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Jeff Griffin

Remoterig k3/0 mini questions

While waiting for Elecraft to get back to me on this I thought I would ask
here also.

Along with the issue of the K3/0 mini not powering the remote K3 on just
off, I noticed today that I can't get any audio drive out of the FP.L mic
sel, I only get audio out of the rP.L mic sel. This is no big deal as I'm
using a headset and can simply plug into the mic jack on the side of the
K3/0 mini, still using the PTT from the main 8 pin foster connector. This of
course would be a problem if I were to try using a desk mic. When I select
FP.L I get no drive audio in the side mic jack, so I guess the hardware is
ok. Anyone else seeing this behavior?
I setup the control 1258 to try and control my K3 tomorrow from my summer
home, that is 60 NMI away. I guess I will leave everything here at the
remote site powered on for the test.

73 and a HNY Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 16:31 PM
To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: [Elecraft] Remoterig k3/0 mini won't power up remote K3

I'm in the middle of setting up my K3 K3/0 mini Remoterig 1258 pair setup.
It's going well, I have most everything done at the remote site. I have
DXLab running on a laptop controlling the remote K3 via the control K3/0
mini. All I have left to do at the remote site is the cable mod for the
KPA500.
I have one issue. The control station powers down the K3 and KAT500, but
not the KPA500. This should work when I do the KPA500 cable mod. The issue
is that when I turn on the K3/0 mini it doesn't turn on the remote K3. I see
a config item for a Yaesu radio in the Microbit s/w, but not sure it's for
an Elecraft setup. Anyone have an answer to this problem? Any suggestions ?
Before I try remoting from another site I would like to be able to power the
remote equipment on and off...

73 Jeff kb2m

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Oliver Dröse

Re: Remoterig k3/0 mini questions

Hi Jeff,

what you configure has no influence on the K3/0 mini! Every single menu
item you change will only influence the remote K3 but not the control
side (as soon as they are connected *all* actions on the mini will only
have effect on the remote K3 ... that's how it is designed). So if you
change from rP.L (where the RemoteRig box is connected) to FP.L you
effectively take away the remote audio input to the remote K3. ;-)

The K3/0 mini is all hardwired! It seems the foster front panel
connector is wired for dynamic mics only. At least my Kenwood fist mike
which is a dynamic one works without any trouble there. The 3,5 mm
sockets in the mini's side can be configured for w/bias or w/o bias.
This is done by a jumper inside the remote head. Of course you could
also solder a small adapter for the foster that puts the 8 V available
on a separate pin as bias to the mic pin.

BTW: The foster mic socket in the mini will also automatically be
disabled as soon as you plug in something to the 3,5 mm mic jack! So
don't wonder ... ;-)

For PTT you can also use the PTT jack on the mini's backside (avoids
clutter on the front if you are using a headset anyway).

Hope that helps. Let me know if any other questions ... have been using
the mini for quite some time now ...

73, Olli - DH8BQA

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de

Am 29.12.2014 um 23:34 schrieb [hidden email]:

> While waiting for Elecraft to get back to me on this I thought I would ask
> here also.
>
> Along with the issue of the K3/0 mini not powering the remote K3 on just
> off, I noticed today that I can't get any audio drive out of the FP.L mic
> sel, I only get audio out of the rP.L mic sel. This is no big deal as I'm
> using a headset and can simply plug into the mic jack on the side of the
> K3/0 mini, still using the PTT from the main 8 pin foster connector. This of
> course would be a problem if I were to try using a desk mic. When I select
> FP.L I get no drive audio in the side mic jack, so I guess the hardware is
> ok. Anyone else seeing this behavior?
> I setup the control 1258 to try and control my K3 tomorrow from my summer
> home, that is 60 NMI away. I guess I will leave everything here at the
> remote site powered on for the test.
>
>
> 73 and a HNY Jeff kb2m
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> [hidden email]
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 16:31 PM
> To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
> Subject: [Elecraft] Remoterig k3/0 mini won't power up remote K3
>
> I'm in the middle of setting up my K3 K3/0 mini Remoterig 1258 pair setup.
> It's going well, I have most everything done at the remote site. I have
> DXLab running on a laptop controlling the remote K3 via the control K3/0
> mini. All I have left to do at the remote site is the cable mod for the
> KPA500.
> I have one issue. The control station powers down the K3 and KAT500, but
> not the KPA500. This should work when I do the KPA500 cable mod. The issue
> is that when I turn on the K3/0 mini it doesn't turn on the remote K3. I see
> a config item for a Yaesu radio in the Microbit s/w, but not sure it's for
> an Elecraft setup. Anyone have an answer to this problem? Any suggestions ?
> Before I try remoting from another site I would like to be able to power the
> remote equipment on and off...
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
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Jeff Griffin

Re: Remoterig k3/0 mini questions

First I must apologize for my multiple posts of the same message. I
recently moved and when I 'moved' my Comcast connection I've had nothing but
trouble with my email accounts. Long story...

