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Tom Althoff

T1 internal to FT-817

I see the FAQ for the T1 suggests that the T1 could be mounted in the FT-817 battery compartment "With some effort".

I plan on doing this but would like to hear back from anyone who's "been there / done that" before I dive in.

Tom K2TA
Greenwood Lake, NY
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Tom Althoff

Re: T1 internal to FT-817

WOW! I just put a T1-K and a T1-FT817 in my shopping cart on the Elecraft
site and got a Grand Total of $1,183.00 for a Qty of 1 of each.

The "Please choose a shipping method" field is showing $999 shipping. I'll
have to go back and be sure I didn't type the zip code for a lunar colony!
8-)
<time passes>
Yup...forgot to specify a method of shipping. I wonder if the $999 is a
bug or if it is a deliberate way of shocking the user into going back and
re-entering the data properly?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Althoff" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] T1 internal to FT-817

I see the FAQ for the T1 suggests that the T1 could be mounted in the FT-817
battery compartment "With some effort".

I plan on doing this but would like to hear back from anyone who's "been
there / done that" before I dive in.

Tom K2TA
Greenwood Lake, NY
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Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF

Re: T1 internal to FT-817

In reply to this post by Tom Althoff

There ya go. Been there, done that and here's the pictures.
http://www.ngunn.net/cyberworld/hamradio/t1/index.html

Tom Althoff wrote:
> I see the FAQ for the T1 suggests that the T1 could be mounted in the FT-817 battery compartment "With some effort".
>
> I plan on doing this but would like to hear back from anyone who's "been there / done that" before I dive in.
>
> Tom K2TA
> Greenwood Lake, NY
>

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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: T1 internal to FT-817

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In reply to this post by Tom Althoff

Hi Tom,

Have no fear - we will not charge you $999 for shipping.

What that means is that you did not pick a shipping method. We use $999
to get your attention. I guess it did! :-) The phrase "Please choose a
shipping method" right next to it says it all. In any case, if you
actually submitted it this way you can resubmit with the correct
shipping and just note in the comments section to ignore your prior order.

If we see something like this get through on an order we always contact
the buyer to set up the desired shipping method.

73,
Eric

Tom Althoff wrote:

> WOW! I just put a T1-K and a T1-FT817 in my shopping cart on the
> Elecraft site and got a Grand Total of $1,183.00 for a Qty of 1 of each.
>
> The "Please choose a shipping method" field is showing $999
> shipping. I'll have to go back and be sure I didn't type the zip
> code for a lunar colony! 8-)
> <time passes>
> Yup...forgot to specify a method of shipping. I wonder if the $999
> is a bug or if it is a deliberate way of shocking the user into going
> back and re-entering the data properly?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Althoff" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:43 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] T1 internal to FT-817
>
>
> I see the FAQ for the T1 suggests that the T1 could be mounted in the
> FT-817 battery compartment "With some effort".
>
> I plan on doing this but would like to hear back from anyone who's
> "been there / done that" before I dive in.
>
> Tom K2TA
> Greenwood Lake, NY
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Tom Althoff

Re: T1 internal to FT-817

In reply to this post by Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF

Nice job Nigel...I'm glad you included the FT-817 module too. Thanks!
I'll talk with you off-line.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF" <[hidden email]>
To: "Tom Althoff" <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] T1 internal to FT-817

> There ya go. Been there, done that and here's the pictures.
> http://www.ngunn.net/cyberworld/hamradio/t1/index.html
>
>
> Tom Althoff wrote:
>> I see the FAQ for the T1 suggests that the T1 could be mounted in the
>> FT-817 battery compartment "With some effort".
>>
>> I plan on doing this but would like to hear back from anyone who's "been
>> there / done that" before I dive in.
>>
>> Tom K2TA
>> Greenwood Lake, NY
>>
>

wayne burdick

Re: T1 internal to FT-817

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In reply to this post by Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF

Tom,

Nigel did an amazing job with his T1 installation, but you might
consider a far simpler alternative. Not as well integrated, but it may
suffice for your needs.

The T1 board set as normally built -- with the control board mounted in
its usual place -- will fit inside the 817's battery compartment. You
could mount it to the battery cover with standoffs, and drill holes for
the switches and LEDs on the control board. The required cables (RF
in/out and control cable) can be routed out of the compartment though a
hole, then connected to the FT817's rear-panel antenna and CAT (DIN8)
connectors.

