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w4sc-2

SVGA Screen save to memory stick

I’ve read the manual, tried at least 10 memory sticks (a very BAD location for the USB, some don’t fit because of VGA cable.

What is the secret?

Ben W4SC

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Vic Rosenthal

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

I’d like to know too. I’ve never been able to get it to work. Sometimes it starts saving snd hangs up; sometimes it doesn’t start.

Victor 4X6GP

> On 26 Sep 2020, at 3:42, w4sc <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I’ve read the manual, tried at least 10 memory sticks (a very BAD location for the USB, some don’t fit because of VGA cable.
>
> What is the secret?
>
> Ben W4SC
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Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

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What product is this for?

73,
Jack, W6FB

> On Sep 25, 2020, at 5:42 PM, w4sc <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I’ve read the manual, tried at least 10 memory sticks (a very BAD location for the USB, some don’t fit because of VGA cable.
>
> What is the secret?
>
> Ben W4SC
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Vic Rosenthal

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

I believe he's talking about the P3 with SVGA option.

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On 26/09/2020 19:33, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:

> What product is this for?
>
> 73, Jack, W6FB
>
>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 5:42 PM, w4sc <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I’ve read the manual, tried at least 10 memory sticks (a very BAD
>> location for the USB, some don’t fit because of VGA cable.
>>
>> What is the secret?
>>
>> Ben W4SC
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>

w4sc-2

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

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Hello Jack, Vic,

P3 / SVGA.

I have tried at least 10 different USB memory sticks, sizes 64 MB (yes Mega, probably a USB 1.x?), 128MB, 4GB, …. through 64GB, all USB 2.0. I have tried formatting NTFS, FAT32, and ExFAT. On a couple of the sticks I get a “Cannot Initialize Device” error. With most sticks nothing happens, no error. Initiating a “Save”, nothing happens. All sticks work in Windows 10 machine with no problem. I can see a RED LED on SVGA module flashing continuously.

I have reloaded all of the f/w today with no change.

The f/w loaded is the current available, and I have the latest utility. The external display is 1920 x 1080 which I changed to last month.

Any help appreciated.

Ben W4SC

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Vic Rosenthal

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

Pretty much my experience, except that I have had some cases in which
the transfer starts but then hangs up.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
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On 26/09/2020 22:24, w4sc wrote:

> Hello Jack, Vic,
>
> P3 / SVGA.
>
> I have tried at least 10 different USB memory sticks, sizes 64 MB
> (yes Mega, probably a USB 1.x?), 128MB, 4GB, …. through 64GB, all USB
> 2.0. I have tried formatting NTFS, FAT32, and ExFAT. On a couple of
> the sticks I get a “Cannot Initialize Device” error. With most
> sticks nothing happens, no error. Initiating a “Save”, nothing
> happens. All sticks work in Windows 10 machine with no problem. I
> can see a RED LED on SVGA module flashing continuously.
>
> I have reloaded all of the f/w today with no change.
>
> The f/w loaded is the current available, and I have the latest
> utility. The external display is 1920 x 1080 which I changed to last
> month.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Ben W4SC

k6mkf

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

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I have successfully captured a P3 screen image.

Elecraft P3 Utility > Capture Image Tab> Capture Image button - this captures the image then displays 'Bitmap copied to Windows Clipboard' - then paste from the Clipboard into Paint or other app and save in the image format of your choice.

My P3 manual states: "Connector openings {16}, {17}, {21}, and {22} are provided for future use." I think #22 is the USB port on the back of the P3.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of w4sc
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:25
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick
>
> Hello Jack, Vic,
>
> P3 / SVGA.
>
> I have tried at least 10 different USB memory sticks, sizes 64 MB (yes Mega,
> probably a USB 1.x?), 128MB, 4GB, …. through 64GB, all USB 2.0. I have tried
> formatting NTFS, FAT32, and ExFAT. On a couple of the sticks I get a “Cannot
> Initialize Device” error. With most sticks nothing happens, no error. Initiating a
> “Save”, nothing happens. All sticks work in Windows 10 machine with no
> problem. I can see a RED LED on SVGA module flashing continuously.
>
> I have reloaded all of the f/w today with no change.
>
> The f/w loaded is the current available, and I have the latest utility. The external
> display is 1920 x 1080 which I changed to last month.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Ben W4SC
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Don Wilhelm

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

Mike,

Connector #22 is a USB port for a keyboard, not a general USB port. It
is clearly labeled "KEYBOARD".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/26/2020 7:21 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> I have successfully captured a P3 screen image.
>
> Elecraft P3 Utility > Capture Image Tab> Capture Image button - this captures the image then displays 'Bitmap copied to Windows Clipboard' - then paste from the Clipboard into Paint or other app and save in the image format of your choice.
>
> My P3 manual states: "Connector openings {16}, {17}, {21}, and {22} are provided for future use." I think #22 is the USB port on the back of the P3.
>
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Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

Don:

> On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Connector #22 is a USB port for a keyboard, not a general USB port. It is clearly labeled "KEYBOARD".

You're absolutely correct to note the labeling and I’ve always presumed that is the connector is only for a keyboard.

