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Mike Reublin

Re: test

3rd attempt . I dunno what's going on here.

So I went to work some RTTY today using MMTTY with the K3, and can't get it to
transmit. I'm using AFSK A, 45 baud, the mark and space freqs are the same in the
program and the rig, the correct sound card is selected, nothing is muted, VOX is on.
MMTTY is set to use sound.

The MMTTY tuning indicator looks like I'm transmitting, but the rig isn't getting the
sound - no diddle. The K3 meter bars all go blank.

What am I missing? RX is fine.

73, Mike NF4L

On 7/8/2011 6:08 PM, Mike wrote:

> Trying to troubleshoot email glitch.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
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Tony Estep

Re: test

...the rig isn't getting the sound - no diddle.

Well, Mike, when it happened to me it was becuz I had the rig in Split and
it refused to transmit RTTY in CW mode. Probably not your case, but worth a
look.

Tony KT0NY
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: test

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Mike,

We need more information - there are a lot of possibilities.

It sounds like you do not have enough audio drive to the K3.

How have you connected to the K3?
Are you connecting to the K3 Line-in from the soundcard Line-out?
Are you using an interface box or just a soundcard?
If you are using an interface box, have you configured it for line level
output - most come configured for microphone level which is a much lower
AF voltage than line level.

You must drive the audio to the K3 sufficiently high to produce 4 bars
on the ALC meter with the 5th bar flashing. Ignore the common advice
(valid for other radios) to use the audio level to produce your desired
output - with the K3, set the power level with the power knob and adjust
the audio drive to produce the 4 to 5 bars of ALC indication.

There is a separate Line-in selection setting for the K3 in the menu.
Adjust the level with the "MIC" knob.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/8/2011 6:30 PM, Mike wrote:

> 3rd attempt . I dunno what's going on here.
>
> So I went to work some RTTY today using MMTTY with the K3, and can't get it to
> transmit. I'm using AFSK A, 45 baud, the mark and space freqs are the same in the
> program and the rig, the correct sound card is selected, nothing is muted, VOX is on.
> MMTTY is set to use sound.
>
> The MMTTY tuning indicator looks like I'm transmitting, but the rig isn't getting the
> sound - no diddle. The K3 meter bars all go blank.
>
> What am I missing? RX is fine.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 7/8/2011 6:08 PM, Mike wrote:
>> Trying to troubleshoot email glitch.
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
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Dave Hachadorian

Re: test

In reply to this post by Mike Reublin

When you get in a situation like this, where ssb voicekeying is
not working, or afsk diddle isn't diddling, it is helpful to
temporarily plug some headphones into the sound card output. If
you can hear the sound, then the problem is further downstream.
If you can't hear the sound, the problem is in the computer.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] test

3rd attempt . I dunno what's going on here.

So I went to work some RTTY today using MMTTY with the K3, and
can't get it to
transmit. I'm using AFSK A, 45 baud, the mark and space freqs are
the same in the
program and the rig, the correct sound card is selected, nothing
is muted, VOX is on.
MMTTY is set to use sound.

The MMTTY tuning indicator looks like I'm transmitting, but the
rig isn't getting the
sound - no diddle. The K3 meter bars all go blank.

What am I missing? RX is fine.

73, Mike NF4L

On 7/8/2011 6:08 PM, Mike wrote:

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Mike Reublin

Re: test

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Good thought Tony, but not my case.

73, Mike NF4L

On 7/8/2011 6:37 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

> ...the rig isn't getting the sound - no diddle.
>
> Well, Mike, when it happened to me it was becuz I had the rig in Split and
> it refused to transmit RTTY in CW mode. Probably not your case, but worth a
> look.
>
> Tony KT0NY
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Mike Reublin

Re: test

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Hi Don -

I'm going from the soundcard (it's USB) out to the K3 line-in. And last time I used
it it worked fine, PSK doesn't xmit either.

No interface, just the soundcard.

I can't get any alc reading, the rig doesn't go into xmit. By "audio drive" I take it
you mean then "Mic" knob. My line-in level is 23. I get an alc reading in SSB, but
not data. If I plug fones into the sound card, it is making the tones.

I don't see a Line-in menu setting. There is a MIC SEL that's set to Line-In.

