Signing QRP

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I hate when guys sign QRP...especially in a contest.  An absolute waste of time and makes the reception of the guys call more difficult.  Usually the QRP guys are weak and I usually get the Q or the R or the P as part of his call.  Don't do it.


Bill K4XS/KH7XS
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[Charlie T, K3ICH]

Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL.  You are NOT operating portable
on the isle or QRP.
Chas

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I hate when guys sign QRP...especially in a contest.  An absolute waste of
time and makes the reception of the guys call more difficult.  Usually the
QRP guys are weak and I usually get the Q or the R or the P as part of his
call.  Don't do it.


Bill K4XS/KH7XS
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[N2TK]

Maybe it has been changed, but I remember reading a number of years ago
something in part 97 about for stateside functions you can pretty much put
what you want before and/or after the call. Brain is getting a little fuzzy
when you get this old, so maybe I dreamed it? :-)

73,
W2/N2TK/N2

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Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL.  You are NOT operating portable
on the isle or QRP.
Chas

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I hate when guys sign QRP...especially in a contest.  An absolute waste of
time and makes the reception of the guys call more difficult.  Usually the
QRP guys are weak and I usually get the Q or the R or the P as part of his
call.  Don't do it.


Bill K4XS/KH7XS
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[Joe Subich, W4TV-4]

On 7/27/2017 8:16 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
 > Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL.

That is not correct in areas regulated by the US FCC.

The rules state in §97.119(c):

> One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each
 > indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark
 > (/) or by any suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an
 > indicator is self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or
 > both before and after, the call sign. No self-assigned indicator
 > may conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules
 > or with any prefix assigned to another country.

The callsign block QAA-QZZ is not assigned by ITU and thus /QRP does
not conflict with any prefix assigned to another country or any
indicator (e.g., /AE, /AG, /KT) specified by the Rules.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 7/27/2017 8:16 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

> Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL.  You are NOT operating portable
> on the isle or QRP.
> Chas
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> I hate when guys sign QRP...especially in a contest.  An absolute waste of
> time and makes the reception of the guys call more difficult.  Usually the
> QRP guys are weak and I usually get the Q or the R or the P as part of his
> call.  Don't do it.
>
>
> Bill K4XS/KH7XS
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[Charlie T, K3ICH]

Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL.  You are NOT operating portable
on the isle of QRP.
Chas

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I hate when guys sign QRP...especially in a contest.  An absolute waste of
time and makes the reception of the guys call more difficult.  Usually the
QRP guys are weak and I usually get the Q or the R or the P as part of his
call.  Don't do it.


Bill K4XS/KH7XS
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[k6dgw]

No, it is not illegal or non-compliant in the USand never has been.
47CFR97 permits *any* self-assigned indicator(s)beforeor after the call
sign, or both, *except* an indicator that duplicates an FCC assigned
indicator [AG, AA, AE, KT], or any indicator that duplicates an
ITU-assigned prefix.  Indicators are *not* confined to islands or
locations, they can mean anything you want.  There can be more than one
before and/or after:

QRP/QSX7027R5/K6DGW/6OVER6OVER6STACK ... I'm running less than 5 W,
listening on 7027.5and I'm using a 6over 6 over 6 yagi stack is
compliant ... incredibly stupid and foolish, but compliant.

Common non-compliant indicators are:

/M - I'm a mobile.  All the M's belong to the UK
/R - I'm a repeater.  All the R's belong to Russia
/PM - I'm a pedestrian and I'm on the air.  PM belongs to Indonesia
/MM - I'm afloat.  See /M
/AM _ I'm aloft. AM-AO belong to Spain

Possibly compliant:

/P - I'm portable.  The P's are split and all ITU "P" prefixes have more
than one letter/digit.

Compliant:

/Q<anything> - There are no prefixes beginning with Q, that sequence is
reserved for the International Q-signals, of which QRP is one.

The custom is to log mobiles in State/Province QSO parties as /<county
abbrev>to permit working a mobile in different counties on the same
band.  The FCC doesn't care how you log a station.  The mobile can be
compliant simply by not making the county abbreviation an "indicator"
[i.e. no "/"]

Last time I checked, no one has ever gone to jail or paid a fine for
violations to this regulation. One question that has always nagged at me:

If a station running 5 W or less needs to send /QRP, whyshouldn't
everyone running over 5 W [or some arbitrary power] send /QRO? This
thread will end, probably soon, but it will also recur... it always does.

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn


On 7/27/2017 5:16 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
> Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL.  You are NOT operating portable
> on the isle or QRP.
> Chas
>

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[NK7Z]

Least we leave out the most important suffix--

/E8172 - I own Elecraft radio serial number 08172

Now the thread is compliant as well...  It is still about Elecraft things!

On 07/27/2017 10:31 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:
 > Common non-compliant indicators are:
 >
 > /M - I'm a mobile.  All the M's belong to the UK
 > /R - I'm a repeater.  All the R's belong to Russia
 > /PM - I'm a pedestrian and I'm on the air.  PM belongs to Indonesia
 > /MM - I'm afloat.  See /M
 > /AM _ I'm aloft. AM-AO belong to Spain


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
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