However, the "P3 HIgh-Performance Owner’s Manual" (Revision F, 11 JAN 16 p.12) does have this description of that connector:

"KEYBOARD: USB jack for a USB keyboard or thumb drive (mass storage device). Apple keyboards are not supported at this time.”

So the wording does suggest compatibility with thumb drives, but from what I can tell there is no discussion in the “Owner’s Manual" about how to utilize a thumb drive. Perhaps this may be a feature that was never actually developed.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)

>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/26/2020 7:21 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
>> I have successfully captured a P3 screen image.
>> Elecraft P3 Utility > Capture Image Tab> Capture Image button - this captures the image then displays 'Bitmap copied to Windows Clipboard' - then paste from the Clipboard into Paint or other app and save in the image format of your choice.
>> My P3 manual states: "Connector openings {16}, {17}, {21}, and {22} are provided for future use." I think #22 is the USB port on the back of the P3.
>

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k6mkf

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

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Hi Don,

Yes, subsequently I saw the illustration with that port labeled ‘keyboard’.

I was looking at the P3 manual, and not the SVGA option manual.

The P3 Utility is the only way I’ve found that will do a screen capture - but always willing to learn something new.

-- 73 de Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

> On Sep 26, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Connector #22 is a USB port for a keyboard, not a general USB port. It is clearly labeled "KEYBOARD".
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 9/26/2020 7:21 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
>> I have successfully captured a P3 screen image.
>> Elecraft P3 Utility > Capture Image Tab> Capture Image button - this captures the image then displays 'Bitmap copied to Windows Clipboard' - then paste from the Clipboard into Paint or other app and save in the image format of your choice.
>> My P3 manual states: "Connector openings {16}, {17}, {21}, and {22} are provided for future use." I think #22 is the USB port on the back of the P3.

w4sc-2

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

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All,

There is a selection (SVGA Ubmp) in the SVGA menus that will, according to the P3 manual, save a bmp file to a memory stick. Ref pp 43, 33 in the P3 Owners Manual Rev H1.

Ben W4SC

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From: Barry Baines
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 21:52
To: Don Wilhelm
Cc: Mike Flowers; w4sc; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick

Don:

On Sep 26, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

Mike,

Connector #22 is a USB port for a keyboard, not a general USB port. It is clearly labeled "KEYBOARD".

You're absolutely correct to note the labeling and I’ve always presumed that is the connector is only for a keyboard.

However, the "P3 HIgh-Performance Owner’s Manual" (Revision F, 11 JAN 16 p.12) does have this description of that connector:

"KEYBOARD: USB jack for a USB keyboard or thumb drive (mass storage device). Apple keyboards are not supported at this time.”

So the wording does suggest compatibility with thumb drives, but from what I can tell there is no discussion in the “Owner’s Manual" about how to utilize a thumb drive. Perhaps this may be a feature that was never actually developed.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/26/2020 7:21 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:

I have successfully captured a P3 screen image.
Elecraft P3 Utility > Capture Image Tab> Capture Image button - this captures the image then displays 'Bitmap copied to Windows Clipboard' - then paste from the Clipboard into Paint or other app and save in the image format of your choice.
My P3 manual states: "Connector openings {16}, {17}, {21}, and {22} are provided for future use." I think #22 is the USB port on the back of the P3.

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Bill Frantz

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

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USB hubs were also not supported. Since all Apple keyboards have
a builtin hub, to ease connection of a mouse, the lack of hub
support knocked them out too.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 9/26/20 at 9:52 PM, [hidden email] (Barry Baines
via Elecraft) wrote:

>However, the "P3 HIgh-Performance Owner’s Manual" (Revision
>F, 11 JAN 16 p.12) does have this description of that connector:
>
>"KEYBOARD: USB jack for a USB keyboard or thumb drive (mass
>storage device). Apple keyboards are not supported at this time.”

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k6mkf

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

Seems to have been implemented in P3 firmware - see:

https://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/p3fwnotes.rtf

P3SVGA 01.16 / 02-26-2013 says:

"Added display of an onscreen message when a USB device (keyboard or MSD) is attached and detached."

I wonder if this message is appearing when a flash drive is inserted in the P3 USB port.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> On Behalf Of Bill Frantz
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 19:53
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick
>
> USB hubs were also not supported. Since all Apple keyboards have a builtin hub,
> to ease connection of a mouse, the lack of hub support knocked them out too.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 9/26/20 at 9:52 PM, [hidden email] (Barry Baines via Elecraft)
> wrote:
>
> >However, the "P3 HIgh-Performance Owner’s Manual" (Revision F, 11 JAN
> >16 p.12) does have this description of that connector:
> >
> >"KEYBOARD: USB jack for a USB keyboard or thumb drive (mass storage
> >device). Apple keyboards are not supported at this time.”
>
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k6mkf

