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Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users.
....bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -----Original message----- From: Ken Roberson <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too.
Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. ....bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -----Original message----- From: Ken Roberson <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though.
73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters [hidden email] AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. ....bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -----Original message----- From: Ken Roberson <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thanks for that, Tim. I'm still using XP. No worries with that o/s.
Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -----Original Message----- From: KQ8M [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:34 AM To: Matthew Zilmer; 'Bill Conkling'; 'Ken Roberson'; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters [hidden email] AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. ....bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -----Original message----- From: Ken Roberson <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The Delta 44 has low internal noise making it it ideal for an SDR.
73, Barry K3NDM On 8/30/2012 11:22 AM, Ken Roberson wrote: > > Hello ALL, > > > > Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for > > SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? > > I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, > > Will any of those cards work? > > I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. > OFF line would be fine > > > > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Ken K5DNL > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I don't believe that the M-Audio Delta 44 has been available for quite some time ... I'm pretty sure it has been discontinued. M-Audio does make other cards, though. N8LP (the guy who makes the LP-Pan) has a page on his website that shows the results he got with a few of the better currently available sound cards. Go to www.telepostinc.com and click on the "Sound Card Page" link at the left hand side of the page. I think he has also tested some other cards (including some fairly expensive ones) that are not shown on that page, most of which have poor performance or some other deficiency that would exclude them from serious consideration for SDR purposes. When in doubt, ask. I know he reads this reflector, and there is also one on Yahoo dedicated to the LP-Pan. 73, Dave AB7E On 8/30/2012 8:22 AM, Ken Roberson wrote: > > Hello ALL, > > > > Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for > > SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? > > I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, > > Will any of those cards work? > > I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. > OFF line would be fine > > > > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Ken K5DNL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at
least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M <[hidden email]> wrote: > Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. > > 73, > Tim Herrick, KQ8M > Charter Member North Coast Contesters > [hidden email] > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto: > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM > To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. > > Matt Zilmer, W6NIA > In status quo voluntas non sufficit > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto: > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM > To: Ken Roberson; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track > record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. > > ....bill nr4c > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid > > -----Original message----- > From: Ken Roberson <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > > > Hello ALL, > > > > Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for > > SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? > > I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, > > Will any of those cards work? > > I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. > OFF line would be fine > > > > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Ken K5DNL > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Jim K0XU [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the
big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform! 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters [hidden email] AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM To: KQ8M Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's server) and install them. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M <[hidden email]> wrote: Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters [hidden email] AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. Matt Zilmer, W6NIA In status quo voluntas non sufficit -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM To: Ken Roberson; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. ....bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid -----Original message----- From: Ken Roberson <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards Hello ALL, Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, Will any of those cards work? I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. OFF line would be fine Thanks for your help Ken K5DNL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Jim K0XU [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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See N8LP's excellent summary for sound cards actually tested by him with LP-PAN: http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html PCI is actually preferable if CPU usage is an issue. I use the Audiophile 2496 with an old 2.8G Pentium 4 XP and CPU usage is typically 20-30% running CW Skimmer and N1MM in contests. 73, Bill |
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The 2496 works very well on Win 7 also. Asus Xonar Essence ST's and DG's also work very well with XP and 7.
