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Edward R Cole
Hmm, another survey?

I have had up to four computers in the shack, but run two
(mainly).  I Dell duo-core P4 2.33G with 2GB memory XP32 which is
always connected to the K3 serial port and does all the digital mode
work.  I Dell Inspiron with win8.1 always connected to the SDR-IQ but
gets very irregular use.  I have an old P90 win95 IBM thinkpad for
running an old packet program or a CW key program (but not getting
much use these days - Keep for any legacy DOS sw).

At some point we will disconnect the duo-core P4 from the internet
and e-mail will go to the win8.1 machine (Hopefully win10 will be
with us by then).  I will have to get fm downloads from the laptop at
that point.

Or maybe by then we will replace the laptop (2009 purchase).  My wife
bought a new Dell with win7 this past year and is chomping for a new
desktop (her's is same genre as my desktop which she never uses).  I
told her to wait till win10 is available.  She also has a ipad-3
which is in constant use.  I have no idea why she needs a desktop.

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
     "Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Phil Wheeler-2
Five in total (Two Macs, three PCs). The Macs both
will boot OS X, Win 7 or Ubuntu Linux -- one will
even boot two versions of OS X at any time, one
working and one beta.

One Mac in the house (MacBook Air) and one PC
(long-in-the-tooth, circa 2008, Dell running Win
7). One Mac in the shack (MacBook Pro), one tiny
10.1" HP notebook running Win 8.1 (used mostly for
PSK31 and such) and one newer Dell PC in the shack
running Win 7.

The two desktop Dell PCs are prized for their fast
optical drives (Blu-Ray in one) so I can rip and
burn optical disks; the two Macs have only slow
usb optical drives.

Even with three computers in the shack I seem to
still be "old school" ala Don Wilhelm :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 3/11/15 11:12 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:

> Hmm, another survey?
>
> I have had up to four computers in the shack,
> but run two (mainly).  I Dell duo-core P4 2.33G
> with 2GB memory XP32 which is always connected
> to the K3 serial port and does all the digital
> mode work.  I Dell Inspiron with win8.1 always
> connected to the SDR-IQ but gets very irregular
> use.  I have an old P90 win95 IBM thinkpad for
> running an old packet program or a CW key
> program (but not getting much use these days -
> Keep for any legacy DOS sw).
>
> At some point we will disconnect the duo-core P4
> from the internet and e-mail will go to the
> win8.1 machine (Hopefully win10 will be with us
> by then).  I will have to get fm downloads from
> the laptop at that point.
>
> Or maybe by then we will replace the laptop
> (2009 purchase).  My wife bought a new Dell with
> win7 this past year and is chomping for a new
> desktop (her's is same genre as my desktop which
> she never uses).  I told her to wait till win10
> is available.  She also has a ipad-3 which is in
> constant use.  I have no idea why she needs a
> desktop.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>     "Kits made by KL7UW"
> Dubus Mag business:
>     [hidden email]

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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Phil Hystad-3
In the shack right now, not counting any processor that is in the Elecraft rigs:

1.  Macbook Pro laptop 17 inch screen duo core, 8 GB Ram.

2.  iMac 24, quad core, 16 GB Ram.

3.  Sony Vaio laptop, Linux, in the closet, has not been on in more than six months.

4.  One Raspberry Pi model B.

5.  One Arduino Uno

6.  One PIC Microprocessor

7.  One iPad, 3rd generation.

8.  One iPhone 4s (yes, time for an upgrade to iPhone 6).

9.  One HP-42S Scientific Programmable Calculator.

10.  One HP-35x Scientific Programmable Calculator.

11.  One TI-30X IIS Scientific/Engineering Calculator.

12.  One HP 16-C Computer Programmer's Calculator.

In other rooms of the house...

