Transporting Lithium Batteries

[Jimk8mr]

It is worth noting DOT regulations for transporting lithium ion
batteries by air:

http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html

Basically Lithium Ion batteries not installed in equipment may not be
carried in checked luggage. There are some limits on what and how many
may be carried in carry on luggage, but those limits should not affect
the batteries one would normally use with a KX3.


73  -  Jim  K8MR


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[Bill Steffey NY9H]

too bad nowhere does it differentiate between the different Lithium,
chemistries..
since my 10ah LIPO iron phosphate  is supposed to be safer , but I
see no listing so it stays at home when I go on trip !!!!
Don't want to lose it in with the pocket knives.....

bill

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[Alan Jump]

I used to work in freight transportation. Here are the notes I took last
year, when the lithium-battery regs were explained to me:

The metallic lithium content limit for transport by air in carry-on is 8
grams equivalent for LiPO packs. The equivalent is calculated as 0.3 x the
capacity of the pack in Ah. More than 8 but less than 25 grams equivalent
can be placed in carry-on bags if measures are taken to prevent shorts.
There's a limit of two spare batteries per person.

LiFePO4 (A123) packs didn't get discussed in my training because they were
too new at the time, so we didn't sell them or anything that used them.

Your 10Ah battery would have a 3 gram equivalent under the formula I was
given, so you could put two in your carry-on.

DISCLAIMER: I am not affiliated with any airline, or with TSA. Check with
either the airline, TSA, or both, to determine actual restrictions.

- -
73 de N5ILN
Alan


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Bill NY9H <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> too bad nowhere does it differentiate between the different Lithium,
> chemistries..
> since my 10ah LIPO iron phosphate  is supposed to be safer , but I see no
> listing so it stays at home when I go on trip !!!!
> Don't want to lose it in with the pocket knives.....
>
> bill
>
>
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[k6dgw]

I have a 4S1P LiFePO4 [A123] pack.  I quote from the label:

"Unregulated for purposes of transportation by the US Department of
Transportation (DOT), and not subject to OSHA Hazard Communication
Requirement.  Approved by TSA for carry-on baggage.  Contains less than
8 grams equivalent lithium content per pack."

I believe mine is between 3 and 4 Ah capacity.  I know it will run my K2
on CW at 5W nearly forever it seems.  I've taken it on two flights with
my K2 in one of Rose's cases as carry-on, in neither case did TSA look
inside the canvas case although they spent a lot of time on me and the
braces on my legs.  FWIW, mine has a short pigtail terminated in APP's.
  The balancing cable is shorter and terminates in a small in-line plug.

I do know that LiFePO4 chemistry is considerably more stable than
Li-Poly, I had a small Li-Poly catch fire while [externally!!] powering
my KX1, and the fact sheet that came with it specifically said I could
not fly with it or mail it.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
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On 3/12/2014 10:51 AM, Alan Jump wrote:

> LiFePO4 (A123) packs didn't get discussed in my training because they were
> too new at the time, so we didn't sell them or anything that used them.
>
> Your 10Ah battery would have a 3 gram equivalent under the formula I was
> given, so you could put two in your carry-on.


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