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Suggestions for Introducing a 10-year-old to Amateur Radio and Electronics

Edward A. Dauer

Many thanks to the many people who offered suggestions and advice on this subject, all of it worth pursuing.  If it works out, there may come from it another participant in the Elecraft reflector some day.

Thanks again,

Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: Suggestions for Introducing a 10-year-old to Amateur Radio and Electronics

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Here is one more approach:

I took a pine 1X2 and cut it into 3” pieces ; then screwed a couple of Fahnstock clips into the
tops of each one near the ends. I then selected an assortment of 2 node components plus a
pile of 6” cut copper wire pieces.
Whoopee…we could then make stuff…doorbell plus switch, simple diode rcvr, then one with a
single transistor audio amp plus speaker (needs 3 NODE block), morse code key and buzzer
etc etc
Tiny stuff can be intimidating…so the blocks fit his way of playing and we were off and running.
A regen rcvr on a board for 40M can be a jump step and its all fun.

Alan/K6ADG
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Re: Suggestions for Introducing a 10-year-old to Amateur Radio and Electronics

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I started with a flyer from Summer school that showed how to make a crystal set.  Simple stuff, took a week or so to gather the materials and wire it all up with a wood burning converted soldering iron, hi.  We did it on a bread board that Mom said was too marked up.  Used a telephone hand held receiver, a cold water ground and a wire somewhere in the trees, and WE HAD AUDIO.  We could hear the AM stations quite well.  Then came the Regen receiver out of 1940's Popular Mechanic article.  We had CW.......... Thats all it took for this ten year old in 1948.........I was hooked......
Mel, K6KBE

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Here is one more approach:

I took a pine 1X2 and cut it into 3” pieces ; then screwed a couple of Fahnstock clips into the
tops of each one near the ends. I then selected an assortment of 2 node components plus a
pile of 6” cut copper wire pieces.
Whoopee…we could then make stuff…doorbell plus switch, simple diode rcvr, then one with a
single transistor audio amp plus speaker (needs 3 NODE block), morse code key and buzzer
etc etc
Tiny stuff can be intimidating…so the blocks fit his way of playing and we were off and running.
A regen rcvr on a board for 40M can be a jump step and its all fun.

Alan/K6ADG
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Re: Suggestions for Introducing a 10-year-old to Amateur Radio and Electronics

Don Wilhelm
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Excellent idea Alan!

An added advantage of that kind of approach is that you can write on the
blocks - like the name of the component, its schematic symbol, and he
can see how to follow the schematic to connect them.  Polarized devices
like diodes can be marked with the anode and cathode ends and
transistors can be marked with base, collector and emitter and the
difference between an NPN and a PNP can be clearly indicated.
Should make learning much easier for him and he will likely retain it
better.

Steps after that would be teaching the resistor color code and learning
how to read the values on capacitors - capacitor values are not trivial
these days.

Then an introduction to data sheets.  By the time he is a couple years
older he will know more about circuits than many modern hams.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/17/2017 4:44 PM, Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote:

> Here is one more approach:
>
> I took a pine 1X2 and cut it into 3” pieces ; then screwed a couple of Fahnstock clips into the
> tops of each one near the ends. I then selected an assortment of 2 node components plus a
> pile of 6” cut copper wire pieces.
> Whoopee…we could then make stuff…doorbell plus switch, simple diode rcvr, then one with a
> single transistor audio amp plus speaker (needs 3 NODE block), morse code key and buzzer
> etc etc
> Tiny stuff can be intimidating…so the blocks fit his way of playing and we were off and running.
> A regen rcvr on a board for 40M can be a jump step and its all fun.
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Re: Suggestions for Introducing a 10-year-old to Amateur Radio and Electronics

Don Wilhelm
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After a period of experimenting with basic circuits, a good step is to
find an older copy of the ARRL Handbook.  I studied the "Electrical Laws
and Circuits" section of the handbook until I had a good understanding
of what the components did.

That is the source I learned from at the age of 15.  By the time I
graduated from high school, I was designing my own elementary
transmitters and receivers.  Then I went to college and learned the
theory behind what made it work - so I sort of "did it backward" from
many engineers.  I know "how it worked" first, and then I learned "why".
It gave me a lot of practical experience that aided me tremendously
throughout my career.

10 may a bit too young for that, and that content is a bit better
introduced when the student has some grasp of math - at least enough for
parallel and series resistors, capacitors, and inductors - so he should
be familiar with at least fractions, multiplication and division.  Once
he comes to the realization that the fraction bar indicates division, he
should be ready for those kind of calculations.

I am talking of analog stuff here.  Digital is a whole other world,
although voltage levels and current drawn by devices are in the
never-never- land between digital and analog.  TTL and CMOS devices in
DIP format are still available, and simple gates are essential starting
points for understanding digital operation at the circuit level.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/17/2017 4:44 PM, Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote:
> Here is one more approach:
>
> I took a pine 1X2 and cut it into 3” pieces ; then screwed a couple of Fahnstock clips into the
> tops of each one near the ends. I then selected an assortment of 2 node components plus a
> pile of 6” cut copper wire pieces.
> Whoopee…we could then make stuff…doorbell plus switch, simple diode rcvr, then one with a
> single transistor audio amp plus speaker (needs 3 NODE block), morse code key and buzzer
> etc etc
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Re: Suggestions for Introducing a 10-year-old to Amateur Radio and Electronics

Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT-2
The world isn't the same as when we were all 15.

I think what you have to do is find out what excites the kid, and then
finding a part of amateur radio that matches.

I'm far from 15, but I never got to love CW, even though I made more
than a few contacts when I had my novice license.

Gotta say SSB isn't that interesting either.

Always liked digital modes, but I think it'd be hard to get the
texting-generation interested in something that's far more universal in
the age of social media.

The ideas are great, but the first step in solving a problem is defining
it.  Want a specific kid involved, find out what they like, what tickles
their curiosity.

73 -- Lynn

On 10/17/2017 2:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> That is the source I learned from at the age of 15.
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