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Rear Mike Jack Question

N4ZR
Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with
my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and
feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.  This worked fine for a couple of
weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my
radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS,
which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp
to full output.  When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem
goes away.

Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure in
the mike?

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Re: Rear Mike Jack Question

Buck
I would suspect a Windoze update scrambled your sound assignments.  Go
back and check all your settings.

k4ia, Buck
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On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote:

> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with
> my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and
> feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.  This worked fine for a couple of
> weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my
> radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS,
> which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp
> to full output.  When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem
> goes away.
>
> Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure in
> the mike?
>
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Re: Rear Mike Jack Question

Don Wilhelm
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Set MIC SEL to RPL BIAS.  You do not need the high gain amp with that
mic.  It is likely producing feedback as you have it set.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote:
> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with
> my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and
> feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.  This worked fine for a couple of
> weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my
> radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS,
> which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp
> to full output.  When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem
> goes away.
>
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Re: Rear Mike Jack Question

Andrew Hebden
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Hi,
Sounds a bit like RF getting into the mic line. Does it happen when running into a dummy load?
I use a Koss headset like this with no problems.

Andrew G8BYB

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Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.  This worked fine for a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp to full output.  When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem goes away.

Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure in the mike?

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Re: Rear Mike Jack Question

Dave Erickson
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This just happened to me. I heard a screeching whine when hitting
transmit in ft8, turns out the recent update reset all my sound assignments.

73

On 8/23/2020 11:01 AM, Buck wrote:

> I would suspect a Windoze update scrambled your sound assignments.  Go
> back and check all your settings.
>
> k4ia, Buck
> K3s# 11497
> Honor Roll  8B DXCC
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>
> On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote:
>> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3
>> with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound
>> card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.  This worked fine for
>> a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white
>> noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC
>> SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain
>> setting over 7 drives the amp to full output.  When I pull the mike
>> plug out of the jack, the problem goes away.
>>
>> Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure
>> in the mike?
>>
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Re: Rear Mike Jack Question

Nr4c
A CM-500 does not need RPH bias mic settings it is a high output element and RPL bias will do fine with mic gain beteeen 10-20 (I use 17).

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> On Aug 23, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Dave Erickson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> This just happened to me. I heard a screeching whine when hitting transmit in ft8, turns out the recent update reset all my sound assignments.
>
> 73
>
>> On 8/23/2020 11:01 AM, Buck wrote:
>> I would suspect a Windoze update scrambled your sound assignments.  Go back and check all your settings.
>>
>> k4ia, Buck
>> K3s# 11497
>> Honor Roll  8B DXCC
>> EasyWayHamBooks.com
>>
>>> On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote:
>>> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3 with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.  This worked fine for a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud white noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC gain setting over 7 drives the amp to full output.  When I pull the mike plug out of the jack, the problem goes away.
>>>
>>> Have I inadvertently messed up another setting, or perhaps a failure in the mike?
>>>
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Re: Rear Mike Jack Question

N4ZR
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Egads, who knew? Clearly not me.  Of course, my K3 is relatively early,
and I didn't download the latest manual until this year.  Thanks, Don!

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On 8/23/2020 11:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Pete,
>
> Go to the MIC SEL menu and tap 1 to toggle between the high gain mic
> preamp and the low gain.
> See page 52 of a more recent manual.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 8/23/2020 9:55 PM, N4ZR wrote:
>>
>> Don, I do not have a RPL bias option under Mic Sel.  Only RPH, FPH
>> and Line IN
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
>> at<http://reversebeacon.net>, now
>> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
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>> "retail" DX cluster.
>> On 8/23/2020 12:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Set MIC SEL to RPL BIAS.  You do not need the high gain amp with
>>> that mic.  It is likely producing feedback as you have it set.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 8/23/2020 11:56 AM, N4ZR wrote:
>>>> Recently, I began trying to use the rear microphone jack on my K3
>>>> with my Yamaha boom mike, instead of using a stand-alone USB sound
>>>> card and feeding the signal to the LIN IN jack.  This worked fine
>>>> for a couple of weeks, but today when I tried it, I got very loud
>>>> white noise driving my radio and amp essentially to full scale. I
>>>> have MIC SEL set to RPH BIAS, which has worked in the past. Any MIC
>>>> gain setting over 7 drives the amp to full output.  When I pull the
>>>> mike plug out of the jack, the problem goes away.
>>>>
>
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Re: Rear Mike Jack Question

Barry
On a semi-related note, I don't understand why manufacturers continue to put
a mic jack, with its overly bulky mating connector, on the front panel.  It
always gets in the way.

Barry W21UP



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