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TenTec Hamfest

Steve Ellington
Any other Elecrafters going to the TT hamfest tomorrow?

Steve N4LQ
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Alan Fryer-2
I'll be there, my favorite fest !

Alan, N3BJ

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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Julius Fazekas n2wn
There were a few Elecraft folks in attendance, I'm sure I missed a few too.

Did have a number of comments as to how brave I was wearing my K3 Tee Shirt in the flea market ;o)

On noticed one K2 for sale...

72/3,
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

John_N1JM
Anyone look at their new radio?
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Ignacy
Their Eagle is small (like K2) with few buttons in front and few connectors in back. No SPLT button, no rx ant. 7lb with all the options.   First IF at 9 Mhz with 2.4K standard and two empty slots, and 2nd IF with DSP.  Around $1800 with no ant tuner and $2k with a tuner.

It seems that they are finding a  niche in simplicity.

If it performs well, there radio may be good for simple Dxpeditions where small size and dimensions matter, and one does not want to carry a separate tuner.

Very nice flea market, with lots of good stuff at good prices.

Friendly Tentec staff. A knob in my TT238 broke. They gave me two free.

Ignacy
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Jon Kåre Hellan
Ignacy wrote:
> Their Eagle is small (like K2) with few buttons in front and few connectors
> in back.

The computer connection is USB, and there's a 7 pin DIN accessories connector.
The USB socket is type A (as on printers), not type B (as on all of the dozen of unused USB cables you
probably have lying around.)

Jon LA4RT, Trondheim, Norway
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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 > No SPLT button, no rx ant. 7lb with all the options.

   snip

 > If it performs well, there radio may be good for simple Dxpeditions
 > where small size and dimensions matter, and one does not want to
 > carry a separate tuner.

With no split and without a separate receive antenna it will be
useless for any significant DXpedition.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/27/2010 9:28 AM, Ignacy wrote:

>
> Their Eagle is small (like K2) with few buttons in front and few connectors
> in back. No SPLT button, no rx ant. 7lb with all the options.   First IF at
> 9 Mhz with 2.4K standard and two empty slots, and 2nd IF with DSP.  Around
> $1800 with no ant tuner and $2k with a tuner.
>
> It seems that they are finding a  niche in simplicity.
>
> If it performs well, there radio may be good for simple Dxpeditions where
> small size and dimensions matter, and one does not want to carry a separate
> tuner.
>
> Very nice flea market, with lots of good stuff at good prices.
>
> Friendly Tentec staff. A knob in my TT238 broke. They gave me two free.
>
> Ignacy
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Bob Cunnings NW8L
The 599 does have a SPLIT function. According  to the Eagle manual:

To operate SPLIT mode simply press and
hold the A/B button for 2 seconds. The word
SPLIT will appear next to the B VFO which
also indicates the frequency you will be
transmitting on. Remember when in SPLIT
mode you will always be transmitting on
VFO B.

Bob NW8L

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>  > No SPLT button, no rx ant. 7lb with all the options.
>
>   snip
>
>  > If it performs well, there radio may be good for simple Dxpeditions
>  > where small size and dimensions matter, and one does not want to
>  > carry a separate tuner.
>
> With no split and without a separate receive antenna it will be
> useless for any significant DXpedition.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 9/27/2010 9:28 AM, Ignacy wrote:
>>
>> Their Eagle is small (like K2) with few buttons in front and few connectors
>> in back. No SPLT button, no rx ant. 7lb with all the options.   First IF at
>> 9 Mhz with 2.4K standard and two empty slots, and 2nd IF with DSP.  Around
>> $1800 with no ant tuner and $2k with a tuner.
>>
>> It seems that they are finding a  niche in simplicity.
>>
>> If it performs well, there radio may be good for simple Dxpeditions where
>> small size and dimensions matter, and one does not want to carry a separate
>> tuner.
>>
>> Very nice flea market, with lots of good stuff at good prices.
>>
>> Friendly Tentec staff. A knob in my TT238 broke. They gave me two free.
>>
>> Ignacy
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Bob Cunnings NW8L
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What I noticed was missing is a dedicated RIT *knob*. The RIT function
exists, but as a secondary function, requiring two button presses to
set it up. According to the manual:

