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Hi DX chasers
In chasing DX have been caught napping a few times, when I forgot to select 'split' and had to be reminded by someone on the DX freq about the blunder. I was wondering if there is a way to more clearly show that 'split' is activated. How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B, also flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind that 'split' is active. Red face Vidi - ZS1EL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:49 AM, vidi wrote: How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B, also flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind that 'split' is active. ___________ There is already an indicator. It's the yellow delta f light below the power button. If it's on, your TX freq is split. You just have to get use to looking for it. 73 - Steve WB6RSE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Also, just above the B frequency display, there is a circled indicator
that says "SPLT". 73, Ted, W2ZK [hidden email] wrote: > On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:49 AM, vidi wrote: > > How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B, also > flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind that 'split' is > active. > ___________ > > There is already an indicator. It's the yellow delta f light below the > power button. If it's on, your TX freq is split. You just have to get > use to looking for it. > > 73 - Steve WB6RSE > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by vidi
Vidi, Don't worry it's happened to a lot of us. I was just suggesting something similar to the group the other day. Either have the numbers change in the main VFO as you Xmit (like most rigs out there do) have the Delta F light blink obnoxiously (hmmm) or perhaps even your idea where the little B is blinking on and off. There's just got to be some other indication that we're not transmitting on the BIG number stairing us right in the face... > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:49:16 +0200 > Subject: [Elecraft] Split reminder > > Hi DX chasers > In chasing DX have been caught napping a few times, when I forgot to select > 'split' and had to be reminded by someone on the DX freq about the blunder. > I was wondering if there is a way to more clearly show that 'split' is > activated. How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B, also > flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind that 'split' is > active. > Red face Vidi - ZS1EL > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Ted Roycraft
... and a yellow LED which will glow if you use split or rit/xit. Why more? 73 de Roland, DC1RS
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Steve, This is true, but what happens when you operate your rig like I do, and you keep your RIT on. The second that you move that knob the Delta F light comes on for the same exact reason.. So am I to understand that I'm in Delta F because I'm still in split, or because I have my RIT on and moved off freq. by even .001 hz?? Something should blink, or change to indicate split vs' RIT. > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:54:16 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder > > > On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:49 AM, vidi wrote: > > How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B, also > flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind that 'split' is > active. > ___________ > > There is already an indicator. It's the yellow delta f light below the > power button. If it's on, your TX freq is split. You just have to get > use to looking for it. > > 73 - Steve WB6RSE > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:34 PM, The Smiths wrote: This is true, but what happens when you operate your rig like I do, and you keep your RIT on. _________ There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and frequency readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just learning how to use any radio. I've been puzzled more than a few times by the K3 only to find the answer with RTFM. The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or perhaps a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be far less disruptive. 73! Steve WB6RSE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'm not sure that this is a case of the manufacture having to "protect" the opertor from him or herself.. but more of a matter of intuitivenes. You've also forgotten the fact that we have the CWT text reading mode, and that your VFO B display could easily be covered up by text from incoming code, or random noise. Which is usually the case in the way I operate my rig. The rig could easily give a notice of different modes. Again, 99.99% of the other rigs out there will change the display of the VFO when it is in transmit mode on a split freq. As we already agreed, the RIT can put this rig into the SAME EXACT indication that it's in Split mode. Actually fooling the user. You and I both know that the display changes when the K3 has the RIT ON, and moved off VFO A's Freq. Changing the display to do the same in split mode , one would then be able to look at the Green RIT led to see if they had the RIT on, OR the little arrow pointing to the B VFO if you had the SPLIT mode on. There could be no other confusion as to why the display keep changing. The display changing is more common sense to those using the rig. I'm actually more curious if this is simply a way that Wayne has decided to try and differentiate his radio from the others out there.. at the disadvantage of the users that forget what mode they are in... Again, simply blinking the Delta F light (yellow LED) instead of having it on solid, as obnoxious as it is, would be better than nothing when in split mode. > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:06:08 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder > > > On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:34 PM, The Smiths wrote: > > This is true, but what happens when you operate your rig like I do, > and you keep your RIT on. > _________ > > There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator > from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT > indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and frequency > readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with > the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just > learning how to use any radio. I've been puzzled more than a few times > by the K3 only to find the answer with RTFM. > > The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the > cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or perhaps > a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be far less > disruptive. > > 73! Steve WB6RSE > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by wb6rse1
