Signing "/QRP"

Until this thread I had no idea that signing /QRP was illegal in some
countries. I never log stations this way and I typically come back to a
station calling me by just sending just their callsign.  I have had many
stations "correct" me, adding the /QRP. Operating with 5 watts can be a
fun challenge. I have done it with good antennas and had amazing results
however I have never signed /QRP. I am sure that the majority of contest
stations that I worked could not care less what my power level was.

John KK9A


Walter Underwood wrote:
Wed Jul 26 19:04:37 EDT 2017

I know this OT string is getting long, but I looked this up in the current
IARU “Ethics and Operating Procedures for the Radio Amateur”, the Region 2
edition. Some nincompoop generated a PDF that doesn’t allow copying the
text, but my Safari browser ignores that bit, so I can quote it here. I’m
not sure how much of the formatting will come through, but the rest of
this message is copied from section II.9.16 of that document.


• Never send your call as ‘ G3ZZZ/QRP’, this is illegal in many countries
(e.g. Belgium). The QRP information is not part of your callsign, so it
cannot be sent as a part of it. In many countries the only permitted call
suffixes are /P, /A, /M, /MM and /AM..

•  If you are really a QRP station, chances are that you will be
relatively weak with the station you are calling. Adding unnecessary
ballast (the slash and the letters QRP) to your callsign will make it even
more difficult to decipher your callsign!

•  You can of course always mention during the QSO you a re a QRP
station, e.g.: ‘...PWR 5W 5W ONLY...’.

•  If you call CQ as a QRP station and you want to announce that during
your CQ, you can do it as follows: ‘ CQ CQ G3ZZZ G3ZZZ QRP A R’. Insert a
little extra space between the call and ‘ QRP’ and do not send a slash (
DAH DIT DIT DAH DIT) between your call and ‘QRP’.

•  If you’re looking for QRP stations specifically, call CQ as follows: ‘
CQ QRP CQ QRP G3ZZZ G3ZZZ QRP STNS (stations) ONLY AR’.


wunder
K6WRU

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[Rick M0LEP-2]

On Thu 27 Jul [hidden email] wrote:
> I had no idea that signing /QRP was illegal in some countries.

Different jurisdictions have different ideas about identification
requirements, and licence wording is sometimes open to interpretation.
For example:

In the UK the licence says that operators "may use" certain suffixes.
The only ones included are "/M", "/P", "/MM" and "/A". You could infer
from the "may use" wording that these suffixes are permitted and that
therefore all other suffixes are forbidden, or you could just assume
that these four are picked out in the licence but there's no explicit
prohibition against anything else being used. It would probably require
a court decision to detemine which of those options actually applies. I
have no desire to be involved in such a court case, so I'll use no
suffixes other than the ones the licence says I "may use".

In the Kenya licence, the wording is "shall use", which makes it clear
that no other suffixes are permitted. The only suffixes mentioned in the
licence are "/P" (for use at a temporary location), "/M" (for use when
mobile) and "/MM" (for use when on a vessel at sea). If no suffix is
attached to a Kenya callsign then the operator must be at their main
station address, so, if you hear me signing as 5Z4/M0LEP then I'm at my
mother's house (and nowhere else) and if I sign as 5Z4/M0LEP/P I'm
elsewhere in Kenya. Log me as 5Z4/M0LEP when I've signed as 5Z4/M0LEP/P
(or vice versa) and you'll have a busted call.

....and incidentally, all the contacts I've made as 5Z4/M0LEP/P have been
using my KX3 with simple in-the-field antennas. ;)

--
73, Rick, M0LEP   (KX3 #3281)

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[Ted Edwards W3TB]

A variation of this concern Stateside is the matter of putting country
abbreviations on callsigns within State QSO Parties for mobile and
expeditionary/rover operations.  I have done that for many years as an
expeditionary station in the Virginia QSO Party, and it helps for stations
to know you have changed counties so they can work you again.

I don't think there is any USA rule on that matter, but we all need to know
and abide by our own rules.
I also have a callsign in the UK and have followed the /p and /m when there.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Rick M0LEP <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Thu 27 Jul [hidden email] wrote:
> > I had no idea that signing /QRP was illegal in some countries.
>
> Different jurisdictions have different ideas about identification
> requirements, and licence wording is sometimes open to interpretation.
> For example:
>
> In the UK the licence says that operators "may use" certain suffixes.
> The only ones included are "/M", "/P", "/MM" and "/A". You could infer
> from the "may use" wording that these suffixes are permitted and that
> therefore all other suffixes are forbidden, or you could just assume
> that these four are picked out in the licence but there's no explicit
> prohibition against anything else being used. It would probably require
> a court decision to detemine which of those options actually applies. I
> have no desire to be involved in such a court case, so I'll use no
> suffixes other than the ones the licence says I "may use".
>
> In the Kenya licence, the wording is "shall use", which makes it clear
> that no other suffixes are permitted. The only suffixes mentioned in the
> licence are "/P" (for use at a temporary location), "/M" (for use when
> mobile) and "/MM" (for use when on a vessel at sea). If no suffix is
> attached to a Kenya callsign then the operator must be at their main
> station address, so, if you hear me signing as 5Z4/M0LEP then I'm at my
> mother's house (and nowhere else) and if I sign as 5Z4/M0LEP/P I'm
> elsewhere in Kenya. Log me as 5Z4/M0LEP when I've signed as 5Z4/M0LEP/P
> (or vice versa) and you'll have a busted call.
>
> ....and incidentally, all the contacts I've made as 5Z4/M0LEP/P have been
> using my KX3 with simple in-the-field antennas. ;)
>
> --
> 73, Rick, M0LEP   (KX3 #3281)
>
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--
73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW

and thinking about operating CW:
"Do today what others won't,
so you can do tomorrow what others can't."
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