SKN / Bug - Just one request.

[Darwin, Keith]

Hey guys,
 
I believe SKN is a straight key event.  I also know folks will use bugs
rather than straight keys.  I have but one request.  Well two actually:
 
1.  Please send cleanly as far as your are able.  If you mean to send
"santa" don't send "sank".  QRS and send clean.  Extra space between
letters is your friend.  I'd rather work a clean fist at 10 wpm then a
string of seemingly random dots & dashes at 20 wpm.
 
2.  Please, HAVE FUN!  Enjoy the time you spend.
 
If you can only honor one of these requests, make it the 2nd please.
 
73!
 
- Keith KD1E -
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[Vic K2VCO]

Darwin, Keith wrote:

> Extra space between
> letters is your friend.  I'd rather work a clean fist at 10 wpm then a
> string of seemingly random dots & dashes at 20 wpm.

This isn't just a bug problem!  I hear plenty of keyer-generated CW in
which letter and word spacing is inadequate.

Some old-timers may remember the "banana-boat swing" in which a bug is
adjusted to produce very fast dits relative to the sending speed.  The
operator usually sends more dits than necessary, although I think there
is some relationship between the number of dits sent and the number
required.  Well, this is *easier* to copy than  CW with lousy spacing!

To forestall the inevitable comments, yes I know that the banana boat
swing differs from the Lake Erie swing, in which the proper quantity of
dits is used.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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[Thom LaCosta]

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Vic K2VCO wrote:

> Some old-timers may remember the "banana-boat swing" in which a bug is
> adjusted to produce very fast dits relative to the sending speed.  The
> operator usually sends more dits than necessary, although I think there is
> some relationship between the number of dits sent and the number required.
> Well, this is *easier* to copy than  CW with lousy spacing!
>
> To forestall the inevitable comments, yes I know that the banana boat swing
> differs from the Lake Erie swing, in which the proper quantity of dits is
> used.

Now that strikes me a worthwhile addition to the K2 keyer....an option for which
swing you want.

Another one might be a seperate weighting factor for the dashes....you know
Dahhhhhhhhhdidahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhdi  dahhhhhhhhhhhh dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dit
dahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I tried to do it with the K2...very frustrating indeed.

73,Thom-k3hrn
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[Jessie Oberreuter]

      Oh!  And Sad Drake mode that makes the tone "whoope!".  I nearly fell
out of my chair laughing the first time I heard that sound!

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Thom R LaCosta wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Vic K2VCO wrote:
>
>> Some old-timers may remember the "banana-boat swing" in which a bug is
>> adjusted to produce very fast dits relative to the sending speed.  The
>> operator usually sends more dits than necessary, although I think there is
>> some relationship between the number of dits sent and the number required.
>> Well, this is *easier* to copy than  CW with lousy spacing!
>>
>> To forestall the inevitable comments, yes I know that the banana boat swing
>> differs from the Lake Erie swing, in which the proper quantity of dits is
>> used.
>
> Now that strikes me a worthwhile addition to the K2 keyer....an option for
> which swing you want.
>
> Another one might be a seperate weighting factor for the dashes....you know
> Dahhhhhhhhhdidahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhdi  dahhhhhhhhhhhh dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dit
> dahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>
> I tried to do it with the K2...very frustrating indeed.
>
> 73,Thom-k3hrn
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[Tom Althoff]

If you have a squeeze key you can wire the dash paddle through 2 diodes to
the tip and the ring of the phone plug and leave the dot paddle to the dot
line.

You can then emulate a bug on the K2 if you have it set for auto-key-detect.

I haven't tried it...I was never very good with a bug above 15WPM.

Tom K2TA

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From: "Thom R LaCosta" <[hidden email]>
To: "Vic K2VCO" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SKN / Bug - Just one request.


> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Vic K2VCO wrote:
>
> > Some old-timers may remember the "banana-boat swing" in which a bug is
> > adjusted to produce very fast dits relative to the sending speed.  The
> > operator usually sends more dits than necessary, although I think there
is
> > some relationship between the number of dits sent and the number
required.
> > Well, this is *easier* to copy than  CW with lousy spacing!
> >
> > To forestall the inevitable comments, yes I know that the banana boat
swing
> > differs from the Lake Erie swing, in which the proper quantity of dits
is
> > used.
>
> Now that strikes me a worthwhile addition to the K2 keyer....an option for
which
> swing you want.
>
> Another one might be a seperate weighting factor for the dashes....you
know

> Dahhhhhhhhhdidahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhdi  dahhhhhhhhhhhh dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dit
> dahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>
> I tried to do it with the K2...very frustrating indeed.
>
> 73,Thom-k3hrn
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