The advantage of this configuration is that it minimizes what you have
to do to the FT817. The disadvantage is that you have to lift up the
rig to see the T1's buttons and LEDs. But that may be a complete
non-issue because the T1 stores L-network settings on all bands, and
recalls those settings as you change bands on the radio. If you don't
plan to change antenna systems very often, this may suffice. There's no
need to look at or touch the T1 once it has been configured.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

> There ya go. Been there, done that and here's the pictures.
> http://www.ngunn.net/cyberworld/hamradio/t1/index.html

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Tom Althoff

Re: T1 internal to FT-817

Thanks Wayne..I was just telling Nigel I'd like to mount it in the battery
compartment if there is room. I have the Palm Peg-legs so the front of the
rig will be tilted up so I could hit the buttons when necessary.

----- Original Message -----
From: "wayne burdick" <[hidden email]>
To: "Tom Althoff" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>; "Nigel A. Gunn
G8IFF/KC8NHF" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: T1 internal to FT-817

> Tom,
>
> Nigel did an amazing job with his T1 installation, but you might consider
> a far simpler alternative. Not as well integrated, but it may suffice for
> your needs.
>
> The T1 board set as normally built -- with the control board mounted in
> its usual place -- will fit inside the 817's battery compartment. You
> could mount it to the battery cover with standoffs, and drill holes for
> the switches and LEDs on the control board. The required cables (RF in/out
> and control cable) can be routed out of the compartment though a hole,
> then connected to the FT817's rear-panel antenna and CAT (DIN8)
> connectors.
>
> The advantage of this configuration is that it minimizes what you have to
> do to the FT817. The disadvantage is that you have to lift up the rig to
> see the T1's buttons and LEDs. But that may be a complete non-issue
> because the T1 stores L-network settings on all bands, and recalls those
> settings as you change bands on the radio. If you don't plan to change
> antenna systems very often, this may suffice. There's no need to look at
> or touch the T1 once it has been configured.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> There ya go. Been there, done that and here's the pictures.
>> http://www.ngunn.net/cyberworld/hamradio/t1/index.html
>
> ---
>
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>

Tom Althoff

Re: T1 internal to FT-817

In reply to this post by Tom Althoff

Well...last night I finished installing the T1 internally to my FT-817 with
help and suggestions from Nigel G8IFF and Wayne.

After seeign the guts of the radio I decided I was not courageous enough to
try to open up the DIN of the FT-817 adaptor and solder the leads directly
to the board. I ended up cutting a corner out of the side of the plastic
housing of the chassis DIN connector and also cut a notch into the outer
layer of the DIN shell so that the cable would fit in the notch. This
allowed me to pass the control cable through the same opening that the DIN
plugs into (see photo). If I ever need to plug something else in there I
still have the option of a Y-cable adaptor.

I covered the battery compartment with mylar adhesive tape and put a piece
of clear plastic cut out from a 3 ring folder cover to insulate the T1's
boards from the metal case of the Yaseu.

After drilling holes in the battery compartment cover using the original T1
case as a template I peeled off the T1 label, cut the bottom inch off and
used it to cover the "ANT" and "XCVR" portion of the label and then stuck it
on the FT-817.

The LED's fit perfectly in the holes and keep the board from sliding around
in the battery compartment and the cover presses firmly on the face of the
T1 so it doesn't vibrate or wiggle in any way.

RG-174 was run between the T1's BNC's and the SO-239 of the FT-817. I
soldered directly to the PC as there was not enough room to use male BNC
plugs to connect to the BNC sockets.

At some point I will open up the radio again and take some close-up pics.
In the mean time here is a photo of the finished project. You can see the
DIN connector plugged in on the back of the radio but it is not apparant
that the lead is going back into the same hole that the DIN is plugged into.
http://www.k2ta.com/t1_internal1.jpg

I have the Palm legs and whenever I change bands the T1 enters the "green
light blinking" mode that is visible as a green glow reflected under the
radio. If I hit a sting of dashes at that point I can force the T1 to
retune. If I wait for the green flashing LED to stop after a few seconds
the T1 uses the last remembered settings. If I ever need to read power
and status etc I can always turn the radio on its side to press the buttons
but in day-to-day operation the tuner is truely automatic and I never miss
not "seeing" the LED's.

Thanks to Nigel for his example and also Wayne and Eric for designing the T1
in such a way as to allow this type of installation to be feasible at all.
The T1 is sooooo cool!

73 de Tom K2TA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Althoff" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] T1 internal to FT-817

I see the FAQ for the T1 suggests that the T1 could be mounted in the FT-817
battery compartment "With some effort".

I plan on doing this but would like to hear back from anyone who's "been
there / done that" before I dive in.

Tom K2TA
Greenwood Lake, NY
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