Re: Switch mode PSU
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Has anyone had any bad experiences using a K3 and a switch mode PSU?. The SEC-1223 looks great aware some can cause problems.. They say 'Totally noise free', that's some claim.. *** * -- *Iain G4SGX* ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Iain, I use a Power Mite from Walters & Stanton when not in the shack - is very quiet, both physically and RF wise
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #??? -- It came to me that reform should begin at home, and since that day I have not had time to remake the world. -Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) On 10 Sep 2011, at 22:58, Iain Haywood wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone had any bad experiences using a K3 and a switch mode PSU?. > The SEC-1223 looks great aware some can cause problems.. > They say 'Totally noise free', that's some claim.. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hello Iain
If running the K3 from home, I would suggest a linear power supply is better than switched-mode, mainly because a good linear supply should have better regulation, resulting in a cleaner TX signal. I've used a Watson WM-25 for several years and it is reliable and quiet RF-wise, but at 100W RF output from the K3 the terminal voltage of the PSU drops from 13.8V to about 13.1V. Add cable and connector losses and the voltage drop at the K3 PA is significant. I recently purchased an SEC-1223 - it has noticeably better regulation (although still not as good as my large transformer PSU). I immediately modified the output connectors and added 2 extra decoupling caps across the output. I've recently modified the fan to run continuously, but it is noisy so I'm now going to fit a small switch on the rear panel (Auto/Continuous). See http://www.qsl.net/gm3woj/sec1223mod.htm Of course, not everyone wants to modify a brand-new power supply ! 73 Chris GM3WOJ www.zk2v.com |
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I use the Samlex SEC-1235M with my K3, with no issues or noise detected.
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I have that power supply, in fact two of them, which I use with the K-3 and
a Flex 5000. If it produces any noise I have never heard it. Both units have been very reliable and seem to work very well indeed. Bruce-W8FU -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:43 AM To: [hidden email] Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Switch mode PSU Iain, I use a Power Mite from Walters & Stanton when not in the shack - is very quiet, both physically and RF wise 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #??? -- It came to me that reform should begin at home, and since that day I have not had time to remake the world. -Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) On 10 Sep 2011, at 22:58, Iain Haywood wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone had any bad experiences using a K3 and a switch mode PSU?. > The SEC-1223 looks great aware some can cause problems.. > They say 'Totally noise free', that's some claim.. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: 4W6A Video, count the K3's !
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Link to 4W6A video via YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIHDCZiwG8&feature=player_embedded <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIHDCZiwG8&feature=player_embedded> Count the K3's ! Iain G4SGX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: 4W6A Video, count the K3's !
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Quite agree Ron, yet this 59/599 thing seems to be deeply ingrained into
dxpeditions and contests these days. Speaking for myself I would far rather have a true report so I know how I'm getting out to the relevant place at the relevant time. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -----Original Message----- From: Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:05 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! That's great Iain - tnx! But WHY give someone a "599" report when they have an S1 signal? They made the contact. They got into the log. That's the goal. Why lie about the signal strength? If someone asked about their signal I'd hope they got an honest reply. (I feel the same way about contests, but the justification there is that a "signal report" is required by the rules for a valid contact. I've never seen a rule that it has to be a valid signal report, so it's 599 for anyone who gets into the log, Hi!) 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- Link to 4W6A video via YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIHDCZiwG8&feature=player_embedded <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIHDCZiwG8&feature=player_embedded> Count the K3's ! Iain G4SGX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: 4W6A Video, count the K3's !