13.  Apple TV (running iOS 8).

14.  iMac 27 quad core (XYL's computer)

15.  XYL's iPad 4th generation

16.  XYL's iPhone 4s (yes, upgrade needed).

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Five in total (Two Macs, three PCs). The Macs both will boot OS X, Win 7 or Ubuntu Linux -- one will even boot two versions of OS X at any time, one working and one beta.
>
> One Mac in the house (MacBook Air) and one PC (long-in-the-tooth, circa 2008, Dell running Win 7). One Mac in the shack (MacBook Pro), one tiny 10.1" HP notebook running Win 8.1 (used mostly for PSK31 and such) and one newer Dell PC in the shack running Win 7.
>
> The two desktop Dell PCs are prized for their fast optical drives (Blu-Ray in one) so I can rip and burn optical disks; the two Macs have only slow usb optical drives.
>
> Even with three computers in the shack I seem to still be "old school" ala Don Wilhelm :-)
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 3/11/15 11:12 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>> Hmm, another survey?
>>
>> I have had up to four computers in the shack, but run two (mainly).  I Dell duo-core P4 2.33G with 2GB memory XP32 which is always connected to the K3 serial port and does all the digital mode work.  I Dell Inspiron with win8.1 always connected to the SDR-IQ but gets very irregular use.  I have an old P90 win95 IBM thinkpad for running an old packet program or a CW key program (but not getting much use these days - Keep for any legacy DOS sw).
>>
>> At some point we will disconnect the duo-core P4 from the internet and e-mail will go to the win8.1 machine (Hopefully win10 will be with us by then).  I will have to get fm downloads from the laptop at that point.
>>
>> Or maybe by then we will replace the laptop (2009 purchase).  My wife bought a new Dell with win7 this past year and is chomping for a new desktop (her's is same genre as my desktop which she never uses).  I told her to wait till win10 is available.  She also has a ipad-3 which is in constant use.  I have no idea why she needs a desktop.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> http://www.kl7uw.com
>>    "Kits made by KL7UW"
>> Dubus Mag business:
>>    [hidden email]
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

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  I told her to wait till win10 is available.  She also has a ipad-3
which is in constant use.  I have no idea why she needs a desktop.

Because she said so!

de ns9i married for 110 years!


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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Robin Moseley
latest machine is a  Lenovo TS-140 server, really cheap at £220 after
cashback.
Added a SSD drive to boot from  Â£100
Better sound card for data modes - Creative SB -Z  Â£40 (ebay)
extra ram (20GB  - 2*8 and 1*4GB  Â£140 Ebay)
Dual band wifi card (£30 Amazon)
Running win 7 Pro x64
27" monitor - thinking of adding another one..

So that's now a beast quad core Xeon 3G, 24GB ram, 240GB SSD +500GB data for
not a lot of ££

I remote that PC with teamviewer, IP sound, Skype, RDP from my ex-corporate
laptop.. I use input director when in the shack so can control the server
from the laptop
HP Elitebook 8540W, 32GB ram, Quad core i7 (old but fast), 250GB SSD + 1TB
spindle..   Win 7 Pro x64

Robin G1MHU

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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

WA2SI
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Pity this thread will be shut down, it has the makings of such an
interesting topic and since most of us interface our PC's to Elecraft rigs,
it's quite relevant.

Here goes nothing.

Lenovo ThinkPad W520, i7-2820QM CPU, 16GB 1600MHz Kingston HyperX RAM, and a
Samsung 830 256GB SSD running Win 7 Pro. (Goin' on 4 years and rock
solid/extremely stable) I use N3FJP to connect to my K2/100 w/SignaLink USB
and N4PY Pegasus Plus to connect to my Ten-Tec Jupiter My MasterKeyer MK-1
is also connected to the K2/100 and is controlled vis PuTTY. Hardly any RF
noise. (Liberal use of ferrite chokes throughout the shack.)

Take care es...

Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI


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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Joshua Gould, K8WXA
As my shack and office share the same space, I have:

13" retina MacBook Pro used for everything...
21" iMac that acts as a file server
11" MacBook Air that just sits there
Old power spec pc that I need to (re)install windows on
Some old server that I bought many years ago...

The 13" rMBP is attached to the KX3 for rig control and logging. Would like to try digital modes, but need to get my 20/40 Endfed up first. The G5RV acts like its damaged...

72,
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
EM89pn

KX3# 7480
NAQCC # 7704

This message was sent from an iPhone. Please excuse any typos and the brevity of responses.
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

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Too Many....  I also do this for a Job.





