Sneak Preview: New Elecraft products

[wayne burdick]

Steve Ellington wrote:

> There must be a good market for wattmeters these days in spite of the
> fact that most rigs and amplifiers have internal meters.

We've long wanted to create a really high-quality LED power/SWR meter.
This project has been in the works for quite a while, and is in fact a
superset of our "W1" mini-module wattmeter. A lot more LEDs, remote
sensors, etc.


> Gosh, I would have thunk a K3-S external speaker would be an easy
> sell....

That's another one of my projects, and I haven't had time to finish it.
I built one prototype that looks great but still needs some acoustic
tweaks. It won't get out of my lab until it's a big improvement on the
K3's internal speaker.


> and a panadapter....

(Doh!) Why didn't I think of that?


73,
Wayne
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This not a very kind comment.  Guess what...they are running their own business!  They can do what they want.  I think it is great they have a nice watt meter for sale - and the two meter option is great too. Who needs a stinkin' panadapter?  I make Qs without one.  Gee, can you whiny type guys give Wayne and Eric a break?  I find this comment to be unfair and just noise to the reflector.  Try griping to the President and CEO of Yaesu, Kenwood, or Icom..  You won't get far.

Tuning off frequency now.....

Lee - K0WA
"Do you want some cheese with that Whine?"

From: Fern <[hidden email]>

I much agree that a panadapter would or should have been on their priority list
rather than what they've just announced especially the wattmeter portion.
Fern with K3 #412


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[N5GE]

On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:48:02 -0700, "Erik N Basilier"
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>I have been eyeing the 2m transverter because of an old thing I have about
>2m cw and ssb. Really irrational, since neither has any activity here in AZ.
>My first reaction to the news was, wow, I bet the new K3 option will cost
>less than the transverter, but will it have an oven option? Then when I saw
>that it will depend on the K3 frequency, it looked even better. Only issue
>now is I'd need a kilowatt and moonbounce to get to use it (I am not a fan
>of FM), and 10 W may not be enough to drive a tube to 1 kW.
>
>73,
>Erik K7TV
>

[snip]

Yes, ten watts will not drive my TE Systems to full output, but 15
will.

Tom, N5GE
K3 #806, K3 #1055
XV144, XV432
W1 and other small kits.
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[Doug Shields-2]

Wayne,
     The new products look great.  I must admit I was disappointed that both
are "no soldering" items.  I was hoping that the wattmeter would involve
melting some solder and winding a few toroids.
    I will order the wattmeter when they are available and my next K3 will
eventually have the 2 meter board.  Please throw us serious builders a bone
with the next project.  Sure wish I could join you at Dayton, but maybe next
year.

Doug  W4DAS

> See you at Dayton :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf

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[Steve Ellington]

"Whiny Type"
Name calling is out of order for the reflector.

Steve Ellington
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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sneak Preview: New Elecraft products - What?


This not a very kind comment. Guess what...they are running their own
business! They can do what they want. I think it is great they have a nice
watt meter for sale - and the two meter option is great too. Who needs a
stinkin' panadapter? I make Qs without one. Gee, can you whiny type guys
give Wayne and Eric a break? I find this comment to be unfair and just noise
to the reflector. Try griping to the President and CEO of Yaesu, Kenwood, or
Icom.. You won't get far.

Tuning off frequency now.....

Lee - K0WA
"Do you want some cheese with that Whine?"

From: Fern <[hidden email]>

I much agree that a panadapter would or should have been on their priority
list
rather than what they've just announced especially the wattmeter portion.
Fern with K3 #412


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[M0XDF]

Suppose I want 3 sensors to the W2, and don't want to buy a 2nd W2  
just yet :-)
Since the sensors connect to the W@ via CAT5, presumably they use  
RJ45s - could I just plug'n'play?
Will a sensor still pass RF ok without being plugged in? I bet it will?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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good things that happen to you on a piece of marble. -Arabian wisdom

On 13 May 2009, at 17:44, wayne burdick wrote:

> See you at Dayton :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf

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[M0XDF]

ah, so a switch box would work well with that
of course, buying a second W2 might be an option, depends upon cost
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--  
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david ferrington, 1953 -

On 14 May 2009, at 14:11, Robert Friess wrote:

> Yes they will.
>
> Bob, N6CM
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2009, at 5:11 AM, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
>
>> Suppose I want 3 sensors to the W2, and don't want to buy a 2nd W2
>> just yet :-)
>> Since the sensors connect to the W@ via CAT5, presumably they use
>> RJ45s - could I just plug'n'play?
>> Will a sensor still pass RF ok without being plugged in? I bet it  
>> will?
>>

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[Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO]

wayne burdick wrote:

>> and a panadapter....
>
> (Doh!) Why didn't I think of that?

There have been a number of back-handed hints over the past day or two that the
panadaptor IS coming, and in my estimation Real Soon Now. Just a SWAG, no
insider information, but the clues are there IMO.

