Soon To Be KX-3 Owner Question ...

[Andy Cunningham-2]

Guy's...

Can someone shed some light on wether the KX-3 has got audible (to the ear)
CW Sidetone from the internal speaker / Like we are mostly used to with
just about any other radio ?

Just watched the "KX3 Activates Little Si For Summits On The Air - SOTA"
video on Youtube ...way ta go fella's who did that !  But one thing that to
me
"seems" apparent in the video is the LACK of high volume on the internal
speaker for when a person is actually keying the radio themselves... As
apposed to the station coming back to them

Perhaps it was just the outdoors location that seemed to "mute" or make the
audio from the KX3's internal speaker sound a bit "lower in volume "the
sidetone oscillation audio on the video, I don't know..so thought I'd ask
for comments from folks with more experience..

TIA

73's
Andy
GM0NWI [hidden email]


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[wayne burdick]

Hi Andy,

> Can someone shed some light on wether the KX-3 has got audible (to  
> the ear)
> CW Sidetone from the internal speaker / Like we are mostly used to  
> with
> just about any other radio ?

Yes, or you can use headphones or external amplified speakers.

> ...one thing that to me
> "seems" apparent in the video is the LACK of high volume on the  
> internal
> speaker for when a person is actually keying the radio themselves...

You can crank the sidetone up as high as you like, independent of the  
receiver's AF gain. I imagine the operator in the video had it set to  
his liking.

The sidetone can be quite loud from the internal speaker. Of course  
it's a small speaker, not intended for use in mobile or other high-
noise situations. For mobile use, you can patch the audio through your  
car's stereo, and for outdoor use, I highly recommend headphones or  
earbuds.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Phil Hystad-3]

Wayne,

If I remember, the side tone volume is the Monitor volume.  It would be nice to have sidetone and monitor volumes separately controlled -- at least I have wanted to do that.  If this is possible now, I do not know.  Oh, by the way, I am referring to the K3 so I will change the subject accordingly.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
>> Can someone shed some light on wether the KX-3 has got audible (to  
>> the ear)
>> CW Sidetone from the internal speaker / Like we are mostly used to  
>> with
>> just about any other radio ?
>
> Yes, or you can use headphones or external amplified speakers.
>
>> ...one thing that to me
>> "seems" apparent in the video is the LACK of high volume on the  
>> internal
>> speaker for when a person is actually keying the radio themselves...
>
> You can crank the sidetone up as high as you like, independent of the  
> receiver's AF gain. I imagine the operator in the video had it set to  
> his liking.
>
> The sidetone can be quite loud from the internal speaker. Of course  
> it's a small speaker, not intended for use in mobile or other high-
> noise situations. For mobile use, you can patch the audio through your  
> car's stereo, and for outdoor use, I highly recommend headphones or  
> earbuds.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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[wayne burdick]

Phil Hystad wrote:

> If I remember, the side tone volume is the Monitor volume.  It would  
> be nice to have sidetone and monitor volumes separately  
> controlled ....

Sidetone level and voice monitor are independent in both the K3 and KX3.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Jim Brown-10]

On 3/30/2012 12:21 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> I highly recommend headphones or earbuds.

I wouldn't skimp on earbuds.  Some good ones are the musician in-ear
earphones made by Shure and Etymotic Research, both located near
Chicago.  In addition to sounding good, the better models are more
comfortable and do a better job of sealing out external sounds.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Phil Hystad-3]

So, how is it that I missed that?  I am certain I tried to find out how to vary them separately.  Now, it has been long enough that I am even wondering if maybe it was two other tones that I wanted to differentiate.  I need to look into what it was that I was thinking.  I always hate these things that require us to bring "thinking" into the game.  Usually after work, I am done with the thinking stuff.  That is why I like 1950s sci-fi movies so much.

Thanks,
73, phil, K7PEH


On Mar 30, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Phil Hystad wrote:
>
>> If I remember, the side tone volume is the Monitor volume.  It would be nice to have sidetone and monitor volumes separately controlled ....
>
> Sidetone level and voice monitor are independent in both the K3 and KX3.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>

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