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Hi guys, hoping this discussion will be limited. However, that said...
For those that have experience, is the SVGA option really necessary for the P3? Does it really add a lot? I don’t need the keyboard/ digital features it adds, just asking if a larger (20”+) SVGA display is worth it or is the default smaller display just fine? Is there some scenario where the bigger display really makes the difference or is it that bigger is better rules? Thanks! 73 Michael KK6RWK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: SVGA for P3 - only looking for ten (10) replies (is that possible?)
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If you're doing split frequency DX chasing or Search & Pounce in
contests, the big screen is a VERY valuable resource. If you carefully adjust the Reference Level it will also allow you to see signals that are almost in the noise; this is good for weak signal work such as on 6 meters. I consider the SVGA option a very good investment. 73... Randy, W8FN On 7/22/2018 9:19 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote: > Hi guys, hoping this discussion will be limited. However, that said... > > For those that have experience, is the SVGA option really necessary for the P3? Does it really add a lot? I don’t need the keyboard/ digital features it adds, just asking if a larger (20”+) SVGA display is worth it or is the default smaller display just fine? Is there some scenario where the bigger display really makes the difference or is it that bigger is better rules? > > Thanks! > 73 > Michael > KK6RWK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have operated a friend’s station with the SVGA. He felt it was essential because of his eyesight. My eyes are not great, but I don’t have room for another monitor in my shack and find the P3 display to be fully adequate. Dave - K9FN On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 10:20 PM Michael Gillen via Elecraft < [hidden email]> wrote: > Hi guys, hoping this discussion will be limited. However, that said... > > For those that have experience, is the SVGA option really necessary for > the P3? Does it really add a lot? I don’t need the keyboard/ digital > features it adds, just asking if a larger (20”+) SVGA display is worth it > or is the default smaller display just fine? Is there some scenario where > the bigger display really makes the difference or is it that bigger is > better rules? > > Thanks! > 73 > Michael > KK6RWK > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Michael,
The SVGA option isn't "necessary" but it adds greatly to the utility of the P3. Its a common misunderstanding that the SVGA option is simply a video adapter. In fact its also an FFT processor with four times better resolution of the basic P3. Its best to use a full HD 1920 x 1080 monitor to fully exploit the high resolution of the P3 SVGA adapter. 73 Frank W3LPL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gillen via Elecraft" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:19:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] SVGA for P3 - only looking for ten (10) replies (is that possible?) Hi guys, hoping this discussion will be limited. However, that said... For those that have experience, is the SVGA option really necessary for the P3? Does it really add a lot? I don’t need the keyboard/ digital features it adds, just asking if a larger (20”+) SVGA display is worth it or is the default smaller display just fine? Is there some scenario where the bigger display really makes the difference or is it that bigger is better rules? Thanks! 73 Michael KK6RWK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 7/22/2018 7:27 PM, Randy Farmer wrote:
> If you're doing split frequency DX chasing or Search & Pounce in > contests, the big screen is a VERY valuable resource. If you carefully > adjust the Reference Level it will also allow you to see signals that > are almost in the noise; this is good for weak signal work such as on > 6 meters. I consider the SVGA option a very good investment. Thanks for writing what I was going to write, Randy! I'll also add that the SVGA GREATLY increases (up to about two minutes) the time that can be displayed in the waterfall, which is a HUGE help when trying to find a place to call CQ in a contest. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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And if you are using PSK or CW decoding, the SVGA gives you a
much larger decode window and so more time to read what is being decoded. 73 Bill AE6JV On 7/22/18 at 8:17 PM, [hidden email] (Jim Brown) wrote: >On 7/22/2018 7:27 PM, Randy Farmer wrote: >>If you're doing split frequency DX chasing or Search & Pounce >>in contests, the big screen is a VERY valuable resource. If >>you carefully adjust the Reference Level it will also allow >>you to see signals that are almost in the noise; this is good >>for weak signal work such as on 6 meters. I consider the SVGA >>option a very good investment. > >Thanks for writing what I was going to write, Randy! I'll >also add that the SVGA GREATLY increases (up to about two >minutes) the time that can be displayed in the waterfall, which >is a HUGE help when trying to find a place to call CQ in a contest. > >73, Jim K9YC --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Re: Computer reliability, performance, and security: 408-356-8506 | The guy who *is* wearing a parachute is *not* the www.pwpconsult.com | first to reach the ground. - Terence Kelly ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thanks to all who replied very informative and congratulations to the rest for holding back we only had seven (7) replies so not overwhelming :-)
