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"Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

raroth7
Greetings--

I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few nights
ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the
keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight key.

While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become
"spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  The dits
will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.

When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only tried
this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.

When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to exist,
connected to HRD or not.

Has anyone else discovered this?


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73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

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Re: "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

Len,  K3LJ
Dick, I tried it with my K3 #892 with no problems during TX Test. I am running  the latest Beta version of HRD. I have no problems using HRD to do CW or using the built in keyer in the K3. The mistakes that I make using the keyer are mine but nothing out of the ordinary other than that.

Len, K3LJ


Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote
Greetings--

I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few nights
ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the
keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight key.

While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become
"spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  The dits
will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.

When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only tried
this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.

When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to exist,
connected to HRD or not.

Has anyone else discovered this?


--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

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Re: "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

raroth7
Len, K3LJ wrote:

> Dick, I tried it with my K3 #892 with no problems during TX Test. I am
> running  the latest Beta version of HRD. I have no problems using HRD to do
> CW or using the built in keyer in the K3. The mistakes that I make using the
> keyer are mine but nothing out of the ordinary other than that.
>
> Len, K3LJ
>
>
>
> Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
>> Greetings--
>>
>> I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few nights
>> ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the
>> keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight key.
>>
>> While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become
>> "spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  The dits
>> will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.
>>
>> When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only tried
>> this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.
>>
>> When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to exist,
>> connected to HRD or not.
>>
>> Has anyone else discovered this?
>>
>>>
>[snip] >
>

I'm running HRD 4.1 Build 2312.  I should add that the radio is as it
was when I put it together.  I have not made any mods.  I don't know if
this is pertinent or not.

--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

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Re: "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

wayne burdick
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I'm not observing any keying problems, either. How are you keying the  
rig? How is HRD set up? I'm not an expert with HRD; is there a way to  
reset it to defaults to see if it could be a configuration issue?

Tnx
Wayne,
N6KR

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On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:00 PM, "Dick Roth, KA1OZ" <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

> Len, K3LJ wrote:
>> Dick, I tried it with my K3 #892 with no problems during TX Test. I  
>> am
>> running  the latest Beta version of HRD. I have no problems using  
>> HRD to do
>> CW or using the built in keyer in the K3. The mistakes that I make  
>> using the
>> keyer are mine but nothing out of the ordinary other than that.
>>
>> Len, K3LJ
>>
>>
>>
>> Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
>>> Greetings--
>>>
>>> I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few  
>>> nights
>>> ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the
>>> keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight  
>>> key.
>>>
>>> While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become
>>> "spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  
>>> The dits
>>> will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.
>>>
>>> When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only  
>>> tried
>>> this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.
>>>
>>> When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to  
>>> exist,
>>> connected to HRD or not.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else discovered this?
>>>
>>>>
>> [snip] >
>>
>
> I'm running HRD 4.1 Build 2312.  I should add that the radio is as it
> was when I put it together.  I have not made any mods.  I don't know  
> if
> this is pertinent or not.
>
> --
> 73,
> Dick ka1oz
> Middleborough, MA
>
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> Antenna:  Titan-DX
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Re: "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

raroth7
This is a very plain vanilla setup.  I'm using an iambic paddle plugged
into the paddle input and my straight key into the key input.  Other
than my KUSB connection between my rig and my laptop, which runs Vista,
there is no other connection.  And with the K3 in TX Test, there is no
RF possibly running around the shack.

I also have a plain vanilla setup of HRD...out of the box, you might
say.  I do know that without changing HRD's setup, I can cure the
problem by going back to 3.30.  It would appear that something in 3.41
has done the changing!

Thanks for your input, Wayne, Len and the rest of the crew.


Wayne Burdick wrote:

