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SSB audio problem

Bob Baxter-3
My K2 #922 ssb audio has a very pronounced sibilance problem (like a
lisp).  The amount varies with different people speaking.  SF4 (dsp)
will cancel it out but that affects intelligibility, and I don't have
that much to spare.  SF1-3 don't have much effect on it and turning
the dsp off doesn't help.  I don't know how long this has been going
on as I haven't used ssb for a few years--I have a 50 pound Kenwood
that does ssb pretty well if I feel the need for it.  I haven't done
the matched crystal mod and I'm wondering if that will help.  Any
ideas will be appreciated.
--
Bob Baxter AA7EQ
Walnut Ridge, Ar.
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RE: SSB audio problem

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
Transmit, receive, or both?

If on receive, that vintage of K2 needs the 2nd XFIL flattening mod as the
first step. It takes out the "tilt" in that filter (used only on receive)
that makes the audio sound bassy on one sideband and tinny on the other.

Ron AC7AC

-----Original Message-----
My K2 #922 ssb audio has a very pronounced sibilance problem (like a
lisp).  The amount varies with different people speaking.  SF4 (dsp)
will cancel it out but that affects intelligibility, and I don't have
that much to spare.  SF1-3 don't have much effect on it and turning
the dsp off doesn't help.  I don't know how long this has been going
on as I haven't used ssb for a few years--I have a 50 pound Kenwood
that does ssb pretty well if I feel the need for it.  I haven't done
the matched crystal mod and I'm wondering if that will help.  Any
ideas will be appreciated.
--
Bob Baxter AA7EQ
Walnut Ridge, Ar.


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Re: SSB audio problem

Bob Baxter-3
Oops.  Receive as far as I know.  I've never transmitted with it.  I
will try both mods.  It's definitely bassy on lsb and tinny on usb.
Thanks Ron.

Bob Baxter AA7EQ
Walnut Ridge, Ar.



On 12/10/05, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Transmit, receive, or both?
>
> If on receive, that vintage of K2 needs the 2nd XFIL flattening mod as the
> first step. It takes out the "tilt" in that filter (used only on receive)
> that makes the audio sound bassy on one sideband and tinny on the other.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> My K2 #922 ssb audio has a very pronounced sibilance problem (like a
> lisp).
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Re: SSB audio problem

Jack Brindle
Sounds like an alignment is needed to place the IF in the middle of  
the passband and not near an end.

On Dec 10, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Bob Baxter wrote:

> Oops.  Receive as far as I know.  I've never transmitted with it.  I
> will try both mods.  It's definitely bassy on lsb and tinny on usb.
> Thanks Ron.
>
> Bob Baxter AA7EQ
> Walnut Ridge, Ar.
>
>
>
> On 12/10/05, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Transmit, receive, or both?
>>
>> If on receive, that vintage of K2 needs the 2nd XFIL flattening  
>> mod as the
>> first step. It takes out the "tilt" in that filter (used only on  
>> receive)
>> that makes the audio sound bassy on one sideband and tinny on the  
>> other.
>>
>> Ron AC7AC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> My K2 #922 ssb audio has a very pronounced sibilance problem (like a
>> lisp).
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RE: SSB audio problem

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
Jack wrote:

Sounds like an alignment is needed to place the IF in the middle of  
the passband and not near an end.

--------------------------------

Absolutely, Jack, *IF* the 2nd XFIL flattening mod has been made. Otherwise
one ends up making a mess of the transmitted audio since the 2nd XFIL is
used only on receive. The symptoms he described are exactly what we heard on
early K2s when the BFO was set properly.  

IIRC, this is one of the mods that became part of the basic K2 as shipped
starting about S/N 3000. It took that long to be incorporated only because
it required a change to the main pc board in the K2. The issue came up and
the mod was developed about the time I built S/N 1289 in the Spring of 2000,
so only the oldest of the K2's now on the air had that problem.  

Ron AC7AC

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Re: SSB audio problem

Bob Baxter-3
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I've ordered the 2nd stage mod kit.  I'm also going to do the matched
crystal mod on general principles.  Thanks for the help, I may buy a
microphone for it some day.  I added the SSB for digital modes a few
years ago but never checked SSB audio.

Bob Baxter AA7EQ
Walnut Ridge, Ar.

On 12/10/05, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's just one mod, Bob. Look up the Elecraft web site "Builders Resources".
> Under "Mods:" you'll find, "K2 2nd Stage Xfil Mod, for 'Flatter' SSB Filter
> Response".
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RE: SSB audio problem

Don Wilhelm-3
Bob,

In addition, you will need to do a re-alignment of the filters/BFOs after
you change the crystals, and while you are doing that, it is only a few
steps to do a complete calibration.  For the full information on how to
accomplish that, take a look at my website http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com article
on K2 dial calibration - Step 3 of that article goes into the CAL PLL
procedures with references and links provided.

The procedure is not difficult, but does require some care in executing it
to assure good results and optimum performance from your K2.

You will be pleased with the crystal change - not only on SSB, but for CW as
well.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -----Original Message-----

>
> I've ordered the 2nd stage mod kit.  I'm also going to do the matched
> crystal mod on general principles.  Thanks for the help, I may buy a
> microphone for it some day.  I added the SSB for digital modes a few
> years ago but never checked SSB audio.
>
> Bob Baxter AA7EQ
> Walnut Ridge, Ar.
>
> On 12/10/05, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > It's just one mod, Bob. Look up the Elecraft web site "Builders
> Resources".
> > Under "Mods:" you'll find, "K2 2nd Stage Xfil Mod, for
> 'Flatter' SSB Filter
> > Response".
>

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K2 #5111 on air for the first time

Michael Jensen
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Hi





I just like to share the great feeling of the first QSO with the K2.

To night it came live in a 40M SSB QSO with PA3FAO some 450 Km, from my new
QTH, not great DX but a QSO it was. Setup was a longwire sloping from the
flag pole about 10 M long, feed by a T1 tuner (wire coming through the small
opening of a almost closed door. To cold a round here to sit in shorts
outside and play with radio). The K2 was with the SSB option installed,
since I have not yet had the opportunity to learn the code (Had to wait few
more days to go live until I got the SSB option done :-( ).

Might still have some current consumption to verify, might get back to that
here when investigated, but beside from that a great feeling. Most time
spend on the assembly, but in due time the following link will be updated
with the progress of #5111. www.the-jensen-dk.net





Br.



OZ1BZJ

Michael



PS. Do not worry I have week before last week got my self a paddle from HRO
in San Diego. Visit the area few times a year for business. So I will give
learning the code a go. With the price of the paddle a big go :-)
















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