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

Although not the definitive resource, I am unable for find a YouTube video of a successful USB device P3 screen capture.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Flowers <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 20:59
> To: 'Bill Frantz' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick
>
> Seems to have been implemented in P3 firmware - see:
>
> https://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/p3fwnotes.rtf
>
> P3SVGA 01.16 / 02-26-2013 says:
>
> "Added display of an onscreen message when a USB device (keyboard or MSD) is
> attached and detached."
>
> I wonder if this message is appearing when a flash drive is inserted in the P3 USB
> port.
>
> - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > <[hidden email]>
> > On Behalf Of Bill Frantz
> > Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 19:53
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick
> >
> > USB hubs were also not supported. Since all Apple keyboards have a
> > builtin hub, to ease connection of a mouse, the lack of hub support knocked
> them out too.
> >
> > 73 Bill AE6JV
> >
> > On 9/26/20 at 9:52 PM, [hidden email] (Barry Baines via
> > Elecraft)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >However, the "P3 HIgh-Performance Owner’s Manual" (Revision F, 11 JAN
> > >16 p.12) does have this description of that connector:
> > >
> > >"KEYBOARD: USB jack for a USB keyboard or thumb drive (mass storage
> > >device). Apple keyboards are not supported at this time.”
> >
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Nr4c

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

Use the P3 menu to set one of gibe sict buttons to this feature and when you wish to save a screen, just tap the button.

Don’t have a P3 anymore but this worked for me. Utility save only saves to computer file. The button saves to USB stick.

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...nr4c. bill

> On Sep 27, 2020, at 12:04 AM, Mike Flowers <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Although not the definitive resource, I am unable for find a YouTube video of a successful USB device P3 screen capture.
>
> - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Flowers <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 20:59
>> To: 'Bill Frantz' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick
>>
>> Seems to have been implemented in P3 firmware - see:
>>
>> https://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/p3fwnotes.rtf
>>
>> P3SVGA 01.16 / 02-26-2013 says:
>>
>> "Added display of an onscreen message when a USB device (keyboard or MSD) is
>> attached and detached."
>>
>> I wonder if this message is appearing when a flash drive is inserted in the P3 USB
>> port.
>>
>> - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> On Behalf Of Bill Frantz
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 19:53
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick
>>>
>>> USB hubs were also not supported. Since all Apple keyboards have a
>>> builtin hub, to ease connection of a mouse, the lack of hub support knocked
>> them out too.
>>>
>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>>
>>> On 9/26/20 at 9:52 PM, [hidden email] (Barry Baines via
>>> Elecraft)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> However, the "P3 HIgh-Performance Owner’s Manual" (Revision F, 11 JAN
>>>> 16 p.12) does have this description of that connector:
>>>>
>>>> "KEYBOARD: USB jack for a USB keyboard or thumb drive (mass storage
>>>> device). Apple keyboards are not supported at this time.”
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Bill Frantz | When it comes to the world | Periwinkle
>>> (408)348-7900 | around us, is there any choice | 150
>>> Rivermead Rd #235
>>> www.pwpconsult.com | but to explore? - Lisa Randall | Peterborough, NH
>>> 03458
>>>
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Clay Autery-2

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

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I've done it on my P3 w/ SVGA kit installed.... many times. I have a
screensaver set and I take captures of RFI.

Haven't done it in a while, so forgive me if I don't write a tutorial.

But it most definitely works if you have SVGA installed and updated
firmware.

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On 09/26/20 23:00, Mike Flowers wrote:

> Although not the definitive resource, I am unable for find a YouTube video of a successful USB device P3 screen capture.
>
> - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Flowers <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 20:59
>> To: 'Bill Frantz' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick
>>
>> Seems to have been implemented in P3 firmware - see:
>>
>> https://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/p3fwnotes.rtf
>>
>> P3SVGA 01.16 / 02-26-2013 says:
>>
>> "Added display of an onscreen message when a USB device (keyboard or MSD) is
>> attached and detached."
>>
>> I wonder if this message is appearing when a flash drive is inserted in the P3 USB
>> port.
>>
>> - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> On Behalf Of Bill Frantz
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 19:53
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SVGA Screen save to memory stick
>>>
>>> USB hubs were also not supported. Since all Apple keyboards have a
>>> builtin hub, to ease connection of a mouse, the lack of hub support knocked
>> them out too.
>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>>
>>> On 9/26/20 at 9:52 PM, [hidden email] (Barry Baines via
>>> Elecraft)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> However, the "P3 HIgh-Performance Owner’s Manual" (Revision F, 11 JAN
>>>> 16 p.12) does have this description of that connector:
>>>>
>>>> "KEYBOARD: USB jack for a USB keyboard or thumb drive (mass storage
>>>> device). Apple keyboards are not supported at this time.”
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Bill Frantz | When it comes to the world | Periwinkle
>>> (408)348-7900 | around us, is there any choice | 150
>>> Rivermead Rd #235
>>> www.pwpconsult.com | but to explore? - Lisa Randall | Peterborough, NH
>>> 03458
>>>
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Clay Autery-2

Re: SVGA Screen save to memory stick

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Excellent idea!

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On 09/27/20 03:03, Nr4c wrote:
> Use the P3 menu to set one of gibe sict buttons to this feature and when you wish to save a screen, just tap the button.
>
> Don’t have a P3 anymore but this worked for me. Utility save only saves to computer file. The button saves to USB stick.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
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