To summarize the replies: Although the SVGA addition is very nice it is not absolutely necessary as the P3 as it is provides adequate resolution in its smaller (8”?) display. However the benefits of the SVGA option include: Better “view” into the spectrum when operating Split/chasing DX With the better resolution comes the ability to “see” smaller signals and pull them out of the noise With the larger display there is more physical area to see things including longer timeline of the waterfall (two minutes?) Easier to see if eyesight is diminished/diminishing for us older folks Quicker to glance over and see the important stuff as it is larger The built-in FFT processor provides much better resolution (4x?) and 1080p (1920x1080) Larger decode window for PSK/CW modes So the consensus is that the option is worth the cost if you have room for the monitor (which really can be anywhere from 20” up) however the P3 stands on its own quite nicely. My P3 arrives today sans SVGA option so I’m going to use it for a while “barefoot” (Hi Hi) before I decide to add in the SVGA. 73 Michael KK6RWK > On Jul 23, 2018, at 7:27 AM, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote: > > And if you are using PSK or CW decoding, the SVGA gives you a much larger decode window and so more time to read what is being decoded. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 7/22/18 at 8:17 PM, [hidden email] (Jim Brown) wrote: > >> On 7/22/2018 7:27 PM, Randy Farmer wrote: >>> If you're doing split frequency DX chasing or Search & Pounce in contests, the big screen is a VERY valuable resource. If you carefully adjust the Reference Level it will also allow you to see signals that are almost in the noise; this is good for weak signal work such as on 6 meters. I consider the SVGA option a very good investment. >> >> Thanks for writing what I was going to write, Randy! I'll also add that the SVGA GREATLY increases (up to about two minutes) the time that can be displayed in the waterfall, which is a HUGE help when trying to find a place to call CQ in a contest. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Re: Computer reliability, performance, and security: > 408-356-8506 | The guy who *is* wearing a parachute is *not* the > www.pwpconsult.com | first to reach the ground. - Terence Kelly > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The P3 itself is fine for me. I'm a casual operator and even more
casual contester. I know that, if you run in the top DX/Contest circles, it is very useful. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 7/22/2018 7:19 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote: > Hi guys, hoping this discussion will be limited. However, that said... > > For those that have experience, is the SVGA option really necessary for the P3? Does it really add a lot? I don’t need the keyboard/ digital features it adds, just asking if a larger (20”+) SVGA display is worth it or is the default smaller display just fine? Is there some scenario where the bigger display really makes the difference or is it that bigger is better rules? > > Thanks! > 73 > Michael > KK6RWK > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I really wish it were possible to implement the features of NaP3 on to
the display. Mouse click QSY and internet spots would be a huge benefit. Has anyone done this? Buck, k4ia Honor Roll 8BDXCC EasyWayHamBooks.com On 7/23/2018 1:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > The P3 itself is fine for me. I'm a casual operator and even more > casual contester. I know that, if you run in the top DX/Contest > circles, it is very useful. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > On 7/22/2018 7:19 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote: >> Hi guys, hoping this discussion will be limited. However, that said... >> >> For those that have experience, is the SVGA option really necessary >> for the P3? Does it really add a lot? I don’t need the keyboard/ >> digital features it adds, just asking if a larger (20”+) SVGA display >> is worth it or is the default smaller display just fine? Is there some >> scenario where the bigger display really makes the difference or is it >> that bigger is better rules? >> >> Thanks! >> 73 >> Michael >> KK6RWK >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I think it unlikely that it could support spots easily, but I agree that
it would be very valuable to be able to use a mouse to click on signals to QSY. I know the P3 has a turn 'n push knob, but mouse interaction would be a lot faster. For those that generally hold a frequency during normal CW/SSB contesting, you may not care for or need a large waterfall display. For those of us little pistols that resort to 'search 'n pounce', it's a miracle worker. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE > I really wish it were possible to implement the features of NaP3 on to > the display. Mouse click QSY and internet spots would be a huge > benefit. Has anyone done this? > > Buck, k4ia > Honor Roll > 8BDXCC > EasyWayHamBooks.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This weekend I had my large monitor hooked to my SVGA output on the P3 for
the Special Event Station at NVCON. The ability to show off more features of the use of a panadapter to all of the folks who stopped by really helped. I could see a better color spectrum on the FT8 signals and the RTTY signals. I had a number of Elecraft users who had P3 without SVGA monitors comment that it would be the next upgrade that they would be making to their stations after seeing it live! The longer time shown on the waterfall is a big help during contests. 73, Jim W6US ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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And with that let's rest this thread for now (since we are past the original
poster's request of 7 or less replies.. :-) 73, Eric Mooderator /elecraft.com/ On 7/23/2018 1:35 PM, Jim Shepherd wrote: > This weekend I had my large monitor hooked to my SVGA output on the P3 for > the Special Event Station at NVCON. The ability to show off more features > of the use of a panadapter to all of the folks who stopped by really > helped. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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