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>    1. Re: PTT help KX3/KXPA100 (Nr4c)
>    2. Re: OT: Ground rods and concrete (dave)
>    3. Re: A little theory (Ron D'Eau Claire)
>    4. Re: A little theory (Ron D'Eau Claire)
>    5. Re: A little theory (Ron D'Eau Claire)
>    6. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (Christopher Hoover)
>    7.  [K3] K3 For Sale (Will Ravenel)
>    8. Ground Rods and Congrete - Enough Said! (Terry Brown)
>    9. Re: A little theory ([hidden email])
>   10. Is the antenna tuner needed on the KX2 to see SWR? (Tyler Haske)
>   11. Re: OT: Ground rods and concrete (David Gilbert)
>   12. Re: Ground Rods and Congrete - Enough Said! (Roger D Johnson)
>   13. Re: Ground Rods and Congrete - Enough Said! (ROBERT MUELLER)
>   14. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (Nr4c)
>   15. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (Ron Wilcox)
>   16. Re: Elecraft K3 For Sale (Carl J?n Denbow)
>   17. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (Clay Autery)
>   18. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (George Thornton)
>   19. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (Bob Novas)
>   20. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (Grant Youngman)
>   21. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (Bob Novas)
>   22. K3 Remote: RRC Device drivers under Windows 10 (Rick Tavan)
>   23. PX3 Wish List (Scott Russell)
>   24. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (M. George)
>   25. Re: K3 Remote: RRC Device drivers under Windows 10 (Fred Jensen)
>   26. Re: Sub Receiver & KBPF3 (Guy Olinger K2AV)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:15:41 -0400
> From: Nr4c <[hidden email]>
> To: Michael Dinkelman <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PTT help KX3/KXPA100
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> The ACC2 port is 2.5mm TRS, not TRRS.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
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>
> > On Apr 18, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Michael Dinkelman <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Trying to get PTT working with a boom mic into the KX3.
> > The microphone works fine using VOX into the microphone jack of the KX3.
> > Of course, XMIT works too.
> >
> > Trying to trigger PTT using the GPIO port of the KX3/KXPA100 accessory
> > cable.
> > 1) MICBTN configured to OFF  (tried PTT too)
> > 2) ACC2 IO configured to LO=PTT
> >
> > No PTT when using a mono plug into the GPIO port
> > Gotta be something simple. What am I missing?
> >
> > (I would try at the ACC2 port on the KX3 itself but no 2.5mm TRRS plugs
> > at this point)
> >
> > cheers
> > mike, n7wa
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:30:25 -0500
> From: dave <[hidden email]>
> To: Ken G Kopp <[hidden email]>, Elecraft
> <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Ground rods and concrete
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>
> Let me inject an experience that occurred while I was a field engineer
> for the phone co. working in Miami. We had a buried cable that ran
> diagonally across an open green area. About 1/3 of the way across was
> what we called a 'hand hole', a shallow pit where a splice or repair
> had been done. It is back filled and, once the grass recovers, no one
> knows it is there. Lightning struck in the vicinity. The telco cable
> has the nice aluminum sheath and is well grounded. The lightning hops
> onto that in preference to running through the ground. The water in
> the hand hole exploded and left a small crater. The hole was about 2'
> deep and 3' x 5'.
>
> This makes perfectly good sense to me. You have water constricted into
> a small enclosure. The lightning electrode, in this case the telco
> cable, gets very hot very quickly. The water turns to steam and
> explodes. Nothing surprising about that.
>
> Let me also mention that the experts will tell us to not use solder on
> any grounding conductors as the solder will melt. Well . . . water
> boils at an appreciably lower temp than solder melts. What has
> happened to the water in the vicinity of the lightning electrode
> before the solder has had time to melt?
>
> As for assertions that exploding Ufer grounds are a myth, I can tell
> you for certain that the crater in Miami was not a myth. I kept a
> photo of it on my desk for a few months to show those curious.
>
> Experience tells me that Ufer grounds are, in general, a terrible
> idea. There is very little reason to risk a building or tower
> foundation to save the few $$$ of installing a correct ground system.
> Ufer grounds may be OK, indeed preferred, in places like West TX, NM,
> AZ, and parts of So CA, or in other very dry locations. But to use or
> recommend them in locations with much moisture is asking for trouble.