 
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Grant Youngman
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I’m a luddite.  I have two Windows machines (mostly turned OFF), a MacBook, two MacBook Pros, and a Mac Pro.

None of them are in the radio room, although I do take a MacBook Pro in there once in a while for digital stuff.   Too many RADIOS.  No room for permanent computer thingies.

Grant NQ5T
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Phil Hystad-3
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Harry,  I too did it for a job -- professional programmer from 1967 to 2013 until I retired.

But, I agree, you can have too many computers.  Ninety percent of my computer activity is
on my Macbook Pro.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Mar 11, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Too Many....  I also do this for a Job.
>
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Harlan Sherriff
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Phil
Don't forget the microwave oven


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> </div><div>Date:03/11/2015  4:47 PM  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> </div><div>Cc: [hidden email] </div><div>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Subject:  Computers In The Shack </div><div>
</div>In the shack right now, not counting any processor that is in the Elecraft rigs:

1.  Macbook Pro laptop 17 inch screen duo core, 8 GB Ram.

2.  iMac 24, quad core, 16 GB Ram.

3.  Sony Vaio laptop, Linux, in the closet, has not been on in more than six months.

4.  One Raspberry Pi model B.

5.  One Arduino Uno

6.  One PIC Microprocessor

7.  One iPad, 3rd generation.

8.  One iPhone 4s (yes, time for an upgrade to iPhone 6).

9.  One HP-42S Scientific Programmable Calculator.

10.  One HP-35x Scientific Programmable Calculator.

11.  One TI-30X IIS Scientific/Engineering Calculator.

12.  One HP 16-C Computer Programmer's Calculator.

In other rooms of the house...

13.  Apple TV (running iOS 8).

14.  iMac 27 quad core (XYL's computer)

15.  XYL's iPad 4th generation

16.  XYL's iPhone 4s (yes, upgrade needed).

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Five in total (Two Macs, three PCs). The Macs both will boot OS X, Win 7 or Ubuntu Linux -- one will even boot two versions of OS X at any time, one working and one beta.
>
> One Mac in the house (MacBook Air) and one PC (long-in-the-tooth, circa 2008, Dell running Win 7). One Mac in the shack (MacBook Pro), one tiny 10.1" HP notebook running Win 8.1 (used mostly for PSK31 and such) and one newer Dell PC in the shack running Win 7.
>
> The two desktop Dell PCs are prized for their fast optical drives (Blu-Ray in one) so I can rip and burn optical disks; the two Macs have only slow usb optical drives.
>
> Even with three computers in the shack I seem to still be "old school" ala Don Wilhelm :-)
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 3/11/15 11:12 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>> Hmm, another survey?
>>
>> I have had up to four computers in the shack, but run two (mainly).  I Dell duo-core P4 2.33G with 2GB memory XP32 which is always connected to the K3 serial port and does all the digital mode work.  I Dell Inspiron with win8.1 always connected to the SDR-IQ but gets very irregular use.  I have an old P90 win95 IBM thinkpad for running an old packet program or a CW key program (but not getting much use these days - Keep for any legacy DOS sw).
>>
>> At some point we will disconnect the duo-core P4 from the internet and e-mail will go to the win8.1 machine (Hopefully win10 will be with us by then).  I will have to get fm downloads from the laptop at that point.
>>
>> Or maybe by then we will replace the laptop (2009 purchase).  My wife bought a new Dell with win7 this past year and is chomping for a new desktop (her's is same genre as my desktop which she never uses).  I told her to wait till win10 is available.  She also has a ipad-3 which is in constant use.  I have no idea why she needs a desktop.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>> http://www.kl7uw.com
>>    "Kits made by KL7UW"
>> Dubus Mag business:
>>    [hidden email]
>
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Phil Wheeler-2
Drat!  I forgot that one, and my calculators, four
iOS devices and two Android tablets (the latest to
interface with the KX3, so it should have been
included!)

