TS-590S Audio/Rob Sherwood
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Has Elecraft made any progress towards repairing the ugly audio that Rob
Sherwood discusses in his presentation. This is the only thing that keeps me from buying or trying a K3 at this point. My hearing is limited and the ears are very finicky about certain ranges. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a K3 to play with at this point. Thanks! Steve ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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See Wayne's previous comments here: http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg155172.html I believe Rob's description and photos are ~5 years old (Fall of 2008 I think he said). Responding to problems is a hallmark of Elecraft and something that you won't find from most manufacturers (e.g. has Kenwood yet responded to the TX spike issue?) 73, Bill W4ZV |
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Hi Steve
That problem was taken care several years ago not long after Rob brought it to their attention, it's fine now no issues. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Crownhaven Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:26 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] TS-590S Audio/Rob Sherwood Has Elecraft made any progress towards repairing the ugly audio that Rob Sherwood discusses in his presentation. This is the only thing that keeps me from buying or trying a K3 at this point. My hearing is limited and the ears are very finicky about certain ranges. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a K3 to play with at this point. Thanks! Steve ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3199/6391 - Release Date: 06/07/13 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3199/6391 - Release Date: 06/07/13 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Steve,
Depending on where you're located, we may be able to find a K3 owner willing to let you have a listen to their radio. Many of our customers seem to love giving demos :) If you're interested, please contact Lisa ([hidden email]). 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Crownhaven <[hidden email]> wrote: > Has Elecraft made any progress towards repairing the ugly audio that Rob Sherwood discusses in his presentation. This is the only thing that keeps me from buying or trying a K3 at this point. My hearing is limited and the ears are very finicky about certain ranges. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a K3 to play with at this point. > > Thanks! > > Steve > _________ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wayne, team
I am pretty sure at a certain point the K3 will go out of production due component EOL (and I am sure elecraft already have a strategy, and this is normal). Now maybe is waaay to early to speak abt "k3 discontinued" but for a future developement if will be possible, design K4 in such a way to keep some of our old k3 optionals. Aparently seems is not a good marketing strategy but is not (ham comunity is somehow different than classical consumer market, a product lifetime is not 12 or 18months, is 5 years or longer) and along with many new fresh users, the old k3 owners could migrate smoothly into next one and decision factor is going to be faster bringing on a short time more revenue to sustain the production. Migration from K3 to K4 is not the same like from K2 to K3, market is different, users are different..another class...On the other hand Elecraft could reuse some of the old stock components/boards/test manufacturing...etc....my two cents. And one more hint...don't go over the OLED multi-touch screen technology for further developements, is a waste of time, resources and ultimately is a waste of money. I am scared abt MTBF of consumer displays, working somehow around this field, the mtbf of consumer touchscreen displays is horrible, no wonder as long as lifetime of smartphones is under 18 months on avg use, who cares abt lifetime, mtbf, needs to be cheap...Wonder some other vendors how will face repair ...loool vy 73 de VE3GNO Daniel ________________________________ From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 1:50:14 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-590S Audio/Rob Sherwood Steve, Depending on where you're located, we may be able to find a K3 owner willing to let you have a listen to their radio. Many of our customers seem to love giving demos :) If you're interested, please contact Lisa ([hidden email]). 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Crownhaven <[hidden email]> wrote: > Has Elecraft made any progress towards repairing the ugly audio that Rob Sherwood discusses in his presentation. This is the only thing that keeps me from buying or trying a K3 at this point. My hearing is limited and the ears are very finicky about certain ranges. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a K3 to play with at this point. > > Thanks! > > Steve > _________ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net/ Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Daniel and all,
If the K2 is any example, the K3 will not go "out of production" nor "out of support" anytime soon. The K2 is a 14 year old design (Field Test was in 1999), and is still being sold. Yes, there have been a few changes due to component availability, but Elecraft has responded with alternatives that are just as good or even better than the original. For instance, the IF amplifier IC is no longer available in DIP format, so a carrier board with the SMD equivalent was supplied by Elecraft. Then the PIN diode used for the BFO injection path also met the same fate and a carrier board was supplied. The speech compressor on the original KSB2 board is no longer available, so the KSB2 board was re-designed to use an alternate IC. Similarly the VFO encoder is no longer available, but the K3 encoder was modified to work in the K2. How much longer that kind of support for an "older" design will be possible is anyone's guess, but I believe Elecraft will do all within its power to keep the K2 alive and serviceable for as long as feasible. Ask yourself how many other manufacturers would go to those lengths to provide continued support for a 14 year old design? Based on that history, I would suggest that the K3 will have a very long life too. Elecraft has not changed its support position since 'day one', so expect your K3 to last a long time. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/7/2013 4:52 PM, VE3GNO Daniel wrote: > Wayne, team > > I am pretty sure at a certain point the K3 will go out of production due component EOL (and I am sure elecraft already have a strategy, and this is normal). > Now maybe is waaay to early to speak abt "k3 discontinued" but for a future developement if will be possible, design K4 in such a way to keep some of our old k3 optionals. Aparently seems is not a good marketing strategy but is not (ham comunity is somehow different than classical consumer market, a product lifetime is not 12 or 18months, is 5 years or longer) and along with many new fresh users, the old k3 owners could migrate smoothly into next one and decision factor is going to be faster bringing on a short time more revenue to sustain the production. Migration from K3 to K4 is not the same like from K2 to K3, market is different, users are different..another class...On the other hand Elecraft could reuse some of the old stock components/boards/test manufacturing...etc....my two cents. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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