> In any location with much moisture, concrete will have the same water
> content as the surrounding soil.
>
> 73 de dave
> ab9ca/4
>
>
>
> On 4/18/17 6:39 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
> > I was the first to use the term "exploding tower base" in this discussion.
> > The term "exploding" was probably not correct.  As several others have
> > phrased it, an instant expansion of steam is more correct.  Concrete is
> > never totally "dry" in the context of this conversation.
> >
> > I witnessed lightening blowing apart the two tower bases I spoke of in
> > person, directly, and in real-time. It happened in the mid-sixties at the
> > St. Petersburg, FL Coast Guard base.  As someone else has mentioned;
> > the Tampa Bay region has the highest incidence of lightening in the
> > Western Hemisphere.  To the one of you who accused my of lying ...
> > I was there ... you weren't.
> >
> > At the time I was an ET aboard the USC&GS (Now NOAA) Oceanographic
> > Survey ship Hydrographer/WTEI and we were in the area deliberately
> > attracting lightening with balloon-hoisted cables.  I -do- know something
> > about the infinite uncertainty of lightning.
> >
> > I'm a retired electric power company two-way radio tech and have probably
> > dealt with more types of towers than most of you.  Large electric
> > transmission
> > line towers are almost always set on four concrete piers, and are grounded
> > with (usually) copper straps cad-welded to each tower leg and connected to
> > ground rods a bit away from the cement.  Each of us can search long enough
> > to find "facts" that support our various positons, especially on today's
> > Internet.
> >
> > Here in the mountains of the West ... as well other regions ... finding and
> > maintaining a "good" ground at a radio site atop a mountain can be a
> > "challenge".  It's almost never done with ground rods.  My power company
> > employer has several hundred mountain-top microwave and/or radio sites.
> > Been there, done that, as they say.
> >
> > One responder spoke of fitting a copper pipe with a garden hose fitting and
> > "flushing" it into the ground.  That works very well, and is how some of my
> > 14 grounds are installed.  It helps if the downward end is partly
> > flattened, BTW.
> >
> > A much bigger problem overall than lightening is water collecting in tower
> > legs,
> > especially in climates where it can rust (undetected) from the inside and /
> > or
> > freeze and split one or more legs.  There's an accepted way to avoid this.
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Ken Kopp - K0PP
> >
> >
> > On Apr 18, 2017 at 4:30 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> some 40 years ago, maybe longer I put up a 50' rohn 25G tower. Dug the
> >> hole
> >
> >     and set the tower base in it alone with a 12' 3/4" ground rod and
> > poured the
> >     cement, left about 6" of ground rod protruding. I bonded to that rod
> > and grounded
> >     the tower. 3 years later I had a huge lightning strike on my tower and
> > yes.. it cracked
> >     that base.
> >
> >     never again
> >
> >     Ronnie W5SUM
> >
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> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:43:14 -0700
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>, "'QRP-L Mailing
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A little theory
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> For all of you Feynman fans out there, you might get a chuckle out of these
> Alley Oop strips featuring Dick hisself from 2003. Arrow forward a couple of
> days an Dr. Feynman will enter center stage, complete with Bongos.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> If you are not familiar with Richard Feynman he was a physicist who worked
> on the Manhattan Project.  He was also a professor at Caltech.  
> Here are some of his lectures on physics which he offered to undergrads.
> Introductory college level physics taught by a master.
>
> http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/
>
> 73 & GL,
>
>       Kevin.  KD5ONS
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> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:45:06 -0700
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A little theory
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> I forgot to add, if you have any comments, let us take them off the Elecraft
> list. The OT Traffic here has been FIERCE  lately, Hi!
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ron
> D'Eau Claire
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:43 PM
> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]; 'QRP-L Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A little theory
>
> For all of you Feynman fans out there, you might get a chuckle out of these
> Alley Oop strips featuring Dick hisself from 2003. Arrow forward a couple of
> days an Dr. Feynman will enter center stage, complete with Bongos.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
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> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 11:41 AM
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> Subject: [Elecraft] A little theory
>
> If you are not familiar with Richard Feynman he was a physicist who worked
> on the Manhattan Project.  He was also a professor at Caltech.  
