"Real" CW

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[Vic K2VCO]

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> The speeds and procedure is typical of commercial shipboard operations.
> Those interested in CW might enjoy noting the speeds involved. Many Hams
> would consider that slow. At the end you'll hear the coastal station go back
> to it's "CQ Wheel" inviting ships to call. That's automated and faster -
> about 20 wpm. But traffic handling speeds are typically much slower as
> demonstrated here. Commercial operators know that slower speeds overall
> meant faster communications since fewer fills (repeats) are needed.

Note how the operator uses QSK to get his fills efficiently. Maybe the
coastal station even ran full duplex, which is possible when the
transmitter is located miles from the receiving site. Now that is the
ultimate in QSK -- even the K3 can't do it!
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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[k6dgw]

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> And lastly, that is a pre-computer state-of-the-art manual message printing
> system the operator uses to create hard copy. We called 'em "typewriters".

Some of us called them "mills."  Passed up a chance to get one ... too
many kids in the house at the time so not enough money :-(  The KSM
story is at www.radiomarine.org

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party  3-4 Oct 2008
- www.cqp.org
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[w7aqk]

Actually, I think they were called "mils"--only 1 "L".  They were much like
a standard typewriter, but only had capital letters--no switching from lower
to upper case.  They looked a lot like the old Underwoods you often see.  I
used them quite a bit in the Army.  There may have been a shift key for some
punctuation (I honestly can't remember), but I think standard punctuation
was available on separate keys.  Although typing was not a skill we taught
in radio school,  most of the CW operators rapidly acquired a reasonable
dexterity with a mil, even if it was "two fingered".  Fortunately, I took
typing in high school, so using a mil was not difficult for me.  We required
a mil to be used for copying messages in the Berlin radio room so that the
message would be readable (we didn't teach penmanship either!).  Since the
advent of computers, these have surely become relics.  However, you will see
one advertised for sale now and then.

Dave W7AQK


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "Real" CW

> Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>
>> And lastly, that is a pre-computer state-of-the-art manual message
>> printing
>> system the operator uses to create hard copy. We called 'em
>> "typewriters".
>
> Some of us called them "mills."  Passed up a chance to get one ... too
> many kids in the house at the time so not enough money :-(  The KSM story
> is at www.radiomarine.org
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party  3-4 Oct 2008
> - www.cqp.org
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[Ken Kopp-3]

One of the ships I sailed on had the RO's desk athwart
of the ship, so when she rolled the carriage would take
"excursions".  In rough seas one had to type one-handed
in order to hold the carriage. (:-)  And it -was- an all-caps
machine.

A necessary adjunct to the desk was a pair of large hooks
that mated with eyes on the end of the chair arms so it could
be "restrained" in rough seas.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[k6dgw]

Ken Kopp wrote:

> ships I sailed on had the RO's desk athwart
> of the ship, so when she rolled the carriage would take
> "excursions".  In rough seas one had to type one-handed in order to hold
> the carriage. (:-)  And it -was- an all-caps machine.

Our only "rolling" problem stemmed from So. California earthquakes :-)
Our mills were open frame Underwood's, all caps, with a handful of
barred prosigns.  I think BT and AR were two of them but memory fades
after 51 years.  INT and IMI might have been there as well [whatever
happened to INT?].  Punctuation was pretty limited and I don't recall
ever using it much.

Two K3 questions:

What does the K3 output on RTTY or PSK31 when you send BT or AR with the
paddle?  Maybe I can monitor with the K2 and try it out if I can get the
K2 to talk to the laptop.

In TEXT DECODE, is there an option to get the decoded text to come out
the RS-232 connector as ASCII?

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party  3-4 Oct 2008
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