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Re: K3 LED/LCD brightness

drewko
Actually, I sometimes like to use the "day" settings at night when I
don't necessarily need to be watching at the display-- the LED
brightness is way too bright then. It would be nice to be able to turn
them down also.

Funny thing... as much power is consumed when LCD Brt is set to "dAY"
(backlight = off)  as when it is set to max. I guess some of this is
due to the extremely bright LEDs in the day settng.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:22:15 -0700, ~Iain / N6ML wrote:

>
>
>drewko wrote:
>> Is there any way to reduce the LED brightness when "LCD Brt" is set to
>> "dAY"? It seems the LEDs default to an extremely bright state when the
>> LCD backlight is turned off.
>
>Interesting. The "LED BRT" setting seems to be disabled when "LCD BRT"
>is set to "dAY". Perhaps that could be fixed (to allow a separate
>day-time "LED BRT" setting).
>
>Personally I find the LCD difficult to read in "dAY" mode anyway, but
>the glaring LEDs do make it even worse...
>
>     ~Iain / N6ML

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Re: K3 LED/LCD brightness

WILLIS COOKE
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Now I see what you are talking about Drew.  I never paid attention to these settings other than LCD Brightness and Back light Brightness. I am not sure what your reason for turning the back light off might be.  If you are operating in sun light I don't think that you can see the back light on the LCD with a setting at 2 and the current drain is small enough that I don't detect it on my power supply ammeter.  I have never tried to operate my K3 outdoors and I am simulating it by aiming my 75 watt desk lamp at the LCD, but that looks OK to me.  Is that a possible work around for your?
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ


--- On Wed, 7/15/09, drewko <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: drewko <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 LED/LCD brightness
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 10:21 AM
> Cookie,
>
> The LEDs are the ones on the Shift, Width, etc. knobs; they
> become
> extremely bright when "LCD Brt" (display backlight) is set
> to "dAY"
> (or off), and there is no way to adjust them because "LED
> Brt" is no
> longer functional (it just beeps when you spin the vfo).
> Only when
> "LCD Brt" is set at some value 1 to 8 can "LED Brt" be
> adjusted.
>
> I checked the above text about five times for proper use of
> LED vs
> LCD... it can get a little confusing, hahah
>
> Anyhow, I'd like to use the LCD "day" setting and also be
> able to
> adjust the LED brightness down.
>
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:58:49 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>
> >
> >It appears to me that the LCDs have only one
> brightness, none!  Only the back light has
> brightness.  When set to DAY the back light is off and
> the contrast is just from the reflection on the back plane
> versus opaque for the activated elements.  I didn't
> know there was a Day setting until your post even after a
> few thousand contacts over the past year.
> >
> >Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> >K5EWJ
> >
> >
>
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Re: K3 LED/LCD brightness

drewko
Cookie, I can see the "dAY" display pretty well with my normal indoor
operating position lighting, but the LEDs at this setting are
irritatingly bright.

Sometimes during the day I have the rig on, just scanning a band or
listening to a SWBC station while I'm doing something else around the
shack; don't really need the display on then anyway.

The ma difference as shown on the K3 between LCD Brt "2" and "dAY" is
about 70 ma. (No, I'm not a global warmist or anything... far from it.
Just thought it was interesting...)

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT), Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
wrote:

>
>Now I see what you are talking about Drew.  I never paid attention to these settings other than LCD Brightness and Back light Brightness. I am not sure what your reason for turning the back light off might be.  If you are operating in sun light I don't think that you can see the back light on the LCD with a setting at 2 and the current drain is small enough that I don't detect it on my power supply ammeter.  I have never tried to operate my K3 outdoors and I am simulating it by aiming my 75 watt desk lamp at the LCD, but that looks OK to me.  Is that a possible work around for your?
>
>Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
>K5EWJ
>
>

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Re: K3 LED/LCD brightness

WILLIS COOKE
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You have a much more sensitive ammeter than I do Drew.  I draw about an amp with the back light on 4 where I usually keep it, but I can;t see the difference if I change the setting to DAY.  70 ma at 13.8 V is only about 1 watt.  My desk lamp has a 60 watt bulb so you would save more money to turn off some of the lights in your ham shack.

Still, it should be possible to allow you to adjust the LEDs with a software change if the software gurus work it to the top of their priority list.

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ


--- On Wed, 7/15/09, drewko <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: drewko <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 LED/LCD brightness
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:26 AM
> Cookie, I can see the "dAY" display
> pretty well with my normal indoor
> operating position lighting, but the LEDs at this setting
> are
> irritatingly bright.
>
> Sometimes during the day I have the rig on, just scanning a
> band or
> listening to a SWBC station while I'm doing something else
> around the
> shack; don't really need the display on then anyway.
>
> The ma difference as shown on the K3 between LCD Brt "2"
> and "dAY" is
> about 70 ma. (No, I'm not a global warmist or anything...
> far from it.
> Just thought it was interesting...)
>
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT), Willis 'Cookie'
> Cooke
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Now I see what you are talking about Drew.  I
> never paid attention to these settings other than LCD
> Brightness and Back light Brightness. I am not sure what
> your reason for turning the back light off might be. 
> If you are operating in sun light I don't think that you can
> see the back light on the LCD with a setting at 2 and the
> current drain is small enough that I don't detect it on my
> power supply ammeter.  I have never tried to operate my
> K3 outdoors and I am simulating it by aiming my 75 watt desk
> lamp at the LCD, but that looks OK to me.  Is that a
> possible work around for your?
> >
> >Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> >K5EWJ
> >
> >
>
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Re: K3 LED/LCD brightness

Steve Ellington
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Me either nor do I recycle but those LEDs being on when the display is off
seems rather odd.
"No, I'm not a global warmist or anything... far from it."

Steve
N4LQ
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 LED/LCD brightness


> Cookie, I can see the "dAY" display pretty well with my normal indoor
> operating position lighting, but the LEDs at this setting are
> irritatingly bright.
>
> Sometimes during the day I have the rig on, just scanning a band or
> listening to a SWBC station while I'm doing something else around the
> shack; don't really need the display on then anyway.
>
> The ma difference as shown on the K3 between LCD Brt "2" and "dAY" is
> about 70 ma. (No, I'm not a global warmist or anything... far from it.
> Just thought it was interesting...)
>
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT), Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Now I see what you are talking about Drew.  I never paid attention to
>>these settings other than LCD Brightness and Back light Brightness. I am
>>not sure what your reason for turning the back light off might be.  If you
>>are operating in sun light I don't think that you can see the back light
>>on the LCD with a setting at 2 and the current drain is small enough that
>>I don't detect it on my power supply ammeter.  I have never tried to
>>operate my K3 outdoors and I am simulating it by aiming my 75 watt desk
>>lamp at the LCD, but that looks OK to me.  Is that a possible work around
>>for your?
>>
>>Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
>>K5EWJ
>>
>>
>
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Re: K3 SCAN request

DaveL  G3TJP
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Yes, I'd like that too, if it's possible to implement it.  Fingers crossed.....

73  DaveL  G3TJP

drewko wrote:
Is there any reason why SCAN could not be made to operate on the
current paramters displayed in the VFOs? A lot of times I want to scan
a range without storing it in a memory location. As it is now, in
order to SCAN the current VFO settings you have to go through six
steps:
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