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Don Wilhelm

Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with
using Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to
the page.

This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at
Elecraft and approved.

As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other
amateur transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the
common internet advice.

73,
Don W3FPR
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Nr4c

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

Thanks, Don.

I have followed these instructions for years and data modes are not difficult.

My biggest issue has been with software and not realizing how many little check boxes and other items in varied locations can affect the pleasure or distaste for digital applications. Such as using RTTY and every time I try to run the software resets my mode to FSK and I'm using a sound card! Oh yeah, there is a option for that somewhere in the program, just need to find it.

Anyway. Good on you for adding this to your website.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with using Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
> Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to the page.
>
> This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at Elecraft and approved.
>
> As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other amateur transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the common internet advice.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
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Don Wilhelm

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

Bill,

My fingers were getting raw from repeating that info last week. I hope
it helps several who are having problems.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/12/2017 3:12 PM, Nr4c wrote:

> Thanks, Don.
>
> I have followed these instructions for years and data modes are not difficult.
>
> My biggest issue has been with software and not realizing how many little check boxes and other items in varied locations can affect the pleasure or distaste for digital applications. Such as using RTTY and every time I try to run the software resets my mode to FSK and I'm using a sound card! Oh yeah, there is a option for that somewhere in the program, just need to find it.
>
> Anyway. Good on you for adding this to your website.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with using Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
>> Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to the page.
>>
>> This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at Elecraft and approved.
>>
>> As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other amateur transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the common internet advice.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

I agree with Don. It appears that many seem to make a simple solution much to complex. Stop and think about the elements or points that control audio levels. And don't forget, if you use the computer for other sound card applications, it may change levels. It may be necessary to make notes as to values or settings until you feel comfortable with each application.

Here to assist.

Bob, K4TAX

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> On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> My fingers were getting raw from repeating that info last week. I hope it helps several who are having problems.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 9/12/2017 3:12 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> Thanks, Don.
>>
>> I have followed these instructions for years and data modes are not difficult.
>>
>> My biggest issue has been with software and not realizing how many little check boxes and other items in varied locations can affect the pleasure or distaste for digital applications. Such as using RTTY and every time I try to run the software resets my mode to FSK and I'm using a sound card! Oh yeah, there is a option for that somewhere in the program, just need to find it.
>>
>> Anyway. Good on you for adding this to your website.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with using Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
>>> Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to the page.
>>>
>>> This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at Elecraft and approved.
>>>
>>> As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other amateur transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the common internet advice.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
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Tommy

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

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Don,

Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
works fine. It seems.

Tom - KB2SMS

KX2 #01927

On 09/12/2017 01:47 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with
> using Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
> Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to
> the page.
>
> This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at
> Elecraft and approved.
>
> As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other
> amateur transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the
> common internet advice.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR

Don Wilhelm

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

Tom,

Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to
zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.

So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other
modes when using DATA A.

That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change
it when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression
nor equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:
> Don,
>
> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
> works fine. It seems.
>
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Jim AB3CV

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

DATA A also avoids something I hear too often which is an open Mic while
doing data modes.

jim ab3cv

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to zero
> and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.
>
> So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other
> modes when using DATA A.
>
> That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change it
> when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression nor
> equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:
>
>> Don,
>>
>> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
>> works fine. It seems.
>>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm

> Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to
> zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.

*AND* RX EQ is set to flat - again to minimize distortion on RECEIVE.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 9/12/2017 9:15 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to
> zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.
>
> So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other
> modes when using DATA A.
>
> That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change
> it when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression
> nor equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:
>> Don,
>>
>> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
>> works fine. It seems.
>>
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rich hurd WC3T

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

In reply to this post by Tommy

Using DATA A will disable many of the audio processing, such as the MIC
gain, RX/TX equalization, and audio compression functions. These are
needed to help in between-the-ears processing but sometimes are
counterproductive in DATA modes.

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On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Tommy <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Don,
>
> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
> works fine. It seems.
>
> Tom - KB2SMS
>
> KX2 #01927
>
>
> On 09/12/2017 01:47 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>> I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with
>> using Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
>> Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to the
>> page.
>>
>> This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at
>> Elecraft and approved.
>>
>> As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other
>> amateur transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the common
>> internet advice.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
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Nr4c

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

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Don
Does DATA A also set audio in to Line In?

This makes switching modes seamless. No changes to make.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Sep 12, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.
>
> So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other modes when using DATA A.
>
> That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change it when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression nor equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:
>> Don,
>> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it works fine. It seems.
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rich hurd WC3T

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

I don't see how it could. It controls the Elecraft interface and
hardware. It doesn't talk back to the computer.

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 23:44 Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Don
> Does DATA A also set audio in to Line In?
>
> This makes switching modes seamless. No changes to make.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Sep 12, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to
> zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.
> >
> > So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other
> modes when using DATA A.
> >
> > That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change
> it when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression nor
> equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> >> On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:
> >> Don,
> >> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
> works fine. It seems.
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Don Wilhelm

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

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Bill,

The choice of input in DATA A mode is "sticky".
You choose the input with the MIC SEL menu, and it stays that way until
you change it.
So yes, once you select LINE IN, switching is automatic after that.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/12/2017 11:44 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> Don
> Does DATA A also set audio in to Line In?
>
> This makes switching modes seamless. No changes to make.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>

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rich hurd WC3T

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

Don,

Is this a KX3 menu? I don't see a MIC SEL option. I might have to wipe
the egg off my face. :)

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 07:16 Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> The choice of input in DATA A mode is "sticky".
> You choose the input with the MIC SEL menu, and it stays that way until
> you change it.
> So yes, once you select LINE IN, switching is automatic after that.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/12/2017 11:44 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> > Don
> > Does DATA A also set audio in to Line In?
> >
> > This makes switching modes seamless. No changes to make.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
>
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Don Wilhelm

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

The MIC SEL is available in the K3/K3S, but not in the KX2/3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/13/2017 7:29 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
> Don,
>
> Is this a KX3 menu? I don't see a MIC SEL option. I might have to
> wipe the egg off my face. :)
>

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Nr4c

Re: Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

Well sure. It doesn't have a Line In option. There is only a Mic in.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Sep 13, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The MIC SEL is available in the K3/K3S, but not in the KX2/3.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 9/13/2017 7:29 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
>> Don,
>>
>> Is this a KX3 menu? I don't see a MIC SEL option. I might have to wipe the egg off my face. :)
>>
>