RIT (22)
The receiver integrated tuning can be selected
as a secondary button function by pressing
FNC and then the MOD button. You will
notice RIT will begin to flash on the front
panel and you may now adjust the receiver in
10 Hz increments up or down frequency
using the MULTI knob. To zero out the RIT
simply press and hold the MOD button and
the display will zero out. To exit simply
press the FNC button

Bob NW8L

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Ignacy <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Their Eagle is small (like K2) with few buttons in front and few connectors
> in back. No SPLT button, no rx ant. 7lb with all the options.   First IF at
> 9 Mhz with 2.4K standard and two empty slots, and 2nd IF with DSP.  Around
> $1800 with no ant tuner and $2k with a tuner.
>
> It seems that they are finding a  niche in simplicity.
>
> If it performs well, there radio may be good for simple Dxpeditions where
> small size and dimensions matter, and one does not want to carry a separate
> tuner.
>
> Very nice flea market, with lots of good stuff at good prices.
>
> Friendly Tentec staff. A knob in my TT238 broke. They gave me two free.
>
> Ignacy
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Steve Ellington
I used the Eagle while there for one cw QSO while at the hamfest. The keying
relay was loud enough to be heard above the crowd which was a deal breaker
for me. Otherwise it was similar to using the Jupiter but with better
filtering.  Anyway. Here's the link to all the information.
http://www.tentec.com/?id=360
It will compete with Kenwoods TS-590, same price.  Here's the link:
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/UserFiles/File/UnitedStates/Communications/AMA/Brochures/TS-590.pdf

Make your own decision.

Steve

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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Ronald Hall
In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4
The Ten Ten information sheet lists dual VFO's and SPLIT operation.
Can be seen on their web site.

73  Ron  KP2N


--- On Mon, 9/27/10, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TenTec Hamfest
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:21 AM


 > No SPLT button, no rx ant. 7lb with all the options.

   snip

 > If it performs well, there radio may be good for simple Dxpeditions
 > where small size and dimensions matter, and one does not want to
 > carry a separate tuner.

With no split and without a separate receive antenna it will be
useless for any significant DXpedition.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/27/2010 9:28 AM, Ignacy wrote:

>
> Their Eagle is small (like K2) with few buttons in front and few connectors
> in back. No SPLT button, no rx ant. 7lb with all the options.   First IF at
> 9 Mhz with 2.4K standard and two empty slots, and 2nd IF with DSP.  Around
> $1800 with no ant tuner and $2k with a tuner.
>
> It seems that they are finding a  niche in simplicity.
>
> If it performs well, there radio may be good for simple Dxpeditions where
> small size and dimensions matter, and one does not want to carry a separate
> tuner.
>
> Very nice flea market, with lots of good stuff at good prices.
>
> Friendly Tentec staff. A knob in my TT238 broke. They gave me two free.
>
> Ignacy
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Ignacy
I looked at the docs again. No built-in speech processor. This is a deal breaker for me.  They are selling the external one, but it is another box and an expense.  Perhaps some options will come later with refined software.

Not sure why are they marketing their external speech processor to advanced radios. The internal RF processors can be done more efficiently and inside the ALC loop.  
Ignacy
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Re: TenTec Hamfest

Barry N1EU
Looks like the TT Eagle has some real tough competition in the TS-590.

Personally, I think TT's goal with the Eagle is to field test the bones of their new hf architecture that we will see down the road in a full-featured dual rx Orion III or whatever they will call it.

73, Barry N1EU
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[OT]TenTec Hamfest

k6dgw
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Does TenTec have their own reflector?

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
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Re: [OT]TenTec Hamfest

Steve Ellington
The main TenTec group is on contesting.com. It's moderated and if you say
anything negative about tentec they will boot you off.
I made the mistake of complaining about their chirpy Omni VI+ and got the
boot. Haven't had much to do with them for years now.

There are Yahoo groups for individual TT rigs. Go to groups.yahoo.com and do
a search for Eagle.

Steve N4LQ


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:34 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest


> Does TenTec have their own reflector?
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
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Re: [OT]TenTec Hamfest

n7ws
That's a pity.  I've often been vocal about K3 problems, but it's made it a better radio because the designers listen.

Also a pity, the TT is another 13V radio with horrible TX IMD specs.