> Here are some of his lectures on physics which he offered to undergrads.
> Introductory college level physics taught by a master.
>
> http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/
>
> 73 & GL,
>
>       Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:27:49 -0700
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
> To: "'Ron D'Eau Claire'" <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>,
> <[hidden email]>, "'QRP-L Mailing List'"
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A little theory
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> Aaargh. Here's the link:
>
> http://www.gocomics.com/alley-oop/2003/08/04
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:58:28 +0800
> From: Christopher Hoover <[hidden email]>
> To: wa9fvp <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
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> >
> > The TMP cables were in the way and sub-receiver box was a bit difficult
> > getting the SUBIN and SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.
>
>
> I installed mine myself too.    (And I just r/r recently with the addition
> of the gen coverage bp filters on the main board.)   It is certainly
> fiddly.  The mechanical design leaves much to be desired.
>
> 73, Christopher  AI6KG.
>
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 4:27 AM, wa9fvp <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I just installed the Sub receiver and the KBPF3A in my K3S.  I have one
> > complaint and one concern.
> >
> > First the activation of the KBPF3A is very vague.  It's mentioned in the
> > users manual on page 60 (the configuration menu) but there's nothing that
> > says, while in (CONFIG:KBFP3) that you have to press [SUB] and then select
> > "nor".  I double checked the installation manual for the sub receiver and
> > the KBFP3A but there was nothing about activating the General Coverage
> > filters.
> >
> > My concern is;  I consider myself as an experienced kit builder but for me,
> > it was a bit difficult installing the Sub-Receiver.  The TMP cables were in
> > the way and sub-receiver box was a bit difficult getting the SUBIN and
> > SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.  Someone who is new to kit
> > building would have a more difficult time.
> >
> > The sub-receiver is working great and the one thing I like about it is;
> > it's
> > a clone of the main receiver with FM, AM, 2.8, 400 and 250Hz filters.  I
> > wonder how the sub-receiver would stack-up on Sherwood Engineering's test
> > data.
> >
> > Jack WA9FVP
> > Willco Electronics
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Jack WA9FVP
> >
> > Sent from my home-brew I5 Core PC
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.
> > nabble.com/Sub-Receiver-KBPF3-tp7629327.html
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 23:57:32 -0400
> From: Will Ravenel <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft]  [K3] K3 For Sale
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Selling my K3/100 Ser #3856. It has been upgraded to the new KSYN3A for main and sub receivers, so has most of the performance of a K3S. Includes manuals, Fred Cady?s 3rd edition K3/P3 book, Rose Kopp dust cover and K3 DXpedition model bag with foam front and back panel protection, and power cord. Other included options:
>  
> - KAT3, K3 ATU Modular Kit
> - KSYN3AUPG, KSYN3A Upgrade Kit  
> - KRX3A-K, K3 2nd RX Modular Kit (incl. KSYN3A synthesizer)
> - KIO3, K3 I/O Interface Option
> - KXV3A, K3 Transverter Interface Option (P3 ready)
> - KUSB, Universal Serial Bus Adapter
> - KFL3A-2.7K, 2.7 KHz 5 Pole Filter on main and sub rcvr boards
> - KFL3A-500, 500Hz, 5 Pole Filter
> - KFL3A-400, 400Hz, 8 Pole Filter
> - Inrad 700 Hz filter
> - KFL3A-600, 600Hz AM Filter  
> - KBPF3, K3 General Coverage Receiver Module  
> - K3SSKT, K3 Stainless H/W Kit
>
> Non-smoking environment, I am original owner, cosmetically 9/10.
> Will ship double boxed and insured within CONUS - $2550.
> Contact me at 336-210-8966 or [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> if interested or with questions.
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:21:01 -0700
> From: "Terry Brown" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Ground Rods and Congrete - Enough Said!
> Message-ID: <00f001d2b8c4$5b041260$110c3720$@comcast.net>
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>
> This topic is taking on a life of its own.  It appears that there are two
> camps in the discussion; each believing they have documented evidence that
> they are right.  Perhaps it is time to agree to disagree and put the thread
> to rest.
