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Ian Maude
Hi all,
I have the XV144 on my K2 and I wondered how it connects to the K3?  
Obviously it uses the transverter interface but on the K2 it uses the
serial interface.  How does that work on the K3 with the XV3 interface?

73 Ian

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Re: Transverting

Don Wilhelm-4
Ian,

The transverters cannot be directly connected to the K3 like they can on
the K2.  There are signals in the K3 ACC connector that can be used if
you want to be creative, but without that, the K3 can be connected to
the transverters like a non-Elecraft transceiver.

In the future you may see an adapter from Elecraft that will interface
directly between the K3 and the transverters, but if you want it right
now, you will have to create your own.

By the way (and very important) the signals from the K2 to the
transverter are *NOT* RS-232.  Look at the connector label on the K2 -
it says "AUX I/O".  Just because it is a DE-9 connector and does contain
2 signal lines (TXD and RXD) that can connect to a computer serial port
does not make it an RS-232 connector - the signals that go to the
transverter are unique K2 internal signals.

73,
Don W3FPR


Ian J Maude wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have the XV144 on my K2 and I wondered how it connects to the K3?  
> Obviously it uses the transverter interface but on the K2 it uses the
> serial interface.  How does that work on the K3 with the XV3 interface?
>
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Re: Transverting

David Pratt-2
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In a recent message, Ian J Maude <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>I have the XV144 on my K2 and I wondered how it connects to the K3?
>Obviously it uses the transverter interface but on the K2 it uses the
>serial interface.  How does that work on the K3 with the XV3 interface?

Ian (and others) -
I enquired about this to Elecraft Support last week and received a very
prompt reply from Gary. I hope Gary won't mind if I quote his reply for
the benefit of others wishing to hook up their XV144, etc......
---------------------------8<-----------------------------------------
You need to use the DE-15 AUX I/O connector to interface with the XV144.
The auxbus line is needed for addressing and control of the transverter
(using its ADR setting and the XV's DIP switches). And the KEYOUT-LP
line is needed to place the XV into transmit mode, in the same way as
the 8R line does for the K2. So you'll need to make a cable like this:


XV DB9      K3 DB15

Pin            Pin

1 ground        5
6 auxbus        2
8 XVTR ON       7
9 PTT          10

Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
--------------------------8<-------------------------------------------

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Re: Transverting

Ian Maude
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Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Ian,
>
> The transverters cannot be directly connected to the K3 like they can
> on the K2.  There are signals in the K3 ACC connector that can be used
> if you want to be creative, but without that, the K3 can be connected
> to the transverters like a non-Elecraft transceiver.
Then what is the point of the K3 transverter interface?  Does it simply
provide a low level output?
>
> By the way (and very important) the signals from the K2 to the
> transverter are *NOT* RS-232.  Look at the connector label on the K2 -
> it says "AUX I/O".  Just because it is a DE-9 connector and does
> contain 2 signal lines (TXD and RXD) that can connect to a computer
> serial port does not make it an RS-232 connector - the signals that go
> to the transverter are unique K2 internal signals.
I fully understand this Don.  That is the reason I stated serial and not
RS232.  Perhaps I could have been more pedantic :-)

73 Ian

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Re: Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

M0XDF
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Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the UK -
preferably with a metal shell?
I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally 25 pin)
format and obviously want to avoid those.
Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!


On 28/1/08 07:38, "David Pratt" <[hidden email]> sent:

> Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
> --------------------------8<-------------------------------------------

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Re: Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

Tom Hoedjes
Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
This is the 3 row connector like the "old" VGA connector

If you cant find a supplier in the UK
Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
www.reichelt.de


73 de Tom

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:47 +0000
> Von: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
> An: Crafters <[hidden email]>
> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

> Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the UK -
> preferably with a metal shell?
> I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally 25 pin)
> format and obviously want to avoid those.
> Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!
>
>
> On 28/1/08 07:38, "David Pratt" <[hidden email]> sent:
>
> > Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
> > --------------------------8<-------------------------------------------
>
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Re: Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

David Pratt-2
In the UK, Maplin cat no. JW77J 15-way D Plug in 9-way shell and JB68Y
9-way metalised hood.

73

David G4DMP

In a recent message, Tom <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
>This is the 3 row connector like the "old" VGA connector
>
>-------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the UK -
>> preferably with a metal shell?
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Re: Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

Mike Harris-9
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G'day,

Didn't someone previously mention the idea of obtaining a VGA cable and
cutting one end off.  That way it's already nicely terminated at the K3
end and ready for breakout at the other.