> There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator
> from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT > indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and > frequency > readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with > the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just > learning how to use any radio. True, and it seems I'm still learning! I like the arrangement on the TS850 and similar radios which have a set of TX and RX buttons for VFO A and VFO B, with LED indicators for the active VFO. Visually, it's easy to select the split. The K3's smaller display and control panel make this harder, but not impossible. I'm just retraining my eyes to spot the new clues. Maybe turning up the LED brightness will help (Menu -> LED BRT) but I support the idea of making the delta-F LED flash in true split mode (not just with RIT/XIT). I usually get it wrong having excitedly QSYd to a spot frequency on DXcluster: the rig defaults to no-split, naturally. I normally remember to tweak VFO B up 1 (or whatever) and set the sub-RX to listen there, but sometimes I neglect to hit-and-hold the split button as well. That's quite a lot of buttons to press in a hurry. So FWIW I also vote for an "instant split" function, i.e. if I hold the split button, I'd like VFO B to shift up/down by a configurable and ideally mode- and maybe even band-dependent offset from VFO A and also turn on the sub RX [if fitted] on VFO B. [Yes, this would of course be an optional, configurable, take-it-or-leave-it change to suit those of you who don't like *my* defaults!] In the absense of a firmware fix for this, maybe someone can figure out a way to make the logging program send the relevant commands to the K3 from one button press, or just whenever I click a cluster spot (since most spottees are operating split)? > The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the > cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or > perhaps > a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be > far less > disruptive. Absolutely. See http://www.k6sgh.com/splitpolice.htm :-) 4U1UN on 30m was wiped out by an EA caller this morning, who I think was calling another lower station on split. The cops who sent "UP UP UP UP IDIOT" etc., several times each, made a simple problem worse since the EA was evidently not listening on his TX freq (another good reason for the instant-split function to also set the sub-RX on VFO B). 73 Gary ZL2iFB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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You guys are beating a dead horse again!!!!
Every radio has it's differences!! Some you like, some you don't. If they were all the same we'd be talk about how all our "Wa-cha-ma-call-its" Radio looks and does evwerything the same!! If you like the way, your brand X(Not wanting to pick on anyone's little baby) works, then go buy one and get on their nice quite reflectors!!!! I'll give you 10 cents on the dollar for your K(n) and accessories!! Elecraft - KEEP IT COMING!!! de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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With all due respect, it's not the SAME EXACT indication.
When RIT is on and you're not in split mode: 1). The RIT indicator on the LCD is on. The SPLT indicator is off. 2). The TX arrow on the LCD is pointing to A 3). One of the LEDs above the RIT knob is lit. 4). The delta-F LED on the left hand side is lit. When in split mode and with RIT off: 1). The SPLT indicator on the LCD is on. The RIT indicator is off. 2). The TX arrow on the LCD is pointing to B 3). All the LEDs above the RIT knob are dark 4). The delta-F LED on the left hand side is lit. 1 out of 4 indications is the same. The other 3 are different. Plus, what would you have the delta-F LED do if you have RIT on while in SPLIT mode? 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:38 PM, The Smiths wrote: > As we already agreed, the RIT can put this rig into the SAME EXACT > indication that it's in Split mode. Actually fooling the user. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:38 PM, The Smiths <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Again, simply blinking the Delta F light (yellow LED) instead of having it > on solid, as obnoxious as it is, would be better than nothing when in split > mode. > I catch myself wondering if some posters have actually used the radio. I need to work on my cynical streak. There is a specific [SPLT] icon when rig is operating split mode: RX on A and TX on B. This is accompanied by a "TX" above an arrow pointing down to [B] . [SPLT] TX > [B] does not go away while using RIT or XIT. The TX delta F light indicates that if you key you will not be transmitting on the VFO A frequency because of split mode or XIT. Will changing the steady light to blinking really fix anything? It's the no-light situation that needs to call attention to itself. Normal, even a blinking normal, will get tuned out by the mind. I find split operation with the KRX3 to be delightful, using a pair of speakers and being able to listen to both the DX and the pile simultaneously. Even without the KRX3, holding down REV and tuning the knob with thumb to find TX frequency and release to transmit split, works very well. However, there is no remedy for my showing up on a frequency stupid and/or careless, no matter how I wish Aptos could have built in an idiot operator auto-disable mode to save me embarassment. Alas, I have done my share of TX on the DX frequency, with noone but myself to blame. Radio has no way of knowing that I should be transmitting split. While the K3 scheme is fairly unlike my MP, I found that once the functions are learned and put together for different situations, that the K3 combinations are very powerful and quick. It's always me that's the problem, not the radio. 73, Guy. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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G'day,
