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Mike Morrow-3

Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime.

I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime?

Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem.

Mike / KK5F

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>From: K4HYJ via Elecraft <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM
>To: 'Wes' <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
>
>I feel safer now!!
>
>K4HYJ
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On
>Behalf Of Wes
>Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ...
>warning issued by FCC today
>
>Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that
>Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech.
>
>N7WS
>
>On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> The FCC just posted this:
>>
>>
>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not
>> -use-radios-crimes
>>
>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case
>their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation:
>>
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a
>> ttack/index.html
>>
>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of
>self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75
>meters.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
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Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

There was an article on the front page of today's Washington Post that described people going to DC being assisted with their communications by "Ham Radio Operators". There was also much footage of the incident at the Capitol of people with HTs hangin off of their belts..
Been a lot of Baofengs advertised on "prepper" sites past few years too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Morrow <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime.

I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime?

Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem.

Mike / KK5F

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Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

Yeah. It's out there in the public eye already, whether legit or not. To many people, any civilian with a HT is a ham. They don't necessarily make distinctions between Amateur Radio, CB, GMRS, FRS etc.

Best to cite and enforce existing laws than to create more laws and restrictions that will only affect law abiding citizens.

On Sunday, January 17, 2021, 5:23:53 PM MST, Paul Horenstein K2PH via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:

There was an article on the front page of today's Washington Post that described people going to DC being assisted with their communications by "Ham Radio Operators". There was also much footage of the incident at the Capitol of people with HTs hangin off of their belts..
Been a lot of Baofengs advertised on "prepper" sites past few years too.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Morrow <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime.

I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime?

Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem.

Mike / KK5F

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Vic Rosenthal

Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

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My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime was surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to rob banks.
I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad?

Victor

> On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime.
>
> I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime?
>
> Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem.
>
> Mike / KK5F
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM
>> To: 'Wes' <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
>>
>> I feel safer now!!
>>
>> K4HYJ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On
>> Behalf Of Wes
>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ...
>> warning issued by FCC today
>>
>> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that
>> Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech.
>>
>> N7WS
>>
>>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> The FCC just posted this:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not
>>> -use-radios-crimes
>>>
>>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case
>> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a
>>> ttack/index.html
>>>
>>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of
>> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75
>> meters.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>
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Kenneth Moorman

Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

Well said, Vic. Amen!

Ken, NU4I

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> On Jan 18, 2021, at 06:13, Vic Rosenthal <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime was surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to rob banks.
> I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad?
>
> Victor
>
>> On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime.
>>
>> I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime?
>>
>> Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem.
>>
>> Mike / KK5F
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM
>>> To: 'Wes' <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
>>>
>>> I feel safer now!!
>>>
>>> K4HYJ
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On
>>> Behalf Of Wes
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ...
>>> warning issued by FCC today
>>>
>>> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that
>>> Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech.
>>>
>>> N7WS
>>>
>>>>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>>> The FCC just posted this:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not
>>>>> -use-radios-crimes
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case
>>> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a
>>>> ttack/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of
>>> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75
>>> meters.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

I see it somewhat differently and I don't see it aimed at me. I see a benefit of FBI/FCC publicly citing the law as a good way to inform the general public that laws exist and using radios in the furtherance of a crime (ham or otherwise) is already illegal, and such crimes will be prosecuted. My hope is that this will help quell any cry that "something must be done" in the way of more laws, regulation and restrictions.
On Monday, January 18, 2021, 4:46:56 AM MST, Ken <[hidden email]> wrote:

Well said, Vic. Amen!

Ken, NU4I

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len

Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

In reply to this post by Vic Rosenthal

I too thought that this was a curious announcement, especially since it hit the mainstream media. It seems more like a "hey, check out this way to communicate." Those of us who are licensed already know this. The general public doesn't even know we exist. The few in between already do what they want.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 4:12 AM
To: Mike Morrow <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime was surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to rob banks.
I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad?

Victor

> On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime.
>
> I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime?
>
> Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem.
>
> Mike / KK5F
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM
>> To: 'Wes' <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
>>
>> I feel safer now!!
>>
>> K4HYJ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Wes
>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ...
>> warning issued by FCC today
>>
>> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know
>> that Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech.
>>
>> N7WS
>>
>>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> The FCC just posted this:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-n
>>> ot
>>> -use-radios-crimes
>>>
>>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in
>>> case
>> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media
>>> -a
>>> ttack/index.html
>>>
>>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of
>> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM
>> on 75 meters.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>
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Gary Memory

Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

While it sounds dumb when they make such a statement, it is kinda like when
here in the US of A, one of the questions on our yearly income tax forms
is: Was any of your yearly income obtained illegally (or words to that
affect)? Now that you have been warned, they have a better handle on what
is required to toss your (biblical term for a donkey here) in jail.

