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SSB<>CW VFO offset

Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing something, somebody please tell me.

If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance, or down when switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the PITCH frequency. It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to SSB or back, I lose sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want to be able to stay in pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and forth between SSB and CW modes.

If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior, I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB mode behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this VFO-offset behavior when switching between these modes as well. It should be an option you can set in Config -- "Auto offset VFO CW/SSB" or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called "Frequency correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF)". We VHF ops would be very grateful.

Thanks,
Bill W5WVO
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Re: SSB<>CW VFO offset

Tony Fegan VE3QF
Hi Bill,

Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature:

* CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW without
changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the
signal at your CW pitch.
This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be copied.
To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until you see
SSB +CW.

Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If
your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you may
want to change the filter width if copying gets tough.

Hope this helps.

73
Tony Fegan VE3QF
K3 #137

Bill W5WVO wrote:
> This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing something, somebody please tell me.
>
> If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance, or down when switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the PITCH frequency. It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to SSB or back, I lose sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want to be able to stay in pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and forth between SSB and CW modes.
>
> If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior, I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB mode behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this VFO-offset behavior when switching between these modes as well. It should be an option you can set in Config -- "Auto offset VFO CW/SSB" or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called "Frequency correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF)". We VHF ops would be very grateful.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill W5WVO
>  


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Re: SSB<>CW VFO offset

gm3sek
Tony Fegan VE3QF wrote:

>Bill W5WVO wrote:
>> This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but
>>it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing
>>something, somebody please tell me.
>>
>> If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to
>>CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change
>>frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance, or down when
>>switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the PITCH frequency.
>>It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to SSB or back, I lose
>>sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want to be able to stay in
>>pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and forth between SSB
>>
>>
>> If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior,
>>I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an
>>implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB mode
>>behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this VFO-offset
>>behavior when switching between these modes as well. It should be an
>>option you can set in Config -- "Auto offset VFO CW/SSB" or something
>>like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called "Frequency correction
>>for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF)". We VHF ops would be very grateful.
>>

>Hi Bill,
>
>Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature:
>
>* CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW without
>changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the
>signal at your CW pitch.
>This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be copied.
>To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until
>you see SSB +CW.
>
>Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If
>your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you may
>want to change the filter width if copying gets tough.
>
>Hope this helps.

Auto-CW does help, but the present version does not provide all the
features that Bill and other VHF ops need.

At present we're working around it, and hoping that an upgrade is "on
the list".


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73 from Ian GM3SEK
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Re: SSB<>CW VFO offset

Alexandr Kobranov
What we are talking about is as already published in "wish-list" on
zerobeat forum:

http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php?topic=228.0

FREQUENCY CORRECTION FOR CW - OFF/ON
If you operate both SSB and CW modes, you would
sometimes use SSB mode (USB or LSB) just to
watch and listen to CW signals. It is fine just to
monitor those CW signals but you have experienced
that changing the mode from SSB to CW results in
losing the target CW signal. This is because the
frequency on the display always shows the true
carrier frequency for all modes. If you want the
transceiver to shift the reception frequency to trace
the receiving CW signal when changing the mode
from SSB (USB or LSB) to CW, switch this function
ON. The transceiver shifts the reception frequency
when changing the mode from SSB to CW, so you
can still hear the target signal and instantly transmit
the signal in CW without adjusting the frequency.

I also hope in future revision of fw :-)

73!
Lexa, ok1dst

Ian White GM3SEK napsal(a):

> Tony Fegan VE3QF wrote:
>> Bill W5WVO wrote:
>>> This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but
>>> it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing
>>> something, somebody please tell me.
>>>
>>> If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to
>>> CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change
>>> his frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance, or down when
>>> switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the PITCH frequency.
>>> It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to SSB or back, I lose
>>> sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want to be able to stay in
>>> pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and forth between SSB
>>>
>>> If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior,
>>> I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an
>>> implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB
>>> mode behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this
>>> VFO-offset behavior when switching between these modes as well. It
>>> should be an option you can set in Config -- "Auto offset VFO CW/SSB"
>>> or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called
>>> "Frequency correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF)". We VHF ops
>>> would be very grateful.
>>>
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature:
>>
>> * CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW without
>> changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the
>> signal at your CW pitch.
>> This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be copied.
>> To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until you
>> see SSB +CW.
>>
>> Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If
>> your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you may
>> want to change the filter width if copying gets tough.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>
> Auto-CW does help, but the present version does not provide all the
> features that Bill and other VHF ops need.
>
> At present we're working around it, and hoping that an upgrade is "on
> the list".
>
>

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Re: SSB<>CW VFO offset

Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
Thanks for pointing this out. Wayne has confirmed to me that it's on his
list. Hopefully we'll get it Real Soon Now. ;-)

Bill W5WVO


Alexandr Kobranov wrote:

> What we are talking about is as already published in "wish-list" on
> zerobeat forum:
>
> http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php?topic=228.0
>
> FREQUENCY CORRECTION FOR CW - OFF/ON
> If you operate both SSB and CW modes, you would
> sometimes use SSB mode (USB or LSB) just to
> watch and listen to CW signals. It is fine just to
> monitor those CW signals but you have experienced
> that changing the mode from SSB to CW results in
> losing the target CW signal. This is because the
> frequency on the display always shows the true
> carrier frequency for all modes. If you want the
> transceiver to shift the reception frequency to trace
> the receiving CW signal when changing the mode
> from SSB (USB or LSB) to CW, switch this function
> ON. The transceiver shifts the reception frequency
> when changing the mode from SSB to CW, so you
> can still hear the target signal and instantly transmit
> the signal in CW without adjusting the frequency.
>
> I also hope in future revision of fw :-)
>
> 73!
> Lexa, ok1dst
>
> Ian White GM3SEK napsal(a):
>> Tony Fegan VE3QF wrote:
>>> Bill W5WVO wrote:
>>>> This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to,
>>>> but it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm
>>>> missing something, somebody please tell me.
>>>>
>>>> If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to
>>>> CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO
>>>> change his frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance,
>>>> or down when switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the
>>>> PITCH frequency. It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to
>>>> SSB or back, I lose sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want
>>>> to be able to stay in pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching
>>>> back and forth between SSB
>>>>
>>>> If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this
>>>> behavior, I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please
>>>> have an implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The
>>>> CW-in-SSB
>>>> mode behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this
>>>> VFO-offset behavior when switching between these modes as well. It
>>>> should be an option you can set in Config -- "Auto offset VFO
>>>> CW/SSB" or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called
>>>> "Frequency correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF)". We VHF ops
>>>> would be very grateful.
>>>>
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature:
>>>
>>> * CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW
>>> without changing modes or using an offset. The other station will
>>> hear the signal at your CW pitch.
>>> This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be
>>> copied. To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’
>>> until you
>>> see SSB +CW.
>>>
>>> Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If
>>> your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you
>>> may want to change the filter width if copying gets tough.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Auto-CW does help, but the present version does not provide all the
>> features that Bill and other VHF ops need.
>>
>> At present we're working around it, and hoping that an upgrade is "on
>> the list".
>>
>>
>
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