Phil

On 3/11/15 3:57 PM, hsherriff wrote:

> Phil
> Don't forget the microwave oven
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Phil Hystad <[hidden email]>
> Date:03/11/2015 4:47 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]>
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Computers In
> The Shack
>
> In the shack right now, not counting any
> processor that is in the Elecraft rigs:
>
> 1.  Macbook Pro laptop 17 inch screen duo core,
> 8 GB Ram.
>
> 2.  iMac 24, quad core, 16 GB Ram.
>
> 3.  Sony Vaio laptop, Linux, in the closet, has
> not been on in more than six months.
>
> 4.  One Raspberry Pi model B.
>
> 5.  One Arduino Uno
>
> 6.  One PIC Microprocessor
>
> 7.  One iPad, 3rd generation.
>
> 8.  One iPhone 4s (yes, time for an upgrade to
> iPhone 6).
>
> 9.  One HP-42S Scientific Programmable Calculator.
>
> 10.  One HP-35x Scientific Programmable Calculator.
>
> 11.  One TI-30X IIS Scientific/Engineering
> Calculator.
>
> 12.  One HP 16-C Computer Programmer's Calculator.
>
> In other rooms of the house...
>
> 13.  Apple TV (running iOS 8).
>
> 14.  iMac 27 quad core (XYL's computer)
>
> 15.  XYL's iPad 4th generation
>
> 16.  XYL's iPhone 4s (yes, upgrade needed).
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
> > On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Phil Wheeler
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Five in total (Two Macs, three PCs). The Macs
> both will boot OS X, Win 7 or Ubuntu Linux --
> one will even boot two versions of OS X at any
> time, one working and one beta.
> >
> > One Mac in the house (MacBook Air) and one PC
> (long-in-the-tooth, circa 2008, Dell running Win
> 7). One Mac in the shack (MacBook Pro), one tiny
> 10.1" HP notebook running Win 8.1 (used mostly
> for PSK31 and such) and one newer Dell PC in the
> shack running Win 7.
> >
> > The two desktop Dell PCs are prized for their
> fast optical drives (Blu-Ray in one) so I can
> rip and burn optical disks; the two Macs have
> only slow usb optical drives.
> >
> > Even with three computers in the shack I seem
> to still be "old school" ala Don Wilhelm :-)
> >
> > 73, Phil W7OX
> >
> > On 3/11/15 11:12 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> >> Hmm, another survey?
> >>
> >> I have had up to four computers in the shack,
> but run two (mainly).  I Dell duo-core P4 2.33G
> with 2GB memory XP32 which is always connected
> to the K3 serial port and does all the digital
> mode work.  I Dell Inspiron with win8.1 always
> connected to the SDR-IQ but gets very irregular
> use.  I have an old P90 win95 IBM thinkpad for
> running an old packet program or a CW key
> program (but not getting much use these days -
> Keep for any legacy DOS sw).
> >>
> >> At some point we will disconnect the duo-core
> P4 from the internet and e-mail will go to the
> win8.1 machine (Hopefully win10 will be with us
> by then).  I will have to get fm downloads from
> the laptop at that point.
> >>
> >> Or maybe by then we will replace the laptop
> (2009 purchase).  My wife bought a new Dell with
> win7 this past year and is chomping for a new
> desktop (her's is same genre as my desktop which
> she never uses).  I told her to wait till win10
> is available.  She also has a ipad-3 which is in
> constant use.  I have no idea why she needs a
> desktop.
> >>
> >> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> >> http://www.kl7uw.com
> >>    "Kits made by KL7UW"
> >> Dubus Mag business:
> >>    [hidden email]
> >
> >
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

Kevin Stover
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Me too.

Three home brew desktops, the slowest of which has four cores and 8G of
Ram, all running Win7.
A Dell laptop from hell running Win98 that is stand alone and gets used
with spectrogram.
A pair of HP blades, 8 cores, 32G memory running Linux. One is a file
server the other is my firewall.
Cisco router and switch and an Internec WAP which gets connected to by a
small pile of wireless crap.

On 3/11/2015 5:17 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> Too Many....  I also do this for a Job.