Watching those May dates, K3 ordered on the 21st.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?


| Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
| This is the 3 row connector like the "old" VGA connector
|
| If you cant find a supplier in the UK
| Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
| www.reichelt.de
|
|
| 73 de Tom
|
| -------- Original-Nachricht --------
| > Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:47 +0000
| > Von: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
| > An: Crafters <[hidden email]>
| > Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?
|
| > Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the
UK -
| > preferably with a metal shell?
| > I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally 25
pin)
| > format and obviously want to avoid those.
| > Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!
| >
| >
| > On 28/1/08 07:38, "David Pratt" <[hidden email]> sent:
| >
| > > Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
| >
 > --------------------------8<-------------------------------------------
| >
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Re: Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

M0XDF
I need to make an adapter up, to allow me to connect my DigiKeyer and the XV
to the ACC connector, but it might do for one end - IF I can find an old
cable - being a Mac man, not many VGA cables at this QTH
Thanks for the reminder.
73 de M0XDF / K3 #174, HexKey #375

On 28/1/08 12:14, "Mike Harris" <[hidden email]> sent:

> G'day,
>
> Didn't someone previously mention the idea of obtaining a VGA cable and
> cutting one end off.  That way it's already nicely terminated at the K3
> end and ready for breakout at the other.
>
> Watching those May dates, K3 ordered on the 21st.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom" <[hidden email]>
> To: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>;
> <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?
>
>
> | Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
> | This is the 3 row connector like the "old" VGA connector
> |
> | If you cant find a supplier in the UK
> | Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
> | www.reichelt.de
> |
> |
> | 73 de Tom
> |
> | -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> | > Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:47 +0000
> | > Von: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
> | > An: Crafters <[hidden email]>
> | > Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?
> |
> | > Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the
> UK -
> | > preferably with a metal shell?
> | > I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally 25
> pin)
> | > format and obviously want to avoid those.
> | > Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!
> | >
> | >
> | > On 28/1/08 07:38, "David Pratt" <[hidden email]> sent:
> | >
> | > > Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
> | >
>> --------------------------8<-------------------------------------------
> | >
> | > --
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> | >
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Re: Transverting

Don Wilhelm-4
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Ian,

The K3 transverter interface provides a low level output along with a
dedicated RX input for the transverters.

73,
Don W3FPR


Ian J Maude wrote:
> Then what is the point of the K3 transverter interface?  Does it
> simply provide a low level output?
>
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Re: Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

Bob Nielsen-2
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You need to look for DE15, not DB15.  The letter after "D" designates  
the shell size, so DB would be the wider type (25-pin type normally  
used for parallel ports on PCs).   The type used for VGA is DE15 (15  
pins in the same shell size as the DE9 used for serial ports).

73, Bob N7XY

On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:33 AM, Tom wrote:

> Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
> This is the 3 row connector like the "old" VGA connector
>
> If you cant find a supplier in the UK
> Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
> www.reichelt.de
>
>
> 73 de Tom
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:47 +0000
>> Von: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
>> An: Crafters <[hidden email]>
>> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?
>
>> Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the  
>> UK -
>> preferably with a metal shell?
>> I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally  
>> 25 pin)
>> format and obviously want to avoid those.
>> Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!
>>
>>
>> On 28/1/08 07:38, "David Pratt" <[hidden email]> sent:
>>
>>> Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
>>> --------------------------8<----------------------------------------
>>> ---
>>
>> --
>> They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918)
>>
>>
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Re: Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?

Andrew Faber
Bob,
Also, bear in mind that some cables that are billed as VGA monitor cables
actually only use 13 pins, not all 15.  In fact, they have Pin 9 missing,
which is one of the pins used for the Band Data Output signals.  One of the
pins in the third row (i.e., 11 to 15) is also missing.  So be sure that you
get a cable that actually has all 15 pins in the jack.
  I was quite surprised to note this when I was in a computer store looking
for cables to cut up to use to connect my K3 to a Top-Ten Yaesu band
decoder.
 73, andy, ae6y
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Nielsen" <[hidden email]>
To: "elecraft List" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?


You need to look for DE15, not DB15.  The letter after "D" designates
the shell size, so DB would be the wider type (25-pin type normally
used for parallel ports on PCs).   The type used for VGA is DE15 (15
pins in the same shell size as the DE9 used for serial ports).

73, Bob N7XY

On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:33 AM, Tom wrote:

> Look for a DB 15 HD (from High Density)
> This is the 3 row connector like the "old" VGA connector
>
> If you cant find a supplier in the UK
> Firma Reichelt in Germany sells them for 25 cent each
> www.reichelt.de
>
>
> 73 de Tom
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:30:47 +0000
>> Von: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
>> An: Crafters <[hidden email]>
>> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Transverting - DB15 UK supplier?
>
>> Does anyone have a source and part number of the equivalent in the  UK -
>> preferably with a metal shell?
>> I can't remember if 15's are available in the much wider (normally  25
>> pin)
>> format and obviously want to avoid those.
>> Pretty sure RS stock them, but finding the right one!
>>
>>
>> On 28/1/08 07:38, "David Pratt" <[hidden email]> sent:
>>
>>> Radio Shack stocks DB15 male connectors. I got one there recently.
>>> --------------------------8<----------------------------------------
>>> ---
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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RE: Transverting - DB15 UK supplier? - A Connector Caution

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