>
>  
>
> Respectfully,
>
>  
>
> Terry de N7TB
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:21:02 -0700
> From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A little theory
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> The link was not off topic when I posted it.  My intention was not to
> advertise an already famous person but rather to get folks more
> interested in learning theory.  There has been so much discussion of
> grounding, dielectrics, antenna theory, impedance, and feedline problems
> which a few equations could solve quite quickly.  An equation can
> substitute for ten thousand words.  The Reflector would not be so
> deluged with antenna and feedline questions with just a little more
> theory being learned.
>
> I find the ARRL antenna books anecdotal.  They give me fish but don't
> teach me how to fish.  When I learned the antenna equations I found I
> could fish any way I wanted to.
>
>      73,
>
>           Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 00:28:50 -0400
> From: Tyler Haske <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Is the antenna tuner needed on the KX2 to see SWR?
> Message-ID:
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> I'm building my first HF rig and I've opted to go without an antenna tuner
> since I plan on using a magnetic loop.
>
> I see in the loops instructions I need to know the SWR to tune the antenna.
>
> I see in the KX2 instructions it has overload protection based on the SWR.
>
> ... does the KX2 know the SWR without the tuner?
>
> Tyler
> KM4KRU
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:41:06 -0700
> From: David Gilbert <[hidden email]>
> To: Rick Dettinger <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Ground rods and concrete
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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>
>
> Everyone seems tired of this thread by now, so I'll make my final
> comment an observation that there is zero exposed rebar in the picture
> of that guy wire base that supposedly exploded because of it.  I'd offer
> the possibility that the base exploded because there wasn't enough
> rebar, not because there was too much.  The article itself makes the
> statement that faulty Ufer installations are the problem, not Ufer
> grounds per se.
>
> Dave   Ab7E
>
>
> On 4/18/2017 8:01 AM, Rick Dettinger wrote:
> > Here is an article that described a Ufer ground failure that prompted the installation of an extensive external grounding system on a 1900? BC tower.
> >
> > http://www.radioworld.com/headlines/0045/proper-grounding-and-bonding-are-crucial/338510
> >
> > The Broadcast industry doesn?t seem to put their faith in Uber grounding.
> >
> > Rick
> >  
> >> On
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 07:22:04 -0400
> From: Roger D Johnson <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ground Rods and Congrete - Enough Said!
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Unfortunately, lightning protection is one of the most discussed and least
> understood topics in amateur radio. A properly engineered and constructed
> Ufer ground works well but many seem to think that any amount of conductor
> buried in any amount of concrete in any configuration is a Ufer ground! These
> same people probably think that, if 120 radials make a good ground for a
> vertical antenna, then a single wire 120 times as long will work the same.
>
> 73, Roger
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 07:41:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: ROBERT MUELLER <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email], Terry Brown <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ground Rods and Congrete - Enough Said!
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Terry, they do this all the time as you know which is why I do not read 90% of the posts. Perhaps our notes will point this out to the folks that are past about number 50 on a subject.
> Bob
>
> > On April 19, 2017 at 12:21 AM Terry Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This topic is taking on a life of its own. It appears that there are two
> > camps in the discussion; each believing they have documented evidence that
> > they are right. Perhaps it is time to agree to disagree and put the thread
> > to rest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> >
> >
> > Terry de N7TB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:30:05 -0400
> From: Nr4c <[hidden email]>
> To: Christopher Hoover <[hidden email]>
> Cc: wa9fvp <[hidden email]>, Elecraft Reflector
> <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
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> Really?  I have been quite please at the mechanical design of my Elecraft gear.
>
> Yes, the sub-Rec is a bit tricky to align but with a bit of care and I remove the side panel (with handle) for better view.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Christopher Hoover <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> The TMP cables were in the way and sub-receiver box was a bit difficult
> >> getting the SUBIN and SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.
> >
> >
> > I installed mine myself too.    (And I just r/r recently with the addition
> > of the gen coverage bp filters on the main board.)   It is certainly
> > fiddly.  The mechanical design leaves much to be desired.
> >
> > 73, Christopher  AI6KG.
> >
> >> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 4:27 AM, wa9fvp <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I just installed the Sub receiver and the KBPF3A in my K3S.  I have one
> >> complaint and one concern.
