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Sherwood on K3 AGC transients

wayne burdick
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Ian wrote:

> Did Rob comment on pops and transients generated in the AGC and DSP?
>
> That was  the subject of his presentation at Dayton 2007, where he gave
> many examples to show that "New IF DSP designs [can] seriously
> exaggerate transient noise on weak signals... Some DSP radios make QRN
> much worse."
>
> He also said, "I can’t wait to listen to the K3 to see if they got it
> right." And...?


According to Rob, we did "get it right." He told us that his test pulse
resulted in essentially no upward S-meter movement or AGC activation.
(Rob mentioned that he'd be adding a column to his table to indicate
which rigs pass this test and which don't.)

To achieve this, we created a DSP algorithm that can tell the
difference between transient pulses and useful signals, over a fairly
wide amplitude and duration range. Obviously you can't remove all such
transients -- some have complex waveforms and long durations and are
better dealt with using a combination of noise blanking and noise
reduction. But it works very well on most "shot" events.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: Sherwood on K3 AGC transients

gm3sek
wayne burdick wrote:

>Ian wrote:
>
>> Did Rob comment on pops and transients generated in the AGC and DSP?
>>
>> That was  the subject of his presentation at Dayton 2007, where he gave
>> many examples to show that "New IF DSP designs [can] seriously
>> exaggerate transient noise on weak signals... Some DSP radios make QRN
>> much worse."
>>
>> He also said, "I can’t wait to listen to the K3 to see if they got it
>> right." And...?
>
>
>According to Rob, we did "get it right." He told us that his test pulse
>resulted in essentially no upward S-meter movement or AGC activation.
>(Rob mentioned that he'd be adding a column to his table to indicate
>which rigs pass this test and which don't.)
>
>To achieve this, we created a DSP algorithm that can tell the
>difference between transient pulses and useful signals, over a fairly
>wide amplitude and duration range. Obviously you can't remove all such
>transients -- some have complex waveforms and long durations and are
>better dealt with using a combination of noise blanking and noise
>reduction. But it works very well on most "shot" events.
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR

Excellent - thank you, Wayne and Rob.


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