Re: radios on networks
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Especially in light of end-user products like this:
http://www.eltima.com/products/serial-over-ethernet/ There are a lot of them out there. Google "serial-over-ethernet". Matt Zilmer WA6EGJ K2 s/n 2810 > I think Elecraft missed an opportunity in the design of the K3 > regarding networking. (Ian) > I don't know that I would jump to that conclusion. Given that the K3 can be fully controlled via the serial port, it would surprise me if an ethernet adapter was not a planned future offering - but better to get the base rig on the market, don't you think? 73 - jeff wk6i _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Try this too:
http://www.barcode-manufacturer.com/serial-ethernet/serial-ethernet_converter.html#100mbps_115 matt WA6EGJ == On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:17:33 -0700, you wrote: >Especially in light of end-user products like this: >http://www.eltima.com/products/serial-over-ethernet/ > >There are a lot of them out there. Google "serial-over-ethernet". > >Matt Zilmer >WA6EGJ >K2 s/n 2810 > >> I think Elecraft missed an opportunity in the design of the K3 >> regarding networking. (Ian) >> >I don't know that I would jump to that conclusion. Given that the K3 >can be fully controlled via the serial port, it would surprise me if >an ethernet adapter was not a planned future offering - but >better to get the base rig on the market, don't you think? > >73 - jeff wk6i > > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Matthew Zilmer
However - when there is significant latency present (round-trip time for a
data packet) this approach will not always be optimal. When latency is an issue the software developer must be aware of this - it's not always possible to overcome latency purely in the UI, myself I use an intelligent agent on a remote Windows system. Given the low cost of new PCs and especially laptops I would always take the remote PC approach, the remote PC being able to provide audio routing and streaming as well. In fact I will be taking this approach when driving a 10m dish later this year. Simon Brown, HB9DRV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Zilmer" <[hidden email]> Especially in light of end-user products like this: http://www.eltima.com/products/serial-over-ethernet/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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As I mentioned earlier, I have been doing this with all my shack
equipment for many years... it is nothing new. The devices required to do it were mainly invented for the Point Of Purchase (cash registers, credit card readers) and industrial control markets. My units are all Lantronix, but another popular brand is Digi. They range from embedded PCBs to converters in a socket to multiport boxes. I have one I bought on ebay which provides 8 serial ports from one ethernet port, and cost me $30. I like this approach for remote control because it eliminates the PC and its maintenance. There are also inexpensive devices to provide streaming VoIP over ethernet from companies like Sippura and Cisco, using "analog telephone adapters" aimed at the Vonage type internet phone market. This allows a remote setup with just a router and broadband modem of some sort. The rig, rotator and other equipment appear as remote "virtual" com ports over the internet. As Simon pointed out, latency can be an issue... especially with Yaesu rigs, but my experience with Kenwood/Elecraft has been fine. Using a PC as the remote host also works fine and many people use both types of systems now... but either way, a serial port on the rig is a perfectly good, simple and reliable way to interface the rig. 73, Larry N8LP Matthew Zilmer wrote: > Try this too: > http://www.barcode-manufacturer.com/serial-ethernet/serial-ethernet_converter.html#100mbps_115 > > matt > WA6EGJ > > > == > > On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:17:33 -0700, you wrote: > > >> Especially in light of end-user products like this: >> http://www.eltima.com/products/serial-over-ethernet/ >> >> There are a lot of them out there. Google "serial-over-ethernet". >> >> Matt Zilmer >> WA6EGJ >> K2 s/n 2810 >> >> >>> I think Elecraft missed an opportunity in the design of the K3 >>> regarding networking. (Ian) >>> >>> >> I don't know that I would jump to that conclusion. Given that the K3 >> can be fully controlled via the serial port, it would surprise me if >> an ethernet adapter was not a planned future offering - but >> better to get the base rig on the market, don't you think? >> >> 73 - jeff wk6i >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Larry Phipps wrote:
> I like this approach for remote control because it eliminates the PC and its > maintenance. There are also inexpensive devices to provide streaming VoIP > over ethernet from companies like Sippura and Cisco, using "analog telephone > adapters" aimed at the Vonage type internet phone market. This allows a > remote setup with just a router and broadband modem of some sort. The rig, > rotator and other equipment appear as remote "virtual" com ports over the > internet. As someone who knows nothing about the stuff you've mentioned, and therefore even less about remote control, it strikes me that a How To could be of great benefit to those of us that are faced with the serial radio and the USB ported computer. My experience with the USB to anything converters, dongles, prayer wheels and incense burners has been less than satisfactory. I would be grateful to read more about it, as it may give me yet another tool in the fight against technology. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer Buggy Whips and Luddite appliances www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Available on my website. I also wrote an article in QST a couple years
ago about it (Oct. 2005). Larry N8LP www.telepostinc.com Thom LaCosta wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Larry Phipps wrote: > >> I like this approach for remote control because it eliminates the PC >> and its maintenance. There are also inexpensive devices to provide >> streaming VoIP over ethernet from companies like Sippura and Cisco, >> using "analog telephone adapters" aimed at the Vonage type internet >> phone market. This allows a remote setup with just a router and >> broadband modem of some sort. The rig, rotator and other equipment >> appear as remote "virtual" com ports over the internet. > > As someone who knows nothing about the stuff you've mentioned, and > therefore even less about remote control, it strikes me that a How To > could be of great benefit to those of us that are faced with the > serial radio and the USB ported computer. My experience with the USB > to anything converters, dongles, prayer wheels and incense burners has > been less than satisfactory. > > I would be grateful to read more about it, as it may give me yet > another tool in the fight against technology. > > Thom,EIEIO > Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer > Buggy Whips and Luddite appliances > > www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon > www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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