> I'm not observing any keying problems, either. How are you keying the
> rig? How is HRD set up? I'm not an expert with HRD; is there a way to
> reset it to defaults to see if it could be a configuration issue?
>
> Tnx
> Wayne,
> N6KR
>
> ----
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>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:00 PM, "Dick Roth, KA1OZ" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Len, K3LJ wrote:
>>> Dick, I tried it with my K3 #892 with no problems during TX Test. I am
>>> running  the latest Beta version of HRD. I have no problems using HRD
>>> to do
>>> CW or using the built in keyer in the K3. The mistakes that I make
>>> using the
>>> keyer are mine but nothing out of the ordinary other than that.
>>>
>>> Len, K3LJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
>>>> Greetings--
>>>>
>>>> I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few nights
>>>> ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the
>>>> keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight key.
>>>>
>>>> While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become
>>>> "spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  The
>>>> dits
>>>> will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.
>>>>
>>>> When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only
>>>> tried
>>>> this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.
>>>>
>>>> When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to exist,
>>>> connected to HRD or not.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else discovered this?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>> [snip] >
>>>
>>
>> I'm running HRD 4.1 Build 2312.  I should add that the radio is as it
>> was when I put it together.  I have not made any mods.  I don't know if
>> this is pertinent or not.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Dick ka1oz
>> Middleborough, MA
>>
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>> Antenna:  Titan-DX
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Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

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Re: "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

hb9brj
HRD creates quite some RS232 tfc. You see this when spinning the VFO knob and watching how fast the HRD screen is following. So I guess that RS232 speed could be an issue. K3 default is 4800bps. I'm using 38400bps and do not have any keying problems.

73, Markus HB9BRJ
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Re: "Spasmodic" CW with 3.41

raroth7
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Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Dick,
>
> What version of HRD are you  using?
>
> tnx
> Wayne
>
> On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Dick Roth, KA1OZ wrote:
>
>> This is a very plain vanilla setup.  I'm using an iambic paddle
>> plugged into the paddle input and my straight key into the key input.  
>> Other than my KUSB connection between my rig and my laptop, which runs
>> Vista, there is no other connection.  And with the K3 in TX Test,
>> there is no RF possibly running around the shack.
>>
>> I also have a plain vanilla setup of HRD...out of the box, you might
>> say.  I do know that without changing HRD's setup, I can cure the
>> problem by going back to 3.30.  It would appear that something in 3.41
>> has done the changing!
>>
>> Thanks for your input, Wayne, Len and the rest of the crew.
>>
>>
>> Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> I'm not observing any keying problems, either. How are you keying the
>>> rig? How is HRD set up? I'm not an expert with HRD; is there a way to
>>> reset it to defaults to see if it could be a configuration issue?
>>> Tnx
>>> Wayne,
>>> N6KR
>>> ----
>>> http://www.elecraft.com
>>> On Oct 8, 2009, at 7:00 PM, "Dick Roth, KA1OZ" <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Len, K3LJ wrote:
>>>>> Dick, I tried it with my K3 #892 with no problems during TX Test. I am
>>>>> running  the latest Beta version of HRD. I have no problems using
>>>>> HRD to do
>>>>> CW or using the built in keyer in the K3. The mistakes that I make
>>>>> using the
>>>>> keyer are mine but nothing out of the ordinary other than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Len, K3LJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
>>>>>> Greetings--
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I discovered tonight, having downloaded and installed 3.41 a few
>>>>>> nights
>>>>>> ago, that when connected to HRD, my K3, #859, has problems with the
>>>>>> keying circuit, regardless if I'm using my paddle or my straight key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While in TX Test mode, when connected to HRD, dits and dahs become
>>>>>> "spasmodic" with dahs occasionally elongated or cut off short.  
>>>>>> The dits
>>>>>> will occasionally "miss"...not be there when expected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When disconnected from HRD, normal operation resumes.  Now, I only
>>>>>> tried
>>>>>> this on TX Test and not into the air or dummy load.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I reverted back to 3.30, the problem vanished...ceased to exist,
>>>>>> connected to HRD or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone else discovered this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> [snip] >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm running HRD 4.1 Build 2312.  I should add that the radio is as it
>>>> was when I put it together.  I have not made any mods.  I don't know if
>>>> this is pertinent or not.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 73,
>>>> Dick ka1oz
>>>> Middleborough, MA
>>>>
>>>> Radio:  Elecraft K3/100(Kit) SN 859
>>>> Antenna:  Titan-DX
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>>
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Dick ka1oz
>> Middleborough, MA
>>
>> Radio:  Elecraft K3/100(Kit) SN 859
>> Antenna:  Titan-DX
>
>

4.1 Build 2312

I'm using a KUSB from Elecraft.

I re-installed 3.41 to see whether there had been a problem with the
first time I installed it, but the same symptoms are there.

I can't even send 8 dits (error) without a skipped dit!  It makes it
impossible to send morse.  When I try the straight key, it is hit and
miss whether I transmit or not with each character.

I just re-installed 3.30 and all is FB again!

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73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

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