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KE8G
Hi All,
I seem to be having a problem with my RemoteRig operation.  Everything worked perfectly when I initially set it up.  While at the remote QTH, the only change I made was to add the newest firmware to the K3.  I have not updated the firmware at the K3 control station, would this cause a problem?  

I had a person tell me the rig sounds like it has a "defect."

Looking at things from the control end, the KAT500 & KPA500 both appear fine, no changes in SWR or power output.

Any ideas?

73 de Jim - KE8G
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Re: Remote operation question

Mitch Wolfson, DJØQN / K7DX
Jim,

To be able to find the problem, you will need to add some details as to
what the "defect" sounds like. There are many possibilities and we need
more details. The new firmware should not necessarily cause a problem,
but may if the difference between the two RRC's is significant. There is
no reason not to update the control RRC and see if that solves the problem.

I also recommend that you repost this on the RemoteRig forum
http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php if the firmware update does not
solve this to receive a response from the developers if needed.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

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On 05.08.2014 04:22, Jim - KE8G wrote:

> Hi All,
> I seem to be having a problem with my RemoteRig operation.  Everything worked perfectly when I initially set it up.  While at the remote QTH, the only change I made was to add the newest firmware to the K3.  I have not updated the firmware at the K3 control station, would this cause a problem?
>
> I had a person tell me the rig sounds like it has a "defect."
>
> Looking at things from the control end, the KAT500 & KPA500 both appear fine, no changes in SWR or power output.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> 73 de Jim - KE8G
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Re: Remote operation question

KE8G
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Well, the unfortunate part is that the only description I got was the radio sounded like it has a defect, nothing more and the fellow was gone.  If someone would like to setup a sked to have a listen, that would be great.  It would have to be a CW sked, as I do not have a mic.

To update everyone commenting, I have updated the K3 firmware at the control end, so both are now at the same level.  The firmware on the RemoteRig units are identical, no changes had been made there.  The coax for the remote station is all new 400Max series fromDXEngineering, which was thoroughly tested when installed two months ago.

I will update the RemoteRig firmware at both sites and see if that changes anything.

Thanks all for you comments!
73 de Jim - KE8G

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> On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Mike va3mw <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> What is the actual problem?  Defect doesn't really describe anything.
>
> I would check the readme and see if both ends need to be updated. I would suspect so.  Why not upgrade the other end just to be sure.
>
> Btw, SWR being good or bad won't really tell you much other than if your coax is presenting a 50 ohm load. It certainly won't create a bad audio situation.
>
> Mike va3mw
>
>
>
>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jim - KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I seem to be having a problem with my RemoteRig operation.  Everything worked perfectly when I initially set it up.  While at the remote QTH, the only change I made was to add the newest firmware to the K3.  I have not updated the firmware at the K3 control station, would this cause a problem?  
>>
>> I had a person tell me the rig sounds like it has a "defect."
>>
>> Looking at things from the control end, the KAT500 & KPA500 both appear fine, no changes in SWR or power output.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> 73 de Jim - KE8G
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Re: Remote operation question

KE8G
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I now see I have an error message on the remote side:
Saved error message:
Data Abort at 0x00043114, called by 0x000437ac

Any ideas?


---- KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Well, the unfortunate part is that the only description I got was the radio sounded like it has a defect, nothing more and the fellow was gone.  If someone would like to setup a sked to have a listen, that would be great.  It would have to be a CW sked, as I do not have a mic.
>
> To update everyone commenting, I have updated the K3 firmware at the control end, so both are now at the same level.  The firmware on the RemoteRig units are identical, no changes had been made there.  The coax for the remote station is all new 400Max series fromDXEngineering, which was thoroughly tested when installed two months ago.
>
> I will update the RemoteRig firmware at both sites and see if that changes anything.
>
> Thanks all for you comments!
> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Mike va3mw <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > What is the actual problem?  Defect doesn't really describe anything.
> >
> > I would check the readme and see if both ends need to be updated. I would suspect so.  Why not upgrade the other end just to be sure.
> >
> > Btw, SWR being good or bad won't really tell you much other than if your coax is presenting a 50 ohm load. It certainly won't create a bad audio situation.
> >
> > Mike va3mw
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jim - KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >> I seem to be having a problem with my RemoteRig operation.  Everything worked perfectly when I initially set it up.  While at the remote QTH, the only change I made was to add the newest firmware to the K3.  I have not updated the firmware at the K3 control station, would this cause a problem?  
> >>
> >> I had a person tell me the rig sounds like it has a "defect."
> >>
> >> Looking at things from the control end, the KAT500 & KPA500 both appear fine, no changes in SWR or power output.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> 73 de Jim - KE8G
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Re: Remote operation question

KE8G
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Okay, I have now updated the RemoteRig firmware at both the remote and control sites.


---- KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Well, the unfortunate part is that the only description I got was the radio sounded like it has a defect, nothing more and the fellow was gone.  If someone would like to setup a sked to have a listen, that would be great.  It would have to be a CW sked, as I do not have a mic.
>
> To update everyone commenting, I have updated the K3 firmware at the control end, so both are now at the same level.  The firmware on the RemoteRig units are identical, no changes had been made there.  The coax for the remote station is all new 400Max series fromDXEngineering, which was thoroughly tested when installed two months ago.
>
> I will update the RemoteRig firmware at both sites and see if that changes anything.
>
> Thanks all for you comments!
> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Mike va3mw <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > What is the actual problem?  Defect doesn't really describe anything.
> >
> > I would check the readme and see if both ends need to be updated. I would suspect so.  Why not upgrade the other end just to be sure.
> >
> > Btw, SWR being good or bad won't really tell you much other than if your coax is presenting a 50 ohm load. It certainly won't create a bad audio situation.
> >
> > Mike va3mw
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jim - KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >> I seem to be having a problem with my RemoteRig operation.  Everything worked perfectly when I initially set it up.  While at the remote QTH, the only change I made was to add the newest firmware to the K3.  I have not updated the firmware at the K3 control station, would this cause a problem?  
> >>
> >> I had a person tell me the rig sounds like it has a "defect."
> >>
> >> Looking at things from the control end, the KAT500 & KPA500 both appear fine, no changes in SWR or power output.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> 73 de Jim - KE8G
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Re: Remote operation question

Mitch Wolfson, DJØQN / K7DX
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Jim,

I highly suggest that you post this issue on the RemoteRig forum at
http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php for the RemoteRig developers to
answer. They do not read the Elecraft reflector.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

Mitch Wolfson
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On 05.08.2014 17:33, Jim - KE8G wrote:

> I now see I have an error message on the remote side:
> Saved error message:
> Data Abort at 0x00043114, called by 0x000437ac
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> ---- KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Well, the unfortunate part is that the only description I got was the radio sounded like it has a defect, nothing more and the fellow was gone.  If someone would like to setup a sked to have a listen, that would be great.  It would have to be a CW sked, as I do not have a mic.
>>
>> To update everyone commenting, I have updated the K3 firmware at the control end, so both are now at the same level.  The firmware on the RemoteRig units are identical, no changes had been made there.  The coax for the remote station is all new 400Max series fromDXEngineering, which was thoroughly tested when installed two months ago.
>>
>> I will update the RemoteRig firmware at both sites and see if that changes anything.
>>
>> Thanks all for you comments!
>> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Mike va3mw <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the actual problem?  Defect doesn't really describe anything.
>>>
>>> I would check the readme and see if both ends need to be updated. I would suspect so.  Why not upgrade the other end just to be sure.
>>>
>>> Btw, SWR being good or bad won't really tell you much other than if your coax is presenting a 50 ohm load. It certainly won't create a bad audio situation.
>>>
>>> Mike va3mw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jim - KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> I seem to be having a problem with my RemoteRig operation.  Everything worked perfectly when I initially set it up.  While at the remote QTH, the only change I made was to add the newest firmware to the K3.  I have not updated the firmware at the K3 control station, would this cause a problem?
>>>>
>>>> I had a person tell me the rig sounds like it has a "defect."
>>>>
>>>> Looking at things from the control end, the KAT500 & KPA500 both appear fine, no changes in SWR or power output.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: Remote operation question

KE8G
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Hi Mitch,
Yes, good idea!  I am also going to call Elecraft and speak with Brandon.  I tried that yesterday, but he had the day off.

As of now, firmware in both K3's are the same, firmware in both RemoteRig units is the same.

So, we will go from there.

thanks,
73 de Jim - KE8G
---- "Mitch Wolfson DJØQN" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> I highly suggest that you post this issue on the RemoteRig forum at
> http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php for the RemoteRig developers to
> answer. They do not read the Elecraft reflector.
>
> 73,
> Mitch DJ0QN
>
> Mitch Wolfson
> DJØQN / K7DX
> Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn
> Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436
> Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378
>
> On 05.08.2014 17:33, Jim - KE8G wrote:
> > I now see I have an error message on the remote side:
> > Saved error message:
> > Data Abort at 0x00043114, called by 0x000437ac
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> > ---- KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Well, the unfortunate part is that the only description I got was the radio sounded like it has a defect, nothing more and the fellow was gone.  If someone would like to setup a sked to have a listen, that would be great.  It would have to be a CW sked, as I do not have a mic.
> >>
> >> To update everyone commenting, I have updated the K3 firmware at the control end, so both are now at the same level.  The firmware on the RemoteRig units are identical, no changes had been made there.  The coax for the remote station is all new 400Max series fromDXEngineering, which was thoroughly tested when installed two months ago.
> >>
> >> I will update the RemoteRig firmware at both sites and see if that changes anything.
> >>
> >> Thanks all for you comments!
> >> 73 de Jim - KE8G
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Mike va3mw <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is the actual problem?  Defect doesn't really describe anything.
> >>>
> >>> I would check the readme and see if both ends need to be updated. I would suspect so.  Why not upgrade the other end just to be sure.
> >>>
> >>> Btw, SWR being good or bad won't really tell you much other than if your coax is presenting a 50 ohm load. It certainly won't create a bad audio situation.
> >>>
> >>> Mike va3mw
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Jim - KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>> I seem to be having a problem with my RemoteRig operation.  Everything worked perfectly when I initially set it up.  While at the remote QTH, the only change I made was to add the newest firmware to the K3.  I have not updated the firmware at the K3 control station, would this cause a problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> I had a person tell me the rig sounds like it has a "defect."
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking at things from the control end, the KAT500 & KPA500 both appear fine, no changes in SWR or power output.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 de Jim - KE8G
> >>>> ______________________________________________________________
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