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> WHY give someone a "599" report when they have an S1 signal? They made
> the contact. They got into the log. That's the goal. Why lie about the > signal strength? In this context, the signal report has devolved into the equivalent of white space. It serves to space the QSOs out far enough to give each side a minimal amount of time for logging. If you'd like to hear honest reports being used, in a context where they have meaning, try a QRP contest. Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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> From: Ron D'Eau Claire > ...But WHY give someone a "599" report when they have an S1 signal?.... ========= Ah yes. Actually, it isn't even 599, it's 5nn. If a DXpedition has 50,000 QSOs, you may be sure that every one receives 5nn. There is actually a reason, of course: it speeds up the run rate. Whether or not that reason is valid depends on your point of view. It seems absurd to have a QSO whose entire contents consist of 3 characters that are known in advance, but it's the way things have evolved. At least one DX mode, JT65, has a different convention. The exchange is pre-canned, but the reports are valid, expressed in dBM, and calculated by the software. Whatcha gonna do....? 73, Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! and the 599/59 reports
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I think the rationale behind the 599/59 report is in the interest of saving time and maximizing contacts. Can you imagine the amount of additional time that would be required to enter each signal report received in the log; none the less the number of guys that would request a repeat of the report. The 599/59 report streamlines the contact, allowing many more contacts per minute. That said, I will agree with you for casual contacts, an honest report makes a lot more sense and will give you (and the other station) about both how you each stack up and band conditions. Dick K8ZTT -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Downs Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:19 PM To: Ron D'Eau Claire; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! Quite agree Ron, yet this 59/599 thing seems to be deeply ingrained into dxpeditions and contests these days. Speaking for myself I would far rather have a true report so I know how I'm getting out to the relevant place at the relevant time. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -----Original Message----- From: Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:05 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! That's great Iain - tnx! But WHY give someone a "599" report when they have an S1 signal? They made the contact. They got into the log. That's the goal. Why lie about the signal strength? If someone asked about their signal I'd hope they got an honest reply. (I feel the same way about contests, but the justification there is that a "signal report" is required by the rules for a valid contact. I've never seen a rule that it has to be a valid signal report, so it's 599 for anyone who gets into the log, Hi!) 73, Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- Link to 4W6A video via YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIHDCZiwG8&feature=player_embedded <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIHDCZiwG8&feature=player_embedded> Count the K3's ! Iain G4SGX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: 4W6A Video, count the K3's !
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Have you guys actually thought this through?? In most cases, the DX is trying to work as many people as possible as fast as they can. Giving you an "accurate" signal report requires them to decide how strong you are (takes a small amount of time) as well as manually type into the logger a different number than the default (takes a lot of time, relatively speaking, to tab and type). Everyone else in the pileup is going to be glad you didn't get your "accurate" report. As for that "accurate" report, in most cases you aren't going to have a clue what kind of antenna the DX is using or even what direction it may be pointing at the moment, so signal strength is utterly meaningless. The DX isn't "lying" about anything. You are simply deluding yourself if you think their report means anything other than that you were strong/readable enough to get through the pileup, which you should have recognized by that point anyway. If you want a number different than 599, make up your own and log it ... it will easily have every bit as as much relevance under those conditions. Dave AB7E On 10/3/2011 12:18 PM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: > Quite agree Ron, yet this 59/599 thing seems to be deeply ingrained into > dxpeditions and contests these days. Speaking for myself I would far rather > have a true report so I know how I'm getting out to the relevant place at > the relevant time. > > 73 to all > > Geoff > G3UCK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron D'Eau Claire > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:05 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! > > That's great Iain - tnx! > > But WHY give someone a "599" report when they have an S1 signal? They made > the contact. They got into the log. That's the goal. Why lie about the > signal strength? > > If someone asked about their signal I'd hope they got an honest reply. > > (I feel the same way about contests, but the justification there is that a > "signal report" is required by the rules for a valid contact. I've never > seen a rule that it has to be a valid signal report, so it's 599 for anyone > who gets into the log, Hi!) > > 73, > > Ron AC7AC Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wayne wrote...