Hang tight...

Bill W5WVO

>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR

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[Greg Storms-2]

Hey Guys and Gals,

I'll bet the Elecrafters have left at least one thing they have been
working on to be a *suprise* at Dayton.  Could it be? :-)

73,

Greg
KD7SRC

wayne burdick wrote:

> Steve Ellington wrote:
>
>  
>> There must be a good market for wattmeters these days in spite of the
>> fact that most rigs and amplifiers have internal meters.
>>    
>
> We've long wanted to create a really high-quality LED power/SWR meter.
> This project has been in the works for quite a while, and is in fact a
> superset of our "W1" mini-module wattmeter. A lot more LEDs, remote
> sensors, etc.
>
>
>  
>> Gosh, I would have thunk a K3-S external speaker would be an easy
>> sell....
>>    
>
> That's another one of my projects, and I haven't had time to finish it.
> I built one prototype that looks great but still needs some acoustic
> tweaks. It won't get out of my lab until it's a big improvement on the
> K3's internal speaker.
>
>
>  
>> and a panadapter....
>>    
>
> (Doh!) Why didn't I think of that?
>
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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[Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone]]

Hm.  Elecraft doesn't have to supply all your needs.

Someone wanted the W2 to follow a band selection.  It's likely the
switch could be replaced with a relay connected to DIGOUT1 and that
used to select two sensors.  If you want more possibilities, you could
probably build an external switching array driven by the BAND0-3
outputs.

10W on 2M is enough for many uses, and can drive an amp for more.
Since I have a 2M amp (TE1452G) rated for 25W input, I'll have to see
what works for me (a W2 sensor for high power VHF would be useful for
that, but...).

A K3-sized box for home-brew would be good, but there's no reason that
it must come from Elecraft.  I suspect that Byers Chassis would do an
10 7/8" width if you want it.  Or someone could do drawings and find a
metal shop to do a blank box pretty easily- the basic design is the
same as the K2, and I fabricated a similar box pretty easily (it does
use thicker material, which would make this more difficult for me).
Hm, It's clear I could get stock bits from Byers that could be made into a
K3-sized box pretty easily.

There are a number of amps that can work nicely with the K3 (and are
often much cheaper than the projected K800/K1500 price).

Yes, some of us get our radios as appliances, but if you want
something out of the ordinary, then building or modifying isn't that
difficult.

73, doug



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[Jim Brown-10]

On Thu, 14 May 2009 13:31:49 -0400 (EDT), Doug Faunt N6TQS wrote:


>10W on 2M is enough for many uses, and can drive an amp for more.
>Since I have a 2M amp (TE1452G) rated for 25W input,

Yes. In the world of "high performance" VHF and UHF, 10 watts out from
the transverter is pretty much a standard. The RF Concepts "brick" amps
are excellent, include decent preamps, and sell for moderate prices in
the used market. There are versions of these amps that will get you 170
watts with 2W, 10W, or 35W drive. The older Mirage amps (pre-Mississippi)
are also winners.

>There are a number of amps that can work nicely with the K3 (and are
>often much cheaper than the projected K800/K1500 price).

Yes. Lots of K3s are driving Ten Tec Titans, Herc IIs, and various models
of Alphas. All are capable of full QSK using the delay built into the K3.
I use a pair of K3s and Titan 425s in my shack for SO2R, and a Herc II
for portable operation. I get full output from mine with 30-50 watts.
Titans in good shape go for around $1,500 with their power supply, Herc
IIs for around $800 without a power supply (they run on 13.8V). These are
vintage amps (early 80s), well designed, transmit a clean signal, are
well documented, and are fairly easy to work on.

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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[N5GE]

On Thu, 14 May 2009 11:04:57 -0700, "Jim Brown"
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 May 2009 13:31:49 -0400 (EDT), Doug Faunt N6TQS wrote:
>
>
>>10W on 2M is enough for many uses, and can drive an amp for more.
>>Since I have a 2M amp (TE1452G) rated for 25W input,

My TE Systems 1452G requires 15 watts to get full output.
 
>
>Yes. In the world of "high performance" VHF and UHF, 10 watts out from
>the transverter is pretty much a standard. The RF Concepts "brick" amps
>are excellent, include decent preamps, and sell for moderate prices in
>the used market. There are versions of these amps that will get you 170
>watts with 2W, 10W, or 35W drive. The older Mirage amps (pre-Mississippi)
>are also winners.

RF Concepts amps are no longer manufactured.  I have one for 70cm, but
when it goes I'll probably opt for a TE Systems amp.

