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Richard Thorpe-2
Please tell me more about the ability to monitor transmit audio on the P3.  Thank you.

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Re: Transmit Audio

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

If the RS-232 cable is not installed between the P3 and K3 the P3
will not "mute" during transmit and one can see the transmit IF.

Note - this is *not* a transmit RF display as it does not show the
effects of the final mixer, driver and/or final so any IMD/clipping
generated in the final amplifier is not reflected in the display.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/7/2011 11:39 AM, Richard Thorpe wrote:

> Please tell me more about the ability to monitor transmit audio on the P3.  Thank you.
>
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Re: Transmit Audio

ab2tc
It's also a result of internal leakage paths so I am not sure that it can even be trusted to be representative of the signal delivered to the output stages of the transmitter.

AB2TC - Knut

Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
If the RS-232 cable is not installed between the P3 and K3 the P3
will not "mute" during transmit and one can see the transmit IF.

Note - this is *not* a transmit RF display as it does not show the
effects of the final mixer, driver and/or final so any IMD/clipping
generated in the final amplifier is not reflected in the display.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

<snip>
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Re: Transmit Audio

Alan Bloom
It's useful for checking your transmit equalization with a specific
voice and microphone.  At N1AL, I discovered that I had way too much
bass so I adjusted the K3's TX equalizer to make it flatter.

As Joe says, it does not include the effects of amplifier distortion.
And as Knut says, the signal level depends on random leakage through the
mixer and PIN diodes, so it varies with band, drive level settings, and
sample-to-sample variation of the particular K3.  There's no guarantee
that there will be enough signal available to be useful.  That's the
main reason I resist making it an "official" feature.

Alan N1AL


On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 09:36 -0800, ab2tc wrote:

> It's also a result of internal leakage paths so I am not sure that it can
> even be trusted to be representative of the signal delivered to the output
> stages of the transmitter.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
> >
> > If the RS-232 cable is not installed between the P3 and K3 the P3
> > will not "mute" during transmit and one can see the transmit IF.
> >
> > Note - this is *not* a transmit RF display as it does not show the
> > effects of the final mixer, driver and/or final so any IMD/clipping
> > generated in the final amplifier is not reflected in the display.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >     ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> > <snip>
> >
>
>
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Re: Transmit Audio

Gary Gregory
Alan,

When it does become a usable function of the P3 I am sure you will see a spike in sales volume.

Till then I can get along without it.


Gary


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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Alan Bloom
  To: ab2tc
  Cc: [hidden email]
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Transmit Audio


  It's useful for checking your transmit equalization with a specific
  voice and microphone.  At N1AL, I discovered that I had way too much
  bass so I adjusted the K3's TX equalizer to make it flatter.

  As Joe says, it does not include the effects of amplifier distortion.
  And as Knut says, the signal level depends on random leakage through the
  mixer and PIN diodes, so it varies with band, drive level settings, and
  sample-to-sample variation of the particular K3.  There's no guarantee
  that there will be enough signal available to be useful.  That's the
  main reason I resist making it an "official" feature.

  Alan N1AL


  On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 09:36 -0800, ab2tc wrote:
  > It's also a result of internal leakage paths so I am not sure that it can
  > even be trusted to be representative of the signal delivered to the output
  > stages of the transmitter.
  >
  > AB2TC - Knut
  >
  >
  > Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
  > >
  > > If the RS-232 cable is not installed between the P3 and K3 the P3
  > > will not "mute" during transmit and one can see the transmit IF.
  > >
  > > Note - this is *not* a transmit RF display as it does not show the
  > > effects of the final mixer, driver and/or final so any IMD/clipping
  > > generated in the final amplifier is not reflected in the display.
  > >
  > > 73,
  > >
  > >     ... Joe, W4TV
  > >
  > > <snip>
  > >
  >
  >
  > --
  > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Transmit-Audio-tp7071119p7071354.html
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