> In this context, the signal report has devolved into the equivalent of > white space. It serves to space the QSOs out far enough to give each > side a minimal amount of time for logging. To that I'd add that it's not really a signal report at all. It's a timing and brain adjustment prosign... "This is what I sound like, and here comes the ACTUAL part of the exchange that counts". Just like "QRL?" actually means "I'm about to call CQ on this frequency in 0.1 seconds or so." 73, George T Daughters, K6GT CU in the California QSO Party (CQP) October 1-2, 2011 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Curious that signal reports comes up today. I worked 7Z1HL today and
received a 329 report. He got back a 339 report. The county hunter folks tend to give more realistic reports on a regular basis. In contests they mean nothing. Mike W0MU J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net On 10/3/2011 1:30 PM, Dick Williams wrote: > I think the rationale behind the 599/59 report is in the interest of saving > time and maximizing contacts. Can you imagine the amount of additional time > that would be required to enter each signal report received in the log; > none the less the number of guys that would request a repeat of the report. > The 599/59 report streamlines the contact, allowing many more contacts per > minute. > > That said, I will agree with you for casual contacts, an honest report > makes a lot more sense and will give you (and the other station) about both > how you each stack up and band conditions. > > Dick K8ZTT > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Downs > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:19 PM > To: Ron D'Eau Claire; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! > > Quite agree Ron, yet this 59/599 thing seems to be deeply ingrained into > dxpeditions and contests these days. Speaking for myself I would far rather > have a true report so I know how I'm getting out to the relevant place at > the relevant time. > > 73 to all > > Geoff > G3UCK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron D'Eau Claire > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:05 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! > > That's great Iain - tnx! > > But WHY give someone a "599" report when they have an S1 signal? They made > the contact. They got into the log. That's the goal. Why lie about the > signal strength? > > If someone asked about their signal I'd hope they got an honest reply. > > (I feel the same way about contests, but the justification there is that a > "signal report" is required by the rules for a valid contact. I've never > seen a rule that it has to be a valid signal report, so it's 599 for anyone > who gets into the log, Hi!) > > 73, > > Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > > > Link to 4W6A video via YouTube. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIHDCZiwG8&feature=player_embedded > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sIHDCZiwG8&feature=player_embedded> > > Count the K3's ! > > Iain G4SGX > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Because without an rst, however it is derived, the qsl isn't valid for dxcc. --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:19:22 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! > > Of course I thought it through Dave. In the video you'll hear the DX > operation say, "I gave him an 599 but he was an S1". > > My point was "why bother with a signal report at all if the station doesn't > ask for it". > > Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > > Have you guys actually thought this through?? > > In most cases, the DX is trying to work as many people as possible as > fast as they can. Giving you an "accurate" signal report requires them > to decide how strong you are (takes a small amount of time) as well as > manually type into the logger a different number than the default (takes > a lot of time, relatively speaking, to tab and type). Everyone else in > the pileup is going to be glad you didn't get your "accurate" report. > > As for that "accurate" report, in most cases you aren't going to have a > clue what kind of antenna the DX is using or even what direction it may > be pointing at the moment, so signal strength is utterly meaningless. > The DX isn't "lying" about anything. You are simply deluding yourself > if you think their report means anything other than that you were > strong/readable enough to get through the pileup, which you should have > recognized by that point anyway. If you want a number different than > 599, make up your own and log it ... it will easily have every bit as as > much relevance under those conditions. > > Dave AB7E > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I don't believe this is correct. I could not find anything in the DXCC
rules that say RST is required. They sure did not care what my signal report was on the application and I don't think LOTW even cares about the signal report. Most awards require an exchange of information and the callsign is probably the most important piece of information the other side needs to get. I guess we use 59 because people would flip out if the DX station just came back and said W0MU, W1AW and W0ABC you are in the log and that was it. Mike W0MU J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net On 10/3/2011 9:36 PM, Dale Putnam wrote: > Because without an rst, however it is derived, the qsl isn't valid for dxcc. > > --... ...-- > Dale - WC7S in Wy > > From: [hidden email] >> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] >> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:19:22 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 4W6A Video, count the K3's ! >> >> Of course I thought it through Dave. In the video you'll hear the DX >> operation say, "I gave him an 599 but he was an S1". >> >> My point was "why bother with a signal report at all if the station doesn't >> ask for it". >> >> Ron AC7AC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Have you guys actually thought this through?? >> >> In most cases, the DX is trying to work as many people as possible as >> fast as they can. Giving you an "accurate" signal report requires them >> to decide how strong you are (takes a small amount of time) as well as >> manually type into the logger a different number than the default (takes >> a lot of time, relatively speaking, to tab and type). Everyone else in >> the pileup is going to be glad you didn't get your "accurate" report. >> >> As for that "accurate" report, in most cases you aren't going to have a >> clue what kind of antenna the DX is using or even what direction it may >> be pointing at the moment, so signal strength is utterly meaningless. >> The DX isn't "lying" about anything. You are simply deluding yourself >> if you think their report means anything other than that you were >> strong/readable enough to get through the pileup, which you should have >> recognized by that point anyway. If you want a number different than >> 599, make up your own and log it ... it will easily have every bit as as >> much relevance under those conditions. >> >> Dave AB7E >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: 4W6A Video, count the K3's !