I live in the DC area and as of yesterday, all receivers I own are on and
listening.

Gary, N7BRJ

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 08:57 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I too thought that this was a curious announcement, especially since it
> hit the mainstream media. It seems more like a "hey, check out this way to
> communicate." Those of us who are licensed already know this. The general
> public doesn't even know we exist. The few in between already do what they
> want.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 4:12 AM
> To: Mike Morrow <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ...
> warning issued by FCC today
>
> My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime
> was surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to
> rob banks.
> I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad?
>
> Victor
>
> > On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio
> services as illegal for use in crime.
> >
> > I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED
> for use in crime?
> >
> > Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling
> attention to this total non-problem.
> >
> > Mike / KK5F
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft <[hidden email]>
> >> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM
> >> To: 'Wes' <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ...
> warning issued by FCC today
> >>
> >> I feel safer now!!
> >>
> >> K4HYJ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email]
> >> <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Wes
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ...
> >> warning issued by FCC today
> >>
> >> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know
> >> that Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech.
> >>
> >> N7WS
> >>
> >>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> >>> The FCC just posted this:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-n
> >>> ot
> >>> -use-radios-crimes
> >>>
> >>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in
> >>> case
> >> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media
> >>> -a
> >>> ttack/index.html
> >>>
> >>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of
> >> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM
> >> on 75 meters.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Wayne
> >>> N6KR
> >>>
> >>
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

I’m not at all surprised the FCC felt it necessary to make the statement they did. And it certainly wasn’t limited to amateur radio licensees.

Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the “interesting QRM” Wayne referred to, should know why. That QRM, more and more often, also bleeds over into other places it doesn’t belong, like what should be apolitical reflectors. It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the slightest provocation.

Grant NQ5T

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JP Douglas

Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

I find this list way too political and mostly one sided.
Could you please stop this and all political/religious discussions?
Or do I have to say something against your religion/politics to stop the thread???
Thanks
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

>
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
> Date: January 18, 2021 at 9:48:34 AM EST
> To: Elecraft Refl <[hidden email]>
>
> I’m not at all surprised the FCC felt it necessary to make the statement they did. And it certainly wasn’t limited to amateur radio licensees.
>
> Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the “interesting QRM” Wayne referred to, should know why. That QRM, more and more often, also bleeds over into other places it doesn’t belong, like what should be apolitical reflectors. It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the slightest provocation.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
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NK7Z

Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

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Grant,

All of this topic drift into areas non-Elecraft, (and there is a massive
amount of it), is a direct result of the moderation efforts Elecraft
puts into this group.

If the group owners, (Elecraft), wanted things tighter, they would
moderate more tightly. If they don't have staff to moderate, then they
should not worry when things get off topic, which for the most part they
don't, or close the group.

This style of moderation allows folks to push the limits for short
periods of time, between moderation events, which is why we get posts
about everything else. The longer the time period between moderation
events, the further topics drift.

This method of moderation almost guarantees topic drift. I would LOVE
to see just Elecraft information here, and nothing else... But not my
group, so I just delete most non-Elecraft posts.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net

On 1/18/21 6:48 AM, Grant Youngman wrote:

> I’m not at all surprised the FCC felt it necessary to make the statement they did. And it certainly wasn’t limited to amateur radio licensees.
>
> Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the “interesting QRM” Wayne referred to, should know why. That QRM, more and more often, also bleeds over into other places it doesn’t belong, like what should be apolitical reflectors. It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the slightest provocation.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>
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Rich NE1EE-2

Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

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On 2021-01-18 09:48:-0500, Grant Youngman wrote:
>Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the "interesting QRM" Wayne referred to, should know why. That QRM, more and more often, also bleeds over into other places it doesn�t belong, like what should be apolitical reflectors. It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the slightest provocation.
>
>Grant NQ5T

;-) A bit of dry (wry?) humor is always appreciated.

~R~
72/73 de Rich NE1EE
The Dusty Key
On the banks of the Piscataqua

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Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

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Too much said already.
Free speech is under assault.
A government that militarizes its seat of power fears its citizens.
Bottom line, expect your transmissions to be subject to the same analysis as your emails, texts, posts and any other communications.

But don’t worry, I just went to the top of the POI list!

Keeping Watch-
shu

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Re: Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

Can we stop this crap already? Enough is enough :-(

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:26 AM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Too much said already.
> Free speech is under assault.
> A government that militarizes its seat of power fears its citizens.
> Bottom line, expect your transmissions to be subject to the same analysis as your emails, texts, posts and any other communications.
>
> But don’t worry, I just went to the top of the POI list!
>
> Keeping Watch-
> shu
>
> Joe Shuman, NZ8P
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