Six-meter scanning

[n7ws]

I see in the manual that in "some countries" scanning of some bands isn't allowed and in some countries six-meter scanning may be disabled.

My radio will not scan six-meters, so I checked the archives and saw that others have asked about this.  Unless I'm mistaken (always a good possibility) there has been no "official" response from Elecraft.

There was some talk about it being an FCC limitation.  However, (other than receivers that cover the cellular phone bands, with their own special limitations) the pertinent regulation seems to be covered in 47 CFR 15.5 (definitions) where I read:

  (v) Scanning receiver. For the purpose of this part, this is a receiver that automatically switches among two or more frequencies in the range of 30 to 960 MHz and that is capable of stopping at and receiving a radio signal detected on a frequency. Receivers designed solely for the reception of the broadcast signals under part 73 of this chapter, for the reception of NOAA broadcast weather band signals, or for operation as part of a licensed service are not included in this definition.

The last time I checked the Amateur Service was both a "service" and "licensed".  Unless I'm mistaken (again) the K3 isn't defined as a "Scanning receiver" so why isn't scanning optional on six-meters?

Wes  N7WS


     
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html

[David Woolley (E.L)]

Wes Stewart wrote:
> There was some talk about it being an FCC limitation. However, (other
> than receivers that cover the cellular phone bands, with their own
> special limitations) the pertinent regulation seems to be covered in 47
> CFR 15.5 (definitions) where I read:

My understanding is that the problem is that they have to prove to the
FCC that scanning is disabled outside the amateur band, and there is a
cost in doing this.  I imagine they would have to repeat the process
every time they issued new firmware.

>


--
David Woolley
"The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to
Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio"
List Guidelines <http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm>
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html

[G3TCT]

Given that the FCC has no jurisdiction outside the US, can we non-US guys be
given a fix for this?  And what's so wrong about scanning outside ham bands
anyway - I've been listening to band 1 TV carriers for decades!

Graham

>David Woolley (E.L) wrote

> Wes Stewart wrote:
> > There was some talk about it being an FCC limitation. However, (other
> > than receivers that cover the cellular phone bands, with their own
> > special limitations) the pertinent regulation seems to be covered in 47
> > CFR 15.5 (definitions) where I read:
>
> My understanding is that the problem is that they have to prove to the
> FCC that scanning is disabled outside the amateur band, and there is a
> cost in doing this.  I imagine they would have to repeat the process
> every time they issued new firmware.
>

______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html

[David Woolley (E.L)]

Graham Kimbell (G3TCT) wrote:
> Given that the FCC has no jurisdiction outside the US, can we non-US guys be
> given a fix for this?  And what's so wrong about scanning outside ham bands
> anyway - I've been listening to band 1 TV carriers for decades!

I think that the original quote said outside ham and broadcast bands.

However, as you are the UK, it is illegal to listen, let alone scan, on
most frequencies outside those bands.  The US position used to be you
could listen to anything.  They then added restrictions for cellular
frequencies.  The UK starting position is that you can listen to
nothing, and then the government uses class licences and paid for
licences, to selectively relax that.

What the UK does tend to do is ban reception based on use/intention,
rather than equipment capability.


--
David Woolley
Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want.
RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam,
that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work.
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:[hidden email]

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html