> >>
> >> First the activation of the KBPF3A is very vague.  It's mentioned in the
> >> users manual on page 60 (the configuration menu) but there's nothing that
> >> says, while in (CONFIG:KBFP3) that you have to press [SUB] and then select
> >> "nor".  I double checked the installation manual for the sub receiver and
> >> the KBFP3A but there was nothing about activating the General Coverage
> >> filters.
> >>
> >> My concern is;  I consider myself as an experienced kit builder but for me,
> >> it was a bit difficult installing the Sub-Receiver.  The TMP cables were in
> >> the way and sub-receiver box was a bit difficult getting the SUBIN and
> >> SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.  Someone who is new to kit
> >> building would have a more difficult time.
> >>
> >> The sub-receiver is working great and the one thing I like about it is;
> >> it's
> >> a clone of the main receiver with FM, AM, 2.8, 400 and 250Hz filters.  I
> >> wonder how the sub-receiver would stack-up on Sherwood Engineering's test
> >> data.
> >>
> >> Jack WA9FVP
> >> Willco Electronics
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----
> >> Jack WA9FVP
> >>
> >> Sent from my home-brew I5 Core PC
> >> --
> >> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.
> >> nabble.com/Sub-Receiver-KBPF3-tp7629327.html
> >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:51:12 -0600
> From: Ron Wilcox <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
> Message-ID:
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> I have a medical background, this was my first kit of any kind to do with
> electronics. While I did not find it easy, I had no problems putting it
> together. However it was not intuitive for me and had to study (not just
> read) the instructions very carefully, and usually more than once or twice.
>
> Today is a good day to have a Great Day!
> 73       Ron Wilcox KF7ZN
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Really?  I have been quite please at the mechanical design of my Elecraft
> > gear.
> >
> > Yes, the sub-Rec is a bit tricky to align but with a bit of care and I
> > remove the side panel (with handle) for better view.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> > On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Christopher Hoover <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> The TMP cables were in the way and sub-receiver box was a bit difficult
> > >> getting the SUBIN and SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.
> > >
> > >
> > > I installed mine myself too.    (And I just r/r recently with the
> > addition
> > > of the gen coverage bp filters on the main board.)   It is certainly
> > > fiddly.  The mechanical design leaves much to be desired.
> > >
> > > 73, Christopher  AI6KG.
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 4:27 AM, wa9fvp <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I just installed the Sub receiver and the KBPF3A in my K3S.  I have one
> > >> complaint and one concern.
> > >>
> > >> First the activation of the KBPF3A is very vague.  It's mentioned in the
> > >> users manual on page 60 (the configuration menu) but there's nothing
> > that
> > >> says, while in (CONFIG:KBFP3) that you have to press [SUB] and then
> > select
> > >> "nor".  I double checked the installation manual for the sub receiver
> > and
> > >> the KBFP3A but there was nothing about activating the General Coverage
> > >> filters.
> > >>
> > >> My concern is;  I consider myself as an experienced kit builder but for
> > me,
> > >> it was a bit difficult installing the Sub-Receiver.  The TMP cables
> > were in
> > >> the way and sub-receiver box was a bit difficult getting the SUBIN and
> > >> SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.  Someone who is new to kit
> > >> building would have a more difficult time.
> > >>
> > >> The sub-receiver is working great and the one thing I like about it is;
> > >> it's
> > >> a clone of the main receiver with FM, AM, 2.8, 400 and 250Hz filters.  I
> > >> wonder how the sub-receiver would stack-up on Sherwood Engineering's
> > test
> > >> data.
> > >>
> > >> Jack WA9FVP
> > >> Willco Electronics
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----
> > >> Jack WA9FVP
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my home-brew I5 Core PC
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.
> > >> nabble.com/Sub-Receiver-KBPF3-tp7629327.html
> > >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >> ______________________________________________________________
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:24:15 -0400
> From: Carl J?n Denbow <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 For Sale
> Message-ID: <01d701d2b93a$27190ac0$754b2040$@qth.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> SOLD!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Carl J?n Denbow
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:55 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 For Sale
>
> PRICE REDUCED:
>
> I have many Elecraft products, including a K3s, so I find the following excess to my needs and, therefore, on the sale block.