73, Mike NF4L

On 7/8/2011 6:50 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Mike,
>
> We need more information - there are a lot of possibilities.
>
> It sounds like you do not have enough audio drive to the K3.
>
> How have you connected to the K3?
> Are you connecting to the K3 Line-in from the soundcard Line-out?
> Are you using an interface box or just a soundcard?
> If you are using an interface box, have you configured it for line level output -
> most come configured for microphone level which is a much lower AF voltage than
> line level.
>
> You must drive the audio to the K3 sufficiently high to produce 4 bars on the ALC
> meter with the 5th bar flashing. Ignore the common advice (valid for other radios)
> to use the audio level to produce your desired output - with the K3, set the power
> level with the power knob and adjust the audio drive to produce the 4 to 5 bars of
> ALC indication.
>
> There is a separate Line-in selection setting for the K3 in the menu. Adjust the
> level with the "MIC" knob.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/8/2011 6:30 PM, Mike wrote:
>> 3rd attempt . I dunno what's going on here.
>>
>> So I went to work some RTTY today using MMTTY with the K3, and can't get it to
>> transmit. I'm using AFSK A, 45 baud, the mark and space freqs are the same in the
>> program and the rig, the correct sound card is selected, nothing is muted, VOX is on.
>> MMTTY is set to use sound.
>>
>> The MMTTY tuning indicator looks like I'm transmitting, but the rig isn't getting the
>> sound - no diddle. The K3 meter bars all go blank.
>>
>> What am I missing? RX is fine.
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>
>> On 7/8/2011 6:08 PM, Mike wrote:
>>> Trying to troubleshoot email glitch.
>>>
>>> 73, Mike NF4L
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Mike Reublin

Re: test

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Thanks, Dave -

The sound card is producing the tones. They're just not getting to the radio.

73, Mike

On 7/8/2011 6:50 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

> When you get in a situation like this, where ssb voicekeying is not working, or
> afsk diddle isn't diddling, it is helpful to temporarily plug some headphones into
> the sound card output. If you can hear the sound, then the problem is further
> downstream. If you can't hear the sound, the problem is in the computer.
>
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Big Bear Lake, CA
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mike
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:30 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] test
>
> 3rd attempt . I dunno what's going on here.
>
> So I went to work some RTTY today using MMTTY with the K3, and can't get it to
> transmit. I'm using AFSK A, 45 baud, the mark and space freqs are the same in the
> program and the rig, the correct sound card is selected, nothing is muted, VOX is on.
> MMTTY is set to use sound.
>
> The MMTTY tuning indicator looks like I'm transmitting, but the rig isn't getting the
> sound - no diddle. The K3 meter bars all go blank.
>
> What am I missing? RX is fine.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 7/8/2011 6:08 PM, Mike wrote:
>> Trying to troubleshoot email glitch.
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: test

In reply to this post by Mike Reublin

Mike,

If the K3 is not going into transmit, do you have the VOX set on for
AFSK-A mode? If you chose not to do that, you will have to use the "one
transistor circuit" from a serial port to activate the K3 PTT.

There are audio level controls in the computer too - right click on the
speaker icon (assuming it is displayed) to open them, otherwise go to
the Control Panel to adjust them. Set the Line-out level to about 2/3
of full slider. Be sure the Line Out is not muted.

Yes, the Mic Sel setting of Line-in is what I was referring to.

On 7/8/2011 7:16 PM, Mike wrote:

> Hi Don -
>
> I'm going from the soundcard (it's USB) out to the K3 line-in. And
> last time I used it it worked fine, PSK doesn't xmit either.
>
> No interface, just the soundcard.
>
> I can't get any alc reading, the rig doesn't go into xmit. By "audio
> drive" I take it you mean then "Mic" knob. My line-in level is 23. I
> get an alc reading in SSB, but not data. If I plug fones into the
> sound card, it is making the tones.
>
> I don't see a Line-in menu setting. There is a MIC SEL that's set to
> Line-In.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 7/8/2011 6:50 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> We need more information - there are a lot of possibilities.
>>
>> It sounds like you do not have enough audio drive to the K3.
>>
>> How have you connected to the K3?
>> Are you connecting to the K3 Line-in from the soundcard Line-out?
>> Are you using an interface box or just a soundcard?
>> If you are using an interface box, have you configured it for line
>> level output - most come configured for microphone level which is a
>> much lower AF voltage than line level.
>>
>> You must drive the audio to the K3 sufficiently high to produce 4
>> bars on the ALC meter with the 5th bar flashing. Ignore the common
>> advice (valid for other radios) to use the audio level to produce
>> your desired output - with the K3, set the power level with the power
>> knob and adjust the audio drive to produce the 4 to 5 bars of ALC
>> indication.
>>
>> There is a separate Line-in selection setting for the K3 in the
>> menu. Adjust the level with the "MIC" knob.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 7/8/2011 6:30 PM, Mike wrote:
>>> 3rd attempt . I dunno what's going on here.
>>>
>>> So I went to work some RTTY today using MMTTY with the K3, and can't
>>> get it to
>>> transmit. I'm using AFSK A, 45 baud, the mark and space freqs are
>>> the same in the
>>> program and the rig, the correct sound card is selected, nothing is
>>> muted, VOX is on.
>>> MMTTY is set to use sound.
>>>
>>> The MMTTY tuning indicator looks like I'm transmitting, but the rig
>>> isn't getting the
>>> sound - no diddle. The K3 meter bars all go blank.
>>>
>>> What am I missing? RX is fine.
>>>
>>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>>
>>> On 7/8/2011 6:08 PM, Mike wrote:
>>>> Trying to troubleshoot email glitch.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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