Yes, I am using all of them. I have 4 computers, each running 3 soundcards each. 3 XP's and a Win 7. They are being used with SDR-IQ, SoftRock receivers and also a K3 with LP-Pan. Using CWSkimmer with all. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters [hidden email] AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill W4ZV Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:51 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards K5DNL wrote > > Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for > > SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? > > I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, > > Will any of those cards work? > > I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. > OFF line would be fine > See N8LP's excellent summary for sound cards actually tested by him with LP-PAN: http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html PCI is actually preferable if CPU usage is an issue. I use the Audiophile 2496 with an old 2.8G Pentium 4 XP and CPU usage is typically 20-30% running CW Skimmer and N1MM in contests. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SDR-Sound-Cards-tp7561844p7561863.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Those two don't work very well with Win 7... -------------- Actually the Emu 0202 works perfectly with Win 7. However, it is no longer made and in fact has not been made for quite a while. Apparently the 0204 does not work so well. For a lot of into about sound cards for SDR application, see the Yahoo Softrock group. There are many posts, some of which include bandwidth plots and other objective info. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Well, I will stick with my 0202's anyway. When I was installing the second
0202 on my netbook this morning the installation software asked if I was installing an 0202 or an 0204. Of course I said an 0202. This is not the driver only package, but a whole installation set. Have not had a chance to plug a radio into it yet and I have to work all night, so will not have a chance until tomorrow morning when I get off. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:33 PM, KQ8M <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win > 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the big audiophile's > that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth dung on Vista or > Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's website and see if you can download > drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows platform!**** > > ** ** > > 73,**** > > Tim Herrick, KQ8M**** > > Charter Member North Coast Contesters**** > > [hidden email]**** > > ** ** > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org**** > > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer**** > > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Jim Rhodes [mailto:[hidden email]] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM > *To:* KQ8M > *Cc:* Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; > [hidden email] > *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards**** > > ** ** > > That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at > least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta drivers for Win7 > that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate 64 bit for over a > year now and I just picked up another for portable operation and loaded the > drivers on a netbook running Win7 Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't > automagically load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the > drivers (and that includes working around a server error on Creative's > server) and install them.**** > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M <[hidden email]> wrote:**** > > Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. > > 73, > Tim Herrick, KQ8M > Charter Member North Coast Contesters > [hidden email] > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto: > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM > To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. > > Matt Zilmer, W6NIA > In status quo voluntas non sufficit > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto: > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Conkling > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM > To: Ken Roberson; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track > record as one of the best and lots of info available and happy users. > > ....bill nr4c > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid > > -----Original message----- > From: Ken Roberson <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > > > Hello ALL, > > > > Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for > > SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? > > I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, > > Will any of those cards work? > > I don’t need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. > OFF line would be fine > > > > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Ken K5DNL > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > Jim K0XU**** > > [hidden email]**** > > ** ** > -- Jim K0XU [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m. The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others all still installed on my shack PC.
73, Larry N8LP
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I'm sorry, Larry, but I have to totally disagree with you about the 0204. Yes, it works well on an XP machine but why have they only
released beta drivers for it when it was first manufactured but have failed to build any newer drivers? Why is it you cannot download ANY drivers for this from their own website? I will search tomorrow but I will find the posts in Creative's own forums from people that used it in real hard core audio apps. The box snaps, crackles and pops and drops out. I could not even get it to work for longer than an hour on 96kHz. Yes, that is a HUGE complaint among the audiophiles. I do agree on the 2496. It is a very good stable card. I have found the ASUS cards to work pretty well also. The Xonar Essence and the Xonar DG have been running here very well for 6 months. I still have not been about to get the 1212m PCIe to work but have not spent a lot of time on it. It seems to me none of the creative cards work very well. They always have some sort of mirror image. I am judging these cards using CWSkimmer. With that application you cannot have any mirror image or it spots those mirror images erroneously. Most people can get away with mirror images that are down from the main signal as they would never know they are there. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters [hidden email] AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of N8LP Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:52 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m. The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others all still installed on my shack PC. 73, Larry N8LP KQ8M wrote > > I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win > 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the > big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth > dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's > website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows > platform! > > > > 73, > > Tim Herrick, KQ8M > > Charter Member North Coast Contesters > > kq8m@ > > > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org > > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer > > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 > > > > From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@] > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM > To: KQ8M > Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > > > That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at > least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta > drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate > 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another > for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 > Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically > load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and > that includes working around a server error on Creative's > server) and install them. > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M <kq8m@> wrote: > > Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. > > 73, > Tim Herrick, KQ8M > Charter Member North Coast Contesters > kq8m@ > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of > Matthew Zilmer > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM > To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. > > Matt Zilmer, W6NIA > In status quo voluntas non sufficit > > -----Original Message----- > From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of > Bill Conkling > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM > To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track > record as one of the best and lots of info available and > happy users. > > ....bill nr4c > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid > > -----Original message----- > From: Ken Roberson <kwroberson@> > To: elecraft@.qth > Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > > > Hello ALL, > > > > Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for > > SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? > > I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, > > Will any of those cards work? > > I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. > OFF line would be fine > > > > > > > Thanks for your help > > > > Ken K5DNL > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > > > > -- > Jim K0XU > > jim@ > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SDR-Sound-Cards-tp7561844p7561884.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Umm, the EMU-0204 works just fine with Win7. I've used mine with the
following and it worked flawlessly: SoftRock40 SoftRock Ensemble RX/TX Genesis G59 K3 with LP-Pan Currently, it is my main sound card as my on-board sound card audio output died. 73, Joel - W4JBB On 8/30/2012 11:33 AM, KQ8M wrote: > Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. > > 73, > Tim Herrick, KQ8M > Charter Member North Coast Contesters > [hidden email] > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Matthew Zilmer > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM > To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. > > Matt Zilmer, W6NIA > In status quo voluntas non sufficit > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Tim,
You're confusing the 0202 and the 0204. There are definitely Win7 drivers for the 0204 - I have them. They're included with the card when you buy it. I'm looking at them right now in my hand. They are in the envelope labeled "Installation Kit." 73, Joel - W4JBB On 8/30/2012 8:14 PM, KQ8M wrote: > I'm sorry, Larry, but I have to totally disagree with you about the 0204. Yes, it works well on an XP machine but why have they only > released beta drivers for it when it was first manufactured but have failed to build any newer drivers? Why is it you cannot > download ANY drivers for this from their own website? I will search tomorrow but I will find the posts in Creative's own forums from > people that used it in real hard core audio apps. The box snaps, crackles and pops and drops out. I could not even get it to work > for longer than an hour on 96kHz. Yes, that is a HUGE complaint among the audiophiles. > > I do agree on the 2496. It is a very good stable card. I have found the ASUS cards to work pretty well also. The Xonar Essence and > the Xonar DG have been running here very well for 6 months. I still have not been about to get the 1212m PCIe to work but have not > spent a lot of time on it. > > It seems to me none of the creative cards work very well. They always have some sort of mirror image. > > I am judging these cards using CWSkimmer. With that application you cannot have any mirror image or it spots those mirror images > erroneously. Most people can get away with mirror images that are down from the main signal as they would never know they are there. > > > 73, > Tim Herrick, KQ8M > Charter Member North Coast Contesters > [hidden email] > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of N8LP > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:52 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards > > I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests > perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m. > The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to > win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile > 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at > 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still > decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others > all still installed on my shack PC. > > 73, > Larry N8LP > > > > > KQ8M wrote >> I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win >> 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the >> big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth >> dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's >> website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows >> platform! >> >> >> >> 73, >> >> Tim Herrick, KQ8M >> >> Charter Member North Coast Contesters >> >> kq8m@ >> >> >> >> AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org >> >> User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer >> >> Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 >> >> >> >> From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@] >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM >> To: KQ8M >> Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards >> >> >> >> That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at >> least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta >> drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate >> 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another >> for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 >> Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically >> load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and >> that includes working around a server error on Creative's >> server) and install them. >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M <kq8m@> wrote: >> >> Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. >> >> 73, >> Tim Herrick, KQ8M >> Charter Member North Coast Contesters >> kq8m@ >> >> AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org >> User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer >> Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of >> Matthew Zilmer >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM >> To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards >> >> The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. >> >> Matt Zilmer, W6NIA >> In status quo voluntas non sufficit >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of >> Bill Conkling >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM >> To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards >> >> There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track >> record as one of the best and lots of info available and >> happy users. >> >> ....bill nr4c >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: Ken Roberson <kwroberson@> >> To: elecraft@.qth >> Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards >> >> >> >> Hello ALL, >> >> >> >> Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for >> >> SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? >> >> I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, >> >> Will any of those cards work? >> >> I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. >> OFF line would be fine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help >> >> >> >> Ken K5DNL >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim K0XU >> >> jim@ >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SDR-Sound-Cards-tp7561844p7561884.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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All,