> Elecraft K3-100, SN: 0676, upgraded to many of features of the K3s. Contains filters -- KFL3A-250, KFL3A-6K, AND KFL3A-2.8K, is in good condition and fully functional. When I bought this rig both side panels were heavily scratched. I replaced the panels as well as most screws with stainless steel screws, and the rig is now a 9 out 10 cosmetically. Rig was back at the factory last November (11/17/2016 invoice date) and at that time was upgraded with KIO3B, KXV3B, and KSYN3A and the previously mentioned 2.8 filter. Also a number of updates were performed at that time so that when it left factory it was certified to "meet or exceed all factory specifications." [Cost of upgrades: $1,343.55.] In addition to the above, sold with following extra features:
> KAT3A Auto Tuner
> KPA100 100 watt amplifier module
> KFL3A-250Hz KDVR
> Your Price: $2,400, shipped your CONUS QTH.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ===========================
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>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:08:09 -0500
> From: Clay Autery <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> Funny....  IMO, some of the best design work I've ever seen....
> especially considering the package volume vs. modularity and capability.
>
> However, I WILL confess....
>
> I now own my own TMP tool, TMP connectors, coax stock, and assorted
> second end connectors in case I need/want to make one of those cables...
>
> I have not yet needed to make a cable for my own use.  But I've made a
> bunch for other folks,
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> MONTAC Enterprises
> [phone]
>
> On 4/18/2017 10:58 PM, Christopher Hoover wrote:
> >> The TMP cables were in the way and sub-receiver box was a bit difficult
> >> getting the SUBIN and SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.
> >
> > I installed mine myself too.    (And I just r/r recently with the addition
> > of the gen coverage bp filters on the main board.)   It is certainly
> > fiddly.  The mechanical design leaves much to be desired.
> >
> > 73, Christopher  AI6KG.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 4:27 AM, wa9fvp <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:20:36 +0000
> From: George Thornton <[hidden email]>
> To: Clay Autery <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]"
> <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
> Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I have built several kits of all kinds going back to Heathkit days and I built my own K2.
>
> I had a lot of problems with the sub-Rx installation.  I have big hands and could not seem to be able to see to line things up properly, not to mention the pesky TMP connectors.
>
> I am at the point with this where I will no longer attempt any mod that requires removal of the Sub-Rx.  Everything goes back to the factory.
>
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:08 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
>
> Funny.... IMO, some of the best design work I've ever seen....
> especially considering the package volume vs. modularity and capability.
>
> However, I WILL confess....
>
> I now own my own TMP tool, TMP connectors, coax stock, and assorted
> second end connectors in case I need/want to make one of those cables...
>
> I have not yet needed to make a cable for my own use. But I've made a
> bunch for other folks,
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> MONTAC Enterprises
> [phone]
>
> On 4/18/2017 10:58 PM, Christopher Hoover wrote:
> >> The TMP cables were in the way and sub-receiver box was a bit difficult
> >> getting the SUBIN and SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.
> >
> > I installed mine myself too. (And I just r/r recently with the addition
> > of the gen coverage bp filters on the main board.) It is certainly
> > fiddly. The mechanical design leaves much to be desired.
> >
> > 73, Christopher AI6KG.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 4:27 AM, wa9fvp <[hidden email]><mailto:[hidden email]%3e> wrote:
> ______________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:51:43 -0400
> From: "Bob Novas" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
> Message-ID: <00e801d2b946$5eec4f00$1cc4ed00$@verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Messing with the sub-receiver is such a PITA that I will procrastinate
> putting a new filter in for weeks before I gather the courage to pull it
> apart.  
>
> Bob W3DK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of George
> Thornton
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 3:21 PM
> To: Clay Autery; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
>
> I have built several kits of all kinds going back to Heathkit days and I
> built my own K2.
>
> I had a lot of problems with the sub-Rx installation.  I have big hands and
> could not seem to be able to see to line things up properly, not to mention
> the pesky TMP connectors.
>
> I am at the point with this where I will no longer attempt any mod that
> requires removal of the Sub-Rx.  Everything goes back to the factory.
>
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Clay
> Autery
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:08 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
>
> Funny.... IMO, some of the best design work I've ever seen....
> especially considering the package volume vs. modularity and capability.
>
> However, I WILL confess....
>
> I now own my own TMP tool, TMP connectors, coax stock, and assorted second
> end connectors in case I need/want to make one of those cables...