>
>>There are a number of amps that can work nicely with the K3 (and are
>>often much cheaper than the projected K800/K1500 price).
>
>Yes. Lots of K3s are driving Ten Tec Titans, Herc IIs, and various models
>of Alphas. All are capable of full QSK using the delay built into the K3.
>I use a pair of K3s and Titan 425s in my shack for SO2R, and a Herc II
>for portable operation. I get full output from mine with 30-50 watts.
>Titans in good shape go for around $1,500 with their power supply, Herc
>IIs for around $800 without a power supply (they run on 13.8V). These are
>vintage amps (early 80s), well designed, transmit a clean signal, are
>well documented, and are fairly easy to work on.
>
>73,
>
>Jim Brown K9YC

[snip]

Tom, N5GE
K3 #806, K3 #1055
XV144, XV432
W1 and other small kits.
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[dave.wilburn]

Yea, I was rollin when I read that.

Prior to the hints, there was rash of LP-Pan sales a month or two ago.

Dave Wilburn
NM4M

Bill W5WVO wrote:

> wayne burdick wrote:
>
>>> and a panadapter....
>> (Doh!) Why didn't I think of that?
>
> There have been a number of back-handed hints over the past day or two that the
> panadaptor IS coming, and in my estimation Real Soon Now. Just a SWAG, no
> insider information, but the clues are there IMO.
>
> Hang tight...
>
> Bill W5WVO
>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
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[Kevin Rock]

Eric did mention other fish frying a while back.  Obviously they were pan fish :)
   Kevin.  KD5ONS


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>To: Elecraft Discussion List <[hidden email]>
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>
>Yea, I was rollin when I read that.
>
>Prior to the hints, there was rash of LP-Pan sales a month or two ago.
>
>Dave Wilburn
>NM4M
>
>Bill W5WVO wrote:
>> wayne burdick wrote:
>>
>>>> and a panadapter....
>>> (Doh!) Why didn't I think of that?
>>
>> There have been a number of back-handed hints over the past day or two that the
>> panadaptor IS coming, and in my estimation Real Soon Now. Just a SWAG, no
>> insider information, but the clues are there IMO.
>>
>> Hang tight...
>>
>> Bill W5WVO
>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>
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[Jack Brindle]

Guys, don't get your hopes up...

On May 14, 2009, at 8:18 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:

> Eric did mention other fish frying a while back.  Obviously they  
> were pan fish :)
>   Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: May 14, 2009 11:06 PM
>> To: Elecraft Discussion List <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sneak Preview: New Elecraft products
>>
>> Yea, I was rollin when I read that.
>>
>> Prior to the hints, there was rash of LP-Pan sales a month or two  
>> ago.
>>
>> Dave Wilburn
>> NM4M
>>
>> Bill W5WVO wrote:
>>> wayne burdick wrote:
>>>
>>>>> and a panadapter....
>>>> (Doh!) Why didn't I think of that?
>>>
>>> There have been a number of back-handed hints over the past day or  
>>> two that the
>>> panadaptor IS coming, and in my estimation Real Soon Now. Just a  
>>> SWAG, no
>>> insider information, but the clues are there IMO.
>>>
>>> Hang tight...
>>>
>>> Bill W5WVO
>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>
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[Jan Holmer SM6TUW]

 Wayne!

Please provide more detailed info regarding pricing and time of delivery for
the K144XV option.
 (for us not making it to your boot in Dayton)
I definitley want to be on the waiting list!

73

Jan SM6TUW
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To Wayne
Yes, i agree with Jan.
All that information we need  asap. HAMRADIO fair is in June and all
suppliers will have special offers.

Michael, DC0ZO

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> Wayne!
>
> Please provide more detailed info regarding pricing and time of delivery
> for
> the K144XV option.
> (for us not making it to your boot in Dayton)
> I definitley want to be on the waiting list!
>
> 73
>
> Jan SM6TUW
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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

We're putting together the web page info and order form today, and will
also post here.
73, Eric   WA6HHQ

_..._



SM6TUW wrote:

>  Wayne!
>
> Please provide more detailed info regarding pricing and time of delivery for
> the K144XV option.
>  (for us not making it to your boot in Dayton)
> I definitley want to be on the waiting list!
>
> 73
> Jan SM6TUW
>
>  

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[Trevor Smithers]

>We're putting together the web page info
Any chance of a page with preliminary thoughts on the panadapter ?

73
Trevor  G0KTN
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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

Our post Dayton work (figuring out our Dayton order forms and building
K3s for Dayton orders etc.) has taken most of our time so far this week.
I'm out tomorrow, but we will get the order info up on Thursday first
thing for the W2 and K144XV.

Delivery for both products is planned for August. I'll post the info we
had up on these from Dayton in my next email.

73,
Eric


Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:

> We're putting together the web page info and order form today, and will
> also post here.
> 73, Eric   WA6HHQ
>
> _..._
>
>
>
> SM6TUW wrote:
>  
>>  Wayne!
>>
>> Please provide more detailed info regarding pricing and time of delivery for
>> the K144XV option.
>>  (for us not making it to your boot in Dayton)
>> I definitley want to be on the waiting list!
>>
>> 73
>> Jan SM6TUW
>>
>>  
>>    
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