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Hello Elecrafters.
Did you ever stop and think about what your doing when complaining about something with your K3. Here is a little company made up of very dedicated people who love ham radio and are successfully releasing one of the best rigs ever.This company stands poised to try to satisfy all their customers demands. Here we are, in some ways, taking advantage of this company by complaining about not being able to operate a linear with a 110 volt AC switching voltage for keying! What do you want the Elecraft people to do, stand on their head. I have never seen an equipment vendor provide as much customer support that Elecraft does. There are limits and we are Radio Amateurs. We are suppose to be able to either perform some simple modifications or have a friend help you. I fully appreciate the fact that some of us are not technically endowed but the vendor cannot be responsible for every situation. When a vendor puts out a specification, he is only legally responsible to that spec. Elecraft had long since past this goal. If you buy an ICOM product and complain about their linear keying delay guess what, you live with it. All I am saying is appreciate what a good thing you have here when dealing with Elecraft. Don't abuse it. 73 Dave KD1NA Proud owner of 2 K2s and soon a K3 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ummmm.....Dave....
Last I checked, Elecraft was in business to make a profit, and while chatting with Eric at the Orlando Hamcation this year, he mentioned that they were, in fact, profitable, with no debt. These are good things! They should make a profit for their efforts. However, they experienced business people, and Elecraft is not the first business they've run. They are in fact in control of the means of production - including firmware updates, and can chose where to draw the "lines in the sand" (I hate that cliche) with respect to what work item they schedule for action. Nobody's taking advantage of them. Actually, I could argue the exact opposite: if anyone's been taking advantage, it's Elecraft of their customers. See "Long Wait Times", "Free Loans (aka Deposits)", "Immature Firmware", and "Missing Advertised (STILL!) Functionality After One Year On The Market". 'Nuff said. I'm going to put on my climbing harness, and go do some antenna work. It's going to be 95F down here in Florida today - just right for hanging off a 140' tower. ;-) 73, Steve NN4X On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:59 AM, David Robertson <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello Elecrafters. > > Did you ever stop and think about what your doing when complaining about something with your K3. Here is a little company made up of very dedicated people who love ham radio and are successfully releasing one of the best rigs ever.This company stands poised to try to satisfy all their customers demands. > > Here we are, in some ways, taking advantage of this company by complaining about not being able to operate a linear with a 110 volt AC switching voltage for keying! What do you want the Elecraft people to do, stand on their head. > I have never seen an equipment vendor provide as much customer support that Elecraft does. > > There are limits and we are Radio Amateurs. We are suppose to be able to either perform some simple modifications or have a friend help you. I fully appreciate the fact that some of us are not technically endowed but the vendor cannot be responsible for every situation. When a vendor puts out a specification, he is only legally responsible to that spec. Elecraft had long since past this goal. > > If you buy an ICOM product and complain about their linear keying delay guess what, you live with it. > > All I am saying is appreciate what a good thing you have here when dealing with Elecraft. Don't abuse it. > > 73 > > Dave KD1NA > Proud owner of 2 K2s and soon a K3 > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hash: SHA1 Exactly David. Name another modern Ham Radio transceiver that will switch 120V AC relays in an amp WITHOUT using a low DC relay. Maybe it's just the way email comes across but the tone around here has been getting a little "demanding" for lack of a better term. I see "suggestions" like "my XXXX does it this way, why did Elecraft do it that way, please change it back to this way." Simple solution, if your XXXX does it the way you think it should be done by all means use your XXXX. Aye, but there's the rub, your XXXX is deaf as a post compared to the K3. I had to chuckle during the "AM wars". Doesn't anybody else think it's just slightly ridiculous trying to make an 8 pound, solid state, SDR transceiver sound like a 250lb Globe King 500C while on AM? Sit back and ponder that. There also seems to be a large number of firmware programming specialists on this reflector. As I'm typing this there are about 30 or so messages in my K3 folder. I guarantee one of them will contain the words "should be an easy thing to do in firmware". NO! If it was an easy thing to do everybody would be doing it. BTW, why haven't some of these "experts" started their own radio companies? Seems to me they're like most Ham Radio clubs. Someone will stand up with a great idea, everybody is in favor of it, best thing since sliced bread, "this will change ham radio forever" type stuff. When it comes time to actually do real work on the project the noise from the crickets chirping is deafening. Nary a soul to be found. Elecraft should concentrate on making the K3 the best they can and how they envisioned it. It's quickly turning into a horse designed by committee. - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIJZ2z11jxjloa2wsRAiZNAJ9+Ra669tg8kKoNtWMeApGJ5ylMpgCeL3c0 u6fimLOD+93EdX88o/gDRKg= =r0lQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello Dave I could not agree more, I have monitored this debate and as pointed out by
more that one contributer there are ways around it just let Elecraft get on with what they do best......Peter G3MLO.
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I have K3/100 #757 using firmware 1.88 MCU and 1.70 DSP.
When trying the Low-Power (5W) Transmitter Gain Calibration, it works on 80 and 20 meters, but on all other bands I get an "ERR TXG" message. The Synthesizer Calibration and Reference Oscillator Calibration (using WWV zero beat) run OK. I have checked that I have my two filters (500 and 2.7) setup properly. I have been thru the filter bandwidth, freq center, receive filter enables, and transmit filter selections several times. Any ideas what the problem might be? 73, Paul K5ESW _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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