--- On Mon, 9/27/10, Steve Ellington <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The main TenTec group is on
> contesting.com. It's moderated and if you say
> anything negative about tentec they will boot you off.
> I made the mistake of complaining about their chirpy Omni
> VI+ and got the
> boot. Haven't had much to do with them for years now.
>
> There are Yahoo groups for individual TT rigs. Go to
> groups.yahoo.com and do
> a search for Eagle.
>
> Steve N4LQ


     
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Re: [OT]TenTec Hamfest

Curt-17
In reply to this post by Steve Ellington
I can top that one.

I am not allowed to purchase anything from them---TEN TEC-- because I sent back a radio under THEIR 30 return policy---and they BRAG about that return policy! lol

It's been years now and I too have had nothing to do with them.

So why are we giving them time and space on a Elecraft reflector anyway?

They couldn't give me a radio, that's what I think of that company.

73

Curt
k3ey

--- On Mon, 9/27/10, Steve Ellington <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Steve Ellington <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest
To: [hidden email], "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 1:32 PM

The main TenTec group is on contesting.com. It's moderated and if you say
anything negative about tentec they will boot you off.
I made the mistake of complaining about their chirpy Omni VI+ and got the
boot. Haven't had much to do with them for years now.

There are Yahoo groups for individual TT rigs. Go to groups.yahoo.com and do
a search for Eagle.

Steve N4LQ


----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Jensen" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:34 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest


> Does TenTec have their own reflector?
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
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Re: [OT]TenTec Hamfest

Mike Harris
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The subject needs booting off the Elecraft reflector also.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

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<[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:32 PM
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> The main TenTec group is on contesting.com. It's moderated and if
> you say
> anything negative about tentec they will boot you off.
> I made the mistake of complaining about their chirpy Omni VI+ and
> got the
> boot. Haven't had much to do with them for years now.
>
> There are Yahoo groups for individual TT rigs. Go to
> groups.yahoo.com and do
> a search for Eagle.
>
> Steve N4LQ
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Jensen" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:34 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest
>
>
>> Does TenTec have their own reflector?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred K6DGW
>> - Northern California Contest Club
>> - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
>> - www.cqp.org

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Re: [OT]TenTec Hamfest

Gary Gregory
NO, not yet. Objective discussion on the merits of design philosophy and
construction and operability etc is helpful to many of us.

Of course the "Delete" key is an option we all know how to use.

I think Eric will wait till the postings become an issue with regard to the
reflector guidelines and at that point he will slap us on the wrist for
being naughty boys...Grin

I have learnt a couple of things so far on the postings and that is a good
thing for me.

73's
Gary

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Mike Harris <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The subject needs booting off the Elecraft reflector also.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Ellington" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector"
> <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest
>
>
> > The main TenTec group is on contesting.com. It's moderated and if
> > you say
> > anything negative about tentec they will boot you off.
> > I made the mistake of complaining about their chirpy Omni VI+ and
> > got the
> > boot. Haven't had much to do with them for years now.
> >
> > There are Yahoo groups for individual TT rigs. Go to
> > groups.yahoo.com and do
> > a search for Eagle.
> >
> > Steve N4LQ
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fred Jensen" <[hidden email]>
> > To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:34 PM
> > Subject: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest
> >
> >
> >> Does TenTec have their own reflector?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Fred K6DGW
> >> - Northern California Contest Club
> >> - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
> >> - www.cqp.org
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Re: [OT]TenTec Hamfest

Steve Ellington
In reply to this post by Mike Harris
Just ignore if you don't like.....
Elecraft has helped set a design standard that is now showing up in other
rigs such as the Eagle and TS-590. We need freedom to discuss the merits of
each application.

Steve

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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest


> The subject needs booting off the Elecraft reflector also.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Ellington" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector"
> <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest
>
>
>> The main TenTec group is on contesting.com. It's moderated and if
>> you say
>> anything negative about tentec they will boot you off.
>> I made the mistake of complaining about their chirpy Omni VI+ and
>> got the
>> boot. Haven't had much to do with them for years now.
>>
>> There are Yahoo groups for individual TT rigs. Go to
>> groups.yahoo.com and do
>> a search for Eagle.
>>
>> Steve N4LQ
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fred Jensen" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:34 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] [OT]TenTec Hamfest
>>
>>
>>> Does TenTec have their own reflector?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Fred K6DGW
>>> - Northern California Contest Club
>>> - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
>>> - www.cqp.org
>
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