>
> I have not yet needed to make a cable for my own use. But I've made a bunch
> for other folks,
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> MONTAC Enterprises
> [phone]
>
> On 4/18/2017 10:58 PM, Christopher Hoover wrote:
> >> The TMP cables were in the way and sub-receiver box was a bit
> >> difficult getting the SUBIN and SUBOUT boards to align and mate properly.
> >
> > I installed mine myself too. (And I just r/r recently with the
> > addition of the gen coverage bp filters on the main board.) It is
> > certainly fiddly. The mechanical design leaves much to be desired.
> >
> > 73, Christopher AI6KG.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 4:27 AM, wa9fvp
> <[hidden email]><mailto:[hidden email]%3e> wrote:
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>
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:17:00 -0400
> From: Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> > Messing with the sub-receiver is such a PITA that I will procrastinate
> > putting a new filter in for weeks before I gather the courage to pull it
> > apart.  
>
> I can't see spending the money for shipping and insurance, not to mention factory charges for relatively simple work, over fear of the sub receiver.
>
> I've had mine in and out ( and in and out and ...) a bunch over the years and, while it might seem fiddly without a bit of patience and due care, never had a real issue with it.  It's always seemed to drop right in.  Had it out a few weeks ago for the 'n'th time to put the LF receive mods in.
>
> Or maybe I've just had a lot of practice ? :)
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:33:20 -0400
> From: "Bob Novas" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
> Message-ID: <00ec01d2b94c$2ef70780$8ce51680$@verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Well, I guess my point is, it would be nice if it were less fiddly and more
> "elegant".  A modular radio that came apart with a lot less fuss.  Plugin
> boards.  It's a packaging problem.  
>
> I love operating the radio.  I'm just not keen on maintaining it.
>
> Bob - W3DK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Grant
> Youngman
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 4:17 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
>
>
> > Messing with the sub-receiver is such a PITA that I will procrastinate
> > putting a new filter in for weeks before I gather the courage to pull
> > it apart.
>
> I can't see spending the money for shipping and insurance, not to mention
> factory charges for relatively simple work, over fear of the sub receiver.
>
> I've had mine in and out ( and in and out and ...) a bunch over the years
> and, while it might seem fiddly without a bit of patience and due care,
> never had a real issue with it.  It's always seemed to drop right in.  Had
> it out a few weeks ago for the 'n'th time to put the LF receive mods in.
>
> Or maybe I've just had a lot of practice ? :)
>
> Grant NQ5T
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> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 13:36:59 -0700
> From: Rick Tavan <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Main Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote: RRC Device drivers under Windows 10
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> On my Win 7 machine, the RemoteRig box presents three (maybe four) virtual COM ports that identify themselves as Microbit Virtual COM ports in the Device Manager Ports listing. I just set up a Win 10 machine and the virtual ports materialize when I plug in the RRC-1258, but they appear as generic ports with Microsoft drivers. I don't know how to get the Fabula Tech drivers to come in as replacements. Do you?
>
> Thanks,
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:37:23 -0400
> From: Scott Russell <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Wish List
> Message-ID:
> <CABDoXRLu76SDMxWLrwxcSkQTw04Tdn8y6seLKAq4ow=[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> - The ability to add Center to one of the FN buttons.
>
> - Programmable band edge indicators. Could be like the MKRA and B lines
> down the display but a different color, like red. Also the ability to add
> band edge to the FN buttons.
>
> - More color options for the waterfall
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Scott Russell, N1SER
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:47:15 -0600
> From: "M. George" <[hidden email]>
> To: Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Mailer <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
> Message-ID:
> <CAFYRpHteaXcjkpjFZ7yU8WEu+xKCFVaJsVBaKwMBAV=[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I don't see what all the consternation is about either.  Its not that big
> of a deal and I have the K3XREF (a little less room) in a K3s and a K3 and
> both radios have the sub receiver.  Fiddly???
> <https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=fiddly>
> really?
> I don't think so.  You need to consider the design!  This isn't a 60lb
> transceiver we are talking about that you can't upgrade hardly at all.
> The foot print and weight as compared to the performance can't be beat and
> the modular design is very impressive.  It's a portable radio!  For real!