--
R. Kevin Stover
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ARRL
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

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Just one running for now  3.6ghz  quad core 8gb.   yea I do a little
light gaming too.   I have six club computers stored for field day and
other contests.  the week before field day it looks like mission
control  down here as I set up and test all six (five plus one backup)
connected to available club radios with N1MM and network running.

soon to add one for linking a repeater.  probably an old dell running
linux.

David Moes
VE3DVY,  VE3SD

On 3/11/2015 14:12, Edward R Cole wrote:

> Hmm, another survey?
>
> I have had up to four computers in the shack, but run two (mainly).  I
> Dell duo-core P4 2.33G with 2GB memory XP32 which is always connected
> to the K3 serial port and does all the digital mode work.  I Dell
> Inspiron with win8.1 always connected to the SDR-IQ but gets very
> irregular use.  I have an old P90 win95 IBM thinkpad for running an
> old packet program or a CW key program (but not getting much use these
> days - Keep for any legacy DOS sw).
>
> At some point we will disconnect the duo-core P4 from the internet and
> e-mail will go to the win8.1 machine (Hopefully win10 will be with us
> by then).  I will have to get fm downloads from the laptop at that point.
>
> Or maybe by then we will replace the laptop (2009 purchase).  My wife
> bought a new Dell with win7 this past year and is chomping for a new
> desktop (her's is same genre as my desktop which she never uses).  I
> told her to wait till win10 is available.  She also has a ipad-3 which
> is in constant use.  I have no idea why she needs a desktop.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>     "Kits made by KL7UW"
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

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Let's close this thread at this time. We've exceed the max number of single
topic posts in a short period. I would have closed it earlier, but I actually
had to do some productive work here at Elecraft HQ this afternoon..

It is also just a renamed version of the prior thread I closed earlier this
week. In general if the original topic was closed, simply renaming it is not
fooling anyone and is not a great way to win friendship with the moderator ;-)

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On 3/11/2015 6:26 PM, david Moes wrote:
> Just one running for now  3.6ghz  quad core 8gb.   yea I do a little light
> gaming too.   I have six club computers stored for field day and other
> contests.  the week before field day it looks like mission control  down here
> as I set up and test all six (five plus one backup) connected to available
> club radios with N1MM and network running.

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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack [THREAD CLOSED]

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And just in case my prior message, just sent a minute ago, is missed, this is a
copy with the 'thread closure' in the subject line.

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On 3/11/2015 6:31 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> Let's close this thread at this time. We've exceed the max number of single
> topic posts in a short period. I would have closed it earlier, but I actually
> had to do some productive work here at Elecraft HQ this afternoon..
>
> It is also just a renamed version of the prior thread I closed earlier this
> week. In general if the original topic was closed, simply renaming it is not
> fooling anyone and is not a great way to win friendship with the moderator ;-)
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
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Re: Subject: Computers In The Shack

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I didn't think to include my calculator: TI-35plus (so old many keys
are rubbed bare of labels - good that I remember what they are).  Can
I add my Post slide-rule to the list ;-)

My log is computerized (its a spreadsheet I manually make entries to
- ha!).  I have no room to have a logging program running when I do
eme - paper and pencil are simple - so is the eraser!

Regarding my wife:  Her (old duo-core P4 got so slow, I offered to
rebuild it for her).  But she went and bought a new i7 laptop before
I got it rebuilt and that is what she uses.  The rebuilt desktop is
left turned off.  She probably does 70-80% of her time using the
ipad-3 (face-time and e-mail, oh and puzzles).  Like I said what
would she use a new desktop, for?  If she gets a new desktop, I will
seize the old desktop for doing something (dedicated
auto-tracker?  making coffee?).

She has a Kindle-Fire (I got the old original Kindle - which is used
more than she uses the fire).

I just went thru FL-digi changing several macros for specific eme
scripts.  I am going to use it for keyboard CW when doing CW-eme (I
verified I could copy CW audibly when the K3 is in DATA-A mode -
required by FL-digi).

The dusty shelf hold my Pac-Bell P100 40MB win95 and an old Dell
desktop (upgraded to 512MB and XP32).  Both probably headed to
recycle.  I'll keep the old IBM thinkpad P90 since it has a working
FD drive and add-on DVD.  The thinkpads do not radiate any EMI/RFI.

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
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