accomplish this using left- and right-channels in the MMTTY setup,
>> but that doesn’t seem to work using USB. Not a major issue now that
>> FT8 Dxpedition Mode seems to be all the rage, but I would still like to have this functionality if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> - pjd
>>
>
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Lovin' my K3S (S/N 10023)
73, Peter W2IRT