> And if you want to talk PITA, try rolling a 60 lb radio around to remove
> this, that or the other.
>
> Taking out a couple of screws and gently lifting up the sub receiver and
> remove the coax connections?  Sheesh... it's like it was the end of the
> world or something.  Take a few pictures with your phone and take your time
> and RTFM!.  Its not like there is a need to remove the sub receiver on a
> weekly basis.  I swear, I think if you were to give a $20 bill to some
> folks, they would complain that you didn't give them two $10 bills. :)
>  Just take your time and install things back again and refer to your
> pictures from your phone and did I mention RTFM?.  And on another note the
> sub receiver as installed is solid and sound mechanically IMHO.
>
> Maybe if I was 99 years old and my fingers were the size of uncooked
> bratwursts and my thumbs were the size of cucumbers, then it would be
> Fiddly (and I chewed my thumb and finger nails profusely).  I say move on
> folks!  Off my soab box... it's getting Fiddly
> <https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=fiddly>up
> here!
>
> Max NG7M
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:09:57 -0700
> From: Fred Jensen <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote: RRC Device drivers under Windows 10
> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> My desktop ["The Big Computer"] runs Win10 Pro, and does exactly what
> you describe.  The 4 RRC virtual ports show up in Device Mangler, but
> are not identified as originating in the RRC box.  On the laptop [Win10
> Home], they carry the RRC label.
>
> Since they show up sequentially on the laptop where they are identified,
> I assumed the same for the Win10 Pro machine and got N1MM working.  I
> don't know how to force Win10 Pro to replace drivers, it just tells me
> mine are up-to-date.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> Sparks NV USA
> Washoe County DM09dn
>
> On 4/19/2017 1:36 PM, Rick Tavan wrote:
> > On my Win 7 machine, the RemoteRig box presents three (maybe four)
> > virtual COM ports that identify themselves as Microbit Virtual COM
> > ports in the Device Manager Ports listing. I just set up a Win 10
> > machine and the virtual ports materialize when I plug in the RRC-1258,
> > but they appear as generic ports with Microsoft drivers. I don't know
> > how to get the Fabula Tech drivers to come in as replacements. Do you?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > /Rick N6XI
>
>
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> Message: 26
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:25:40 -0400
> From: Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]>
> To: "M. George" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Grant Youngman <[hidden email]>, Elecraft Mailer
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3
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> I get the "big hands in small spaces" complaint. I have very small
> hands and can do some stuff that some of my friends just simply cannot
> do. On the other hand there is no way I can swing a sledge hammer on a
> ground rod like they can.
>
> Ham friends that you can bribe with 807's and a backyard grill steak
> dinner are very cool.
>
> 73, Guy K2AV
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:47 PM, M. George <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I don't see what all the consternation is about either.  Its not that big
> > of a deal and I have the K3XREF (a little less room) in a K3s and a K3 and
> > both radios have the sub receiver.  Fiddly???
> > <https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=fiddly>
> > really?
> > I don't think so.  You need to consider the design!  This isn't a 60lb
> > transceiver we are talking about that you can't upgrade hardly at all.
> > The foot print and weight as compared to the performance can't be beat and
> > the modular design is very impressive.  It's a portable radio!  For real!
> > And if you want to talk PITA, try rolling a 60 lb radio around to remove
> > this, that or the other.
> >
> > Taking out a couple of screws and gently lifting up the sub receiver and
> > remove the coax connections?  Sheesh... it's like it was the end of the
> > world or something.  Take a few pictures with your phone and take your time
> > and RTFM!.  Its not like there is a need to remove the sub receiver on a
> > weekly basis.  I swear, I think if you were to give a $20 bill to some
> > folks, they would complain that you didn't give them two $10 bills. :)
> >  Just take your time and install things back again and refer to your
> > pictures from your phone and did I mention RTFM?.  And on another note the
> > sub receiver as installed is solid and sound mechanically IMHO.
> >
> > Maybe if I was 99 years old and my fingers were the size of uncooked
> > bratwursts and my thumbs were the size of cucumbers, then it would be
> > Fiddly (and I chewed my thumb and finger nails profusely).  I say move on
> > folks!  Off my soab box... it's getting Fiddly
> > <https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=fiddly>up
> > here!
> >
> > Max NG7M
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