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David Christ

Rotor control

When using Remote Rig for running a remote K3, what are people using for rotor control?

David K0LUM
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Oliver Dröse

Re: Rotor control

ERC-M

http://www.easy-rotor-control.com

73, Olli - DH8BQA

Am 24.12.2013 22:20, schrieb David Christ:

> When using Remote Rig for running a remote K3, what are people using for rotor control?
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Brian F. Wruble-2

Re: Rotor control

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At the moment, I am using logmein.com, a free program for remotely controlling a pc I left running at the remote location (with a backup battery.) I log on and use Green Heron software to control a Green Heron rotor box. It is slow and clumsy.

Option 1, which inexplicably failed, was an ethernet-to-serial converter. There are many varieties, they are very ideosyncratic. When it worked, it was great. You set up a virtual serial port at your control location, and that becomes the rotor port used in your software. The virtual serial port software is normally provided by the converter manufacturer, and the converters don't seem to like other virtual port software. USConverters.com is one place to start.

As I say, mine worked great until it didn't, and I don't know why it failed, but I had a backup. I got a neighbor to go in and change the cable from the rotor box to the one to my PC.

N3JT has had success with a converter, and he has written an article for the (I think) January CQ on the subject.

Let me know what you learn in the process.

73 de Brian, W3BW/remote Key West to Maryland

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> On Dec 24, 2013, at 4:20 PM, David Christ <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> When using Remote Rig for running a remote K3, what are people using for rotor control?
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Mitch Wolfson, DJØQN / K7DX

Re: Rotor control

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David,

Assuming you already have serial control of your rotor, then I can
suggest two ways to control remotely without using a PC at the radio side:

1) If you are not using the RRC's COM1, you can use that to control the
rotor as well. This passes the serial port over the internet

2) If you are already using COM1 for something else (e.g. for CAT
support under the K3 Twin mode), then you can buy a separate serial port
server device, such as from Lantronix or Moxa. These need to be setup in
a similar manner to the RRC, i.e. port forwards in the router, etc. Then
you install a serial port redirector on your local PC that accesses
these serial ports over the internet through your normal control software.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

On 24.12.2013 22:20, David Christ wrote:

Greg - AB7R

Re: Rotor control

I use one of these and it has worked great.

http://gridconnect.com/industrial-ethernet/ethernet-adapter/uds2100.html

73 and Merry Christmas.
Greg
AB7R

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Mitch Wolfson DJØQN <[hidden email]> wrote:

> David,
>
> Assuming you already have serial control of your rotor, then I can suggest
> two ways to control remotely without using a PC at the radio side:
>
> 1) If you are not using the RRC's COM1, you can use that to control the
> rotor as well. This passes the serial port over the internet
>
> 2) If you are already using COM1 for something else (e.g. for CAT support
> under the K3 Twin mode), then you can buy a separate serial port server
> device, such as from Lantronix or Moxa. These need to be setup in a similar
> manner to the RRC, i.e. port forwards in the router, etc. Then you install
> a serial port redirector on your local PC that accesses these serial ports
> over the internet through your normal control software.
>
> 73,
> Mitch DJ0QN
>
> On 24.12.2013 22:20, David Christ wrote:
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>> When using Remote Rig for running a remote K3, what are people using for
>> rotor control?
>>
>> David K0LUM
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Rick Tavan N6XI

Re: Rotor control

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I'm using PstRotator from Codrut YO3DMU. I run the server side on a Dell
Optiplex computer ($200 used - very quiet and reliable) at the remote site,
along with server apps for KPA and KAT. I run the client side at the
control site. Codrut's package has extensive support for many different
rotors and logging software. It even supports remote control of elevation
rotors, SteppIR controllers and other stuff. In my case, I control an Orion
RC2800P-A rotor controller at the remote site from Writelog on my control
site computer. Type in a call, push an F-key and the rotor turns to the
correct azimuth. Very slick. Writelog connects to the control side
RemoteRig RRC COM1-USB port for rig control as well.

/Rick

On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 1:20 PM, David Christ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> When using Remote Rig for running a remote K3, what are people using for
> rotor control?
>
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Doug Joyce

Re: Rotor control

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Hi David: Another approach is to use the 1216H Web Switch and related 1216L Rotator Control from Microbit.

see http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=166 for an overview of the two units;

73, Doug VE3MV

On 2013-Dec-24, at 4:20 PM, David Christ <[hidden email]> wrote:

"Milan Gütter, OK7GU"

Re: Rotor control

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David,

Iam using 5 remotely controlled rotators (1x Prosistel, 2xCreate, 2x
Yaesu) with my Remoterig RRC1258 and K3/0 + K3.

I tested few solutions.
The best (better than the Remoterig solution) for me is the PstRotator
SW from YO3DMU
http://www.qsl.net/yo3dmu/index_Page346.htm

Rotartors are equiped with the ERC hardware - PCB unit from
http://www.schmidt-alba.de <http://www.schmidt-alba.de/English/english.html>

All works fine for over 1Yr.

73, MX + HNY

Milan, OK7GU
www.ok7gu.com

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JBaumgarte

Re: Rotor control

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I use N1MM ROTOR to control both of my rotors at my remote station--Orion 2800px and Ham4 with the EZ card. I have 2 K3's and the RRC package. All the peripherals get switched with 2 of Green Heron GHEverywhere boxes and the 16 contacts. Keep an old Dell6?? Box going and view the screen at the control sight with Remote Administrator program. The Idiom Press EZ card occasionally hangs up so I use one contact to repower the rotors also one to power up an auto tuner. The rest switch 6 pack, 2 4 sq, and 4 Beverages. My trusty old Alpha 87 does it's thing with Alpha remote.

All works great.

John,N0IJ. Control in MN, station in WI

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> On Dec 24, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm using PstRotator from Codrut YO3DMU. I run the server side on a Dell
> Optiplex computer ($200 used - very quiet and reliable) at the remote site,
> along with server apps for KPA and KAT. I run the client side at the
> control site. Codrut's package has extensive support for many different
> rotors and logging software. It even supports remote control of elevation
> rotors, SteppIR controllers and other stuff. In my case, I control an Orion
> RC2800P-A rotor controller at the remote site from Writelog on my control
> site computer. Type in a call, push an F-key and the rotor turns to the
> correct azimuth. Very slick. Writelog connects to the control side
> RemoteRig RRC COM1-USB port for rig control as well.
>
> /Rick
>
>
>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 1:20 PM, David Christ <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> When using Remote Rig for running a remote K3, what are people using for
>> rotor control?
>>
>> David K0LUM
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