Olli,

Thanks for the answer to one of my problems. I started to go through the
RemoteRig manual last night and I see there is a lot of information in the
220 page manual I need to know. The control K3/0 mini powering the remote
K3 off and not on is still a mystery I guess only Elecraft can answer...

73 and HNY Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Dröse [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 4:55 AM
To: [hidden email]; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remoterig k3/0 mini questions

Hi Jeff,

what you configure has no influence on the K3/0 mini! Every single menu item
you change will only influence the remote K3 but not the control side (as
soon as they are connected *all* actions on the mini will only have effect
on the remote K3 ... that's how it is designed). So if you change from rP.L
(where the RemoteRig box is connected) to FP.L you effectively take away the
remote audio input to the remote K3. ;-)

The K3/0 mini is all hardwired! It seems the foster front panel connector is
wired for dynamic mics only. At least my Kenwood fist mike which is a
dynamic one works without any trouble there. The 3,5 mm sockets in the
mini's side can be configured for w/bias or w/o bias.
This is done by a jumper inside the remote head. Of course you could also
solder a small adapter for the foster that puts the 8 V available on a
separate pin as bias to the mic pin.

BTW: The foster mic socket in the mini will also automatically be disabled
as soon as you plug in something to the 3,5 mm mic jack! So don't wonder ...
;-)

For PTT you can also use the PTT jack on the mini's backside (avoids clutter
on the front if you are using a headset anyway).

Hope that helps. Let me know if any other questions ... have been using the
mini for quite some time now ...

73, Olli - DH8BQA

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de

Am 29.12.2014 um 23:34 schrieb [hidden email]:

> While waiting for Elecraft to get back to me on this I thought I would
> ask here also.
>
> Along with the issue of the K3/0 mini not powering the remote K3 on
> just off, I noticed today that I can't get any audio drive out of the
> FP.L mic sel, I only get audio out of the rP.L mic sel. This is no big
> deal as I'm using a headset and can simply plug into the mic jack on
> the side of the
> K3/0 mini, still using the PTT from the main 8 pin foster connector.
> This of course would be a problem if I were to try using a desk mic.
> When I select FP.L I get no drive audio in the side mic jack, so I
> guess the hardware is ok. Anyone else seeing this behavior?
> I setup the control 1258 to try and control my K3 tomorrow from my
> summer home, that is 60 NMI away. I guess I will leave everything here
> at the remote site powered on for the test.
>
>
> 73 and a HNY Jeff kb2m
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> [hidden email]
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 16:31 PM
> To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
> Subject: [Elecraft] Remoterig k3/0 mini won't power up remote K3
>
> I'm in the middle of setting up my K3 K3/0 mini Remoterig 1258 pair

setup.
> It's going well, I have most everything done at the remote site. I
> have DXLab running on a laptop controlling the remote K3 via the
> control K3/0 mini. All I have left to do at the remote site is the
> cable mod for the KPA500.
> I have one issue. The control station powers down the K3 and KAT500,
> but not the KPA500. This should work when I do the KPA500 cable mod.
> The issue is that when I turn on the K3/0 mini it doesn't turn on the
> remote K3. I see a config item for a Yaesu radio in the Microbit s/w,
> but not sure it's for an Elecraft setup. Anyone have an answer to this
problem? Any suggestions ?

> Before I try remoting from another site I would like to be able to
> power the remote equipment on and off...
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
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Oliver Dröse

Re: Remoterig k3/0 mini questions

Jeff,

powering the remote K3 on/off should work automatically presuming you
have all the cables correct (the remote side RemoteRig box activates a
pin at the ACC connector for that ... if you're also using a
KPA500/KAT500 in the remote setup you might need to break up one line,
not sure anymore, it's been a while since I did it) as well as the
config on the RR boxes set correctly (there should be something like
K3-Twins or Elecraft-Twins or the like).