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Simple ... because DXCC and most contest sponsors specifically require that a signal report be sent and logged by both parties. Neither cares whether it was accurate, though, and most of the time it is never checked. When was the last time a DXCC card checker asked to see your log? Dave AB7E On 10/3/2011 8:19 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Of course I thought it through Dave. In the video you'll hear the DX > operation say, "I gave him an 599 but he was an S1". > > My point was "why bother with a signal report at all if the station doesn't > ask for it". > > Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > > Have you guys actually thought this through?? > > In most cases, the DX is trying to work as many people as possible as > fast as they can. Giving you an "accurate" signal report requires them > to decide how strong you are (takes a small amount of time) as well as > manually type into the logger a different number than the default (takes > a lot of time, relatively speaking, to tab and type). Everyone else in > the pileup is going to be glad you didn't get your "accurate" report. > > As for that "accurate" report, in most cases you aren't going to have a > clue what kind of antenna the DX is using or even what direction it may > be pointing at the moment, so signal strength is utterly meaningless. > The DX isn't "lying" about anything. You are simply deluding yourself > if you think their report means anything other than that you were > strong/readable enough to get through the pileup, which you should have > recognized by that point anyway. If you want a number different than > 599, make up your own and log it ... it will easily have every bit as as > much relevance under those conditions. > > Dave AB7E > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I stand corrected ... I also can find no DXCC requirement that a signal report be sent/ received, or logged. Dave AB7E On 10/3/2011 11:52 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > Simple ... because DXCC and most contest sponsors specifically require > that a signal report be sent and logged by both parties. Neither cares > whether it was accurate, though, and most of the time it is never > checked. When was the last time a DXCC card checker asked to see your log? > > Dave AB7E > > > > On 10/3/2011 8:19 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> Of course I thought it through Dave. In the video you'll hear the DX >> operation say, "I gave him an 599 but he was an S1". >> >> My point was "why bother with a signal report at all if the station doesn't >> ask for it". >> >> Ron AC7AC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Have you guys actually thought this through?? >> >> In most cases, the DX is trying to work as many people as possible as >> fast as they can. Giving you an "accurate" signal report requires them >> to decide how strong you are (takes a small amount of time) as well as >> manually type into the logger a different number than the default (takes >> a lot of time, relatively speaking, to tab and type). Everyone else in >> the pileup is going to be glad you didn't get your "accurate" report. >> >> As for that "accurate" report, in most cases you aren't going to have a >> clue what kind of antenna the DX is using or even what direction it may >> be pointing at the moment, so signal strength is utterly meaningless. >> The DX isn't "lying" about anything. You are simply deluding yourself >> if you think their report means anything other than that you were >> strong/readable enough to get through the pileup, which you should have >> recognized by that point anyway. If you want a number different than >> 599, make up your own and log it ... it will easily have every bit as as >> much relevance under those conditions. >> >> Dave AB7E >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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