I think there is something that is being overlooked. The KX3 manual suggests that you stay at a 48KHz sample rate, but 96KHz can be used, but it is really down at the edges. I see no point in considering a card based solely on 192KHz performance. Secondly if you opt to use NaP3 and set it so that what you are tuned to is in the center of the display, you will always see the +/- 24KHz of where the software has tuned the radio when following the Elecraft suggestion, and the response here will be essentially flat. If you are not going to make an SDR using your computer and are only interested in digital work using the audio out, than almost any card will work. And one last point. I do use the E-MU0202 on my Windows7 Pro 64 laptop. I did have a little grief up front, but it seems fine now. The ASIO driver works better than the MME driver, but only the MME driver will let me play with VAC and FLDIGI. The differences between these drivers is that ASIO allows 32 bit DSP and MME allows only 16 bit. If someone knows how to get around this, I'd be most interested. 73, Barry K3NDM On 8/30/2012 8:52 PM, N8LP wrote: > I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests > perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m. > The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to > win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile > 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at > 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still > decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others > all still installed on my shack PC. > > 73, > Larry N8LP > > > > > KQ8M wrote >> I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win >> 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the >> big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth >> dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's >> website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows >> platform! >> >> >> >> 73, >> >> Tim Herrick, KQ8M >> >> Charter Member North Coast Contesters >> >> kq8m@ >> >> >> >> AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org >> >> User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer >> >> Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 >> >> >> >> From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@] >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM >> To: KQ8M >> Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards >> >> >> >> That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at >> least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta >> drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate >> 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another >> for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7 >> Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically >> load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and >> that includes working around a server error on Creative's >> server) and install them. >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M <kq8m@> wrote: >> >> Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though. >> >> 73, >> Tim Herrick, KQ8M >> Charter Member North Coast Contesters >> kq8m@ >> >> AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org >> User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer >> Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of >> Matthew Zilmer >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM >> To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards >> >> The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too. >> >> Matt Zilmer, W6NIA >> In status quo voluntas non sufficit >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of >> Bill Conkling >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM >> To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards >> >> There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track >> record as one of the best and lots of info available and >> happy users. >> >> ....bill nr4c >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: Ken Roberson <kwroberson@> >> To: elecraft@.qth >> Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards >> >> >> >> Hello ALL, >> >> >> >> Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for >> >> SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44? >> >> I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards, >> >> Will any of those cards work? >> >> I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine. >> OFF line would be fine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help >> >> >> >> Ken K5DNL >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim K0XU >> >> jim@ >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SDR-Sound-Cards-tp7561844p7561884.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ....if you opt to use NaP3 and > set it so that what you are tuned to is in the center of the display, > you will always see the +/- 24KHz.... ============== The amount you see is selectable. It depends on the sampling rate as set by the sound card, the sampling rate set in the NaP3 Setup page, and the width selected on the NaP3 display. If you have a 192K card, you can see up to +/- 96K, or as little as +/- 3K. Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Having read several recent posts concerning sound cards for panadapter use, I thought I would share my own recent experience with the Creative E-MU-0204 card. My operating system is Win7 64 bit with 8 GB RAM. I built Larry Phipps' LP-PAN2 and am running NaP3 at 192 KHz with MixW via LP-Bridge. This combination is stable and works very nicely...with the following cautions and caveats:
1. The 0204 comes with an install disk and the driver contained thereon works fine. It is an MME driver. Once installed, however, the computer's audio mixer must be configured to command the driver to lock in sampling rates of 192,000 Hz. If this is not done, the 0204 will default to a 48 Khz sampling rate regardless of what rate is called for by NaP3. To accomplish this, right click on the speaker icon in the Windows system tray. This pops up a menu. Select 'recording devices' and up comes a list of the sound devices on your computer. Double click on E-MU 0204 and in the next screen select the 'advanced' tab. Under 'default format' select '2 channel, 24 bit, 192000 Hz (Studio Quality)' and click 'Apply' and 'OK' Now select the 'Levels' tab and set main volume to a value of 2. This will take you back to where you started. Hit 'OK' to exit the setup screen. 2. If your computer boasts over 4 gig of RAM, you must throttle it back to no more than 4 GB. This is done via the msconfig utility. Hit the Windows 'Start' icon, type msconfig and hit enter. This brings up a system configuration screen. Select the 'boot' tab and then 'Advanced options...' Now, in the screen that comes up, enter 4095 as the maximum memory and hit 'OK'. When your computer is rebooted, it will have 4 GB of RAM at its disposal. 3. USB 2.0 is required, otherwise the 0204 will default to 48 KHz. If you use a hub, make sure it is 2.0 compliant and has its own power supply. Interestingly, the driver GUI will state the USB speed at the lower left of the screen. The URL for driver support is www dot creative dot com/emu. Select "Support", then 'E-MU 0204 USB 2.0' All of the above information, and more, is available on the telepostinc website. I followed Larry's instructions to the letter and was rewarded with a nice smooth result. If I may say so, LP-Bridge is amazing. Your mileage may vary, of course. That's computers for you : ) Bill, WA4KBD ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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