A few weeks ago someone posted a link to tranceiver project that had R&S connections. Unfortunately I didn't save it. I would be grateful if you could send me the link. regards, Mike VP8NO ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Guy, K2AV
Hi,
I cmpletely agree with K2AV's observations. There is really nothing to be fixed here. With all the indications of split mode already there, another blinking LED is not going to make any difference. There is really no excuse for transmitting on the wrong VFO with the K3. Yes, it happens in the heat of the battle - we've all done it - but it's just not the K3's fault. AB2TC - Knut
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In reply to this post by Joe Planisky
Okay fair enough, don't have it blink... Have the display change freq. like most other rigs out there.. that's what I was after in the first place.. LOL.. Or I guess you could at least blink the little B (or the arrow) indicating that you're in a split mode. I'm just after something to Draw the attention to the user so they know they're still in that mode. > CC: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:21:23 -0700 > > With all due respect, it's not the SAME EXACT indication. > > When RIT is on and you're not in split mode: > 1). The RIT indicator on the LCD is on. The SPLT indicator is off. > 2). The TX arrow on the LCD is pointing to A > 3). One of the LEDs above the RIT knob is lit. > 4). The delta-F LED on the left hand side is lit. > > When in split mode and with RIT off: > 1). The SPLT indicator on the LCD is on. The RIT indicator is off. > 2). The TX arrow on the LCD is pointing to B > 3). All the LEDs above the RIT knob are dark > 4). The delta-F LED on the left hand side is lit. > > 1 out of 4 indications is the same. The other 3 are different. > > Plus, what would you have the delta-F LED do if you have RIT on while > in SPLIT mode? > > 73 > -- > Joe KB8AP > > > On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:38 PM, The Smiths wrote: > > > As we already agreed, the RIT can put this rig into the SAME EXACT > > indication that it's in Split mode. Actually fooling the user. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:49:16 +0200, "vidi" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>Hi DX chasers >In chasing DX have been caught napping a few times, when I forgot to select >'split' and had to be reminded by someone on the DX freq about the blunder. >I was wondering if there is a way to more clearly show that 'split' is >activated. How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B, also >flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind that 'split' is >active. >Red face Vidi - ZS1EL > [snip] Can you not see the encircled [SPLT] just to the left of the TX with the pointer pointing at the B VFO indicating that it is the Transmit VFO, the inverse of which is, You ain't in split mode? 73, Tom, N5GE [hidden email] K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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In reply to this post by Gary Hinson
Dear Elecraft and all gentlemen
Rigth it is one's own fault not seing the yellow delta ligth, but but but I would sure wake up if the two frequencies in the display changed place when transmitting on the VFO B (oh yes then the designation A and B would be wrong). But anyway I would be protected from my self. A less drastic solution would be to have a transmit frequency blinking slowly regardless of being VFO A or VFO B. Vy 73 OZ1CCM Kjeld -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Hinson Sent: 19. oktober 2009 22:40 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split reminder > There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator > from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT > indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and frequency > readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with > the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just > learning how to use any radio. True, and it seems I'm still learning! I like the arrangement on the TS850 and similar radios which have a set of TX and RX buttons for VFO A and VFO B, with LED indicators for the active VFO. Visually, it's easy to select the split. The K3's smaller display and control panel make this harder, but not impossible. I'm just retraining my eyes to spot the new clues. Maybe turning up the LED brightness will help (Menu -> LED BRT) but I support the idea of making the delta-F LED flash in true split mode (not just with RIT/XIT). I usually get it wrong having excitedly QSYd to a spot frequency on DXcluster: the rig defaults to no-split, naturally. I normally remember to tweak VFO B up 1 (or whatever) and set the sub-RX to listen there, but sometimes I neglect to hit-and-hold the split button as well. That's quite a lot of buttons to press in a hurry. So FWIW I also vote for an "instant split" function, i.e. if I hold the split button, I'd like VFO B to shift up/down by a configurable and ideally mode- and maybe even band-dependent offset from VFO A and also turn on the sub RX [if fitted] on VFO B. [Yes, this would of course be an optional, configurable, take-it-or-leave-it change to suit those of you who don't like *my* defaults!] In the absense of a firmware fix for this, maybe someone can figure out a way to make the logging program send the relevant commands to the K3 from one button press, or just whenever I click a cluster spot (since most spottees are operating split)? > The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the > cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or perhaps > a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be far less > disruptive. Absolutely. See http://www.k6sgh.com/splitpolice.htm :-) 4U1UN on 30m was wiped out by an EA caller this morning, who I think was calling another lower station on split. The cops who sent "UP UP UP UP IDIOT" etc., several times each, made a simple problem worse since the EA was evidently not listening on his TX freq (another good reason for the instant-split function to also set the sub-RX on VFO B). 73 Gary ZL2iFB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Guy, K2AV
Totally agree with Guy.