73, Olli

Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de

Am 30.12.2014 um 12:41 schrieb [hidden email]:

> First I must apologize for my multiple posts of the same message. I
> recently moved and when I 'moved' my Comcast connection I've had nothing but
> trouble with my email accounts. Long story...
>
> Olli,
>
> Thanks for the answer to one of my problems. I started to go through the
> RemoteRig manual last night and I see there is a lot of information in the
> 220 page manual I need to know. The control K3/0 mini powering the remote
> K3 off and not on is still a mystery I guess only Elecraft can answer...
>
>
> 73 and HNY Jeff kb2m
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oliver Dröse [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 4:55 AM
> To: [hidden email]; 'Elecraft Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remoterig k3/0 mini questions
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> what you configure has no influence on the K3/0 mini! Every single menu item
> you change will only influence the remote K3 but not the control side (as
> soon as they are connected *all* actions on the mini will only have effect
> on the remote K3 ... that's how it is designed). So if you change from rP.L
> (where the RemoteRig box is connected) to FP.L you effectively take away the
> remote audio input to the remote K3. ;-)
>
> The K3/0 mini is all hardwired! It seems the foster front panel connector is
> wired for dynamic mics only. At least my Kenwood fist mike which is a
> dynamic one works without any trouble there. The 3,5 mm sockets in the
> mini's side can be configured for w/bias or w/o bias.
> This is done by a jumper inside the remote head. Of course you could also
> solder a small adapter for the foster that puts the 8 V available on a
> separate pin as bias to the mic pin.
>
> BTW: The foster mic socket in the mini will also automatically be disabled
> as soon as you plug in something to the 3,5 mm mic jack! So don't wonder ...
> ;-)
>
> For PTT you can also use the PTT jack on the mini's backside (avoids clutter
> on the front if you are using a headset anyway).
>
> Hope that helps. Let me know if any other questions ... have been using the
> mini for quite some time now ...
>
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>
> Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
>
>
> Am 29.12.2014 um 23:34 schrieb [hidden email]:
>> While waiting for Elecraft to get back to me on this I thought I would
>> ask here also.
>>
>> Along with the issue of the K3/0 mini not powering the remote K3 on
>> just off, I noticed today that I can't get any audio drive out of the
>> FP.L mic sel, I only get audio out of the rP.L mic sel. This is no big
>> deal as I'm using a headset and can simply plug into the mic jack on
>> the side of the
>> K3/0 mini, still using the PTT from the main 8 pin foster connector.
>> This of course would be a problem if I were to try using a desk mic.
>> When I select FP.L I get no drive audio in the side mic jack, so I
>> guess the hardware is ok. Anyone else seeing this behavior?
>> I setup the control 1258 to try and control my K3 tomorrow from my
>> summer home, that is 60 NMI away. I guess I will leave everything here
>> at the remote site powered on for the test.
>>
>>
>> 73 and a HNY Jeff kb2m
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> [hidden email]
>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 16:31 PM
>> To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Remoterig k3/0 mini won't power up remote K3
>>
>> I'm in the middle of setting up my K3 K3/0 mini Remoterig 1258 pair
> setup.
>> It's going well, I have most everything done at the remote site. I
>> have DXLab running on a laptop controlling the remote K3 via the
>> control K3/0 mini. All I have left to do at the remote site is the
>> cable mod for the KPA500.
>> I have one issue. The control station powers down the K3 and KAT500,
>> but not the KPA500. This should work when I do the KPA500 cable mod.
>> The issue is that when I turn on the K3/0 mini it doesn't turn on the
>> remote K3. I see a config item for a Yaesu radio in the Microbit s/w,
>> but not sure it's for an Elecraft setup. Anyone have an answer to this
> problem? Any suggestions ?
>> Before I try remoting from another site I would like to be able to
>> power the remote equipment on and off...
>>
>> 73 Jeff kb2m
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>

Jeff Griffin

Re: Remoterig k3/0 mini questions

In reply to this post by Jeff Griffin

Tonite I disconnected the KPA500 from the K3 ACC port. I then connected the
RRC-1258 directly to the K3 ACC port. The RRC-1258 now powers the K3 off and
on, not just off. I find it hard to believe no one besides me has run into
this yet. I will wait for the return call from Elecraft support to resolve
the KPA500 problem. When I get an answer I will post it here....

73 an a HNY Jeff kb2m

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Remoterig k3/0 mini questions

Jeff,

Do you have the Key Line Isolator in the K3 ACC connector line? I
suspect that may be the problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/30/2014 7:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Tonite I disconnected the KPA500 from the K3 ACC port. I then connected the
> RRC-1258 directly to the K3 ACC port. The RRC-1258 now powers the K3 off and
> on, not just off. I find it hard to believe no one besides me has run into
> this yet. I will wait for the return call from Elecraft support to resolve
> the KPA500 problem. When I get an answer I will post it here....
>
>

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