It sometimes seems like those new to Elecraft and the K3 want to change the rig to act just like the rig they have or had before getting the K3. I love all the "menu suggestions" from the new owners. Never mind most of these suggestions have been hashed to death on the reflector and either implemented or rejected by Elecraft long before the "suggester" bought the radio. The split operation discussion is a perfect example. If the K3's feature set and UI don't measure up to your expectations sell the radio. Elecraft do listen to users suggestions but we have to remember this isn't a democracy, they make the decisions. If they decide NOT to implement your "best thing since sliced bread" suggestion don't bring it back to the reflector and have some kind of quasi vote on the subject. Seems to me more and more of these suggestions are an attempt to make the rig do everything taking the human out of the loop. Is it possible to TX on the DX frequency when operating split? Absolutely! If you do you deserve the raspberries you get because you weren't prepared. The middle of a rare DX pileup or contest is a TERRIBLE place to learn how to operate the rig. Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > I catch myself wondering if some posters have actually used the radio. I > need to work on my cynical streak. > > There is a specific [SPLT] icon when rig is operating split mode: RX on A > and TX on B. This is accompanied by a "TX" above an arrow pointing down to > [B] . [SPLT] TX > [B] does not go away while using RIT or XIT. The TX > delta F light indicates that if you key you will not be transmitting on the > VFO A frequency because of split mode or XIT. > > Will changing the steady light to blinking really fix anything? It's the > no-light situation that needs to call attention to itself. Normal, even a > blinking normal, will get tuned out by the mind. > > I find split operation with the KRX3 to be delightful, using a pair of > speakers and being able to listen to both the DX and the pile > simultaneously. Even without the KRX3, holding down REV and tuning the knob > with thumb to find TX frequency and release to transmit split, works very > well. > > However, there is no remedy for my showing up on a frequency stupid and/or > careless, no matter how I wish Aptos could have built in an idiot operator > auto-disable mode to save me embarassment. Alas, I have done my share of TX > on the DX frequency, with noone but myself to blame. Radio has no way of > knowing that I should be transmitting split. > > While the K3 scheme is fairly unlike my MP, I found that once the functions > are learned and put together for different situations, that the K3 > combinations are very powerful and quick. > > It's always me that's the problem, not the radio. > > 73, Guy. > ______________________________________________________________ > -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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This has to be one of the silliest threads EVER! I think the indications that you are working split are clear enough, but if you go back and read the original post that started it, the OP complained that he had FORGOTTEN to engage split several times and suggested that a clearer indication of split activation would help avoid the error.
What the OP actually wants is a reminder that split is NOT activated when it should have been. This can clearly only be achieved by making the K3 clairvoyant so that it knows how the station you have just tuned to is operating. If a user forgets to check that split is enabled when it is needed then I don't think even a fanfare of trumpets when it IS enabled will help. The only solution is to "engage brain before operating radio."
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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What about a menu item that will activate split automatically when the DX says "up" and will bring the operator a beer or a coffe when the DX says "QRX 5"?
 Sorry couldn't resist, don't beat me up  73 de Roland, DC1RS
K3/100 #1243, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-2.1K, KFL3A-400, KRX3, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400, KAT3, KXV3A, LP-Pan
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