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Edward A. Dauer
One anecdote before this O.T. thread is terminated . . .

My “shack” is in a second home in the Colorado mountains, where none of these services work.  Street addresses exist but they are useless; a driver unfamiliar with the local area would have to use either county plat maps or GPS coordinates, which of course no shipper would provide.  The dirt road leading to the house isn’t wide enough for a large truck, and climbing up our hill requires a good four-wheeler during much of the year.  When we first built the place the US Post Office would not deliver mail to addresses in our area, so for a while I rented one of the few boxes available at the local Post Office. After a year or two they unilaterally cancelled the rental, telling me that I didn’t get enough mail to justify having a box there.  I solved the problem by having everything sent to my Denver address, but I found it ironic.  In Denver I am flooded with junk mail every day, often more than can be smushed into the outside box on our house.  In the country (an unincorporated area called Florissant) I don’t get enough mail to deserve a box at the P.O.

Ted, KN1CBR

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Two things I will add also,

After having the wild ones run over my mail box at the bottom of the hill, we went to a satellite mail box a short distance away, problem solved, well sort of.  Along comes SUREpost or equivalent.  The seller says it will go ground, so I give them the street address, then they ship it, YEP drop off at the PO who can't deliver it.

So we started to put both the street address and the PO Box number on the info, problem solved, well sort of, YEP you guessed it the leave off the PO Box info,  Can't win.

 Final tally, about 75% of the deliveries get it right, 25% get lost, delayed or returned to shipper. 

Mel, K6KBE


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One anecdote before this O.T. thread is terminated . . .

My “shack” is in a second home in the Colorado mountains, where none of these services work.  Street addresses exist but they are useless; a driver unfamiliar with the local area would have to use either county plat maps or GPS coordinates, which of course no shipper would provide.  The dirt road leading to the house isn’t wide enough for a large truck, and climbing up our hill requires a good four-wheeler during much of the year.  When we first built the place the US Post Office would not deliver mail to addresses in our area, so for a while I rented one of the few boxes available at the local Post Office. After a year or two they unilaterally cancelled the rental, telling me that I didn’t get enough mail to justify having a box there.  I solved the problem by having everything sent to my Denver address, but I found it ironic.  In Denver I am flooded with junk mail every day, often more than can be smushed into the outside box on our house.  In the country (an unincorporated area called Florissant) I don’t get enough mail to deserve a box at the P.O.

Ted, KN1CBR

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Edward A. Dauer
So maybe Elecraft could develop a drone service that flies to its customers’ GPS locations from some regional distribution hub and gently deposits the goodies on our porch . . .

Ted, KN1CBR


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Two things I will add also,

After having the wild ones run over my mail box at the bottom of the hill, we went to a satellite mail box a short distance away, problem solved, well sort of.  Along comes SUREpost or equivalent.  The seller says it will go ground, so I give them the street address, then they ship it, YEP drop off at the PO who can't deliver it.

So we started to put both the street address and the PO Box number on the info, problem solved, well sort of, YEP you guessed it the leave off the PO Box info,  Can't win.

Final tally, about 75% of the deliveries get it right, 25% get lost, delayed or returned to shipper.

Mel, K6KBE

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One anecdote before this O.T. thread is terminated . . .

My “shack” is in a second home in the Colorado mountains, where none of these services work.  Street addresses exist but they are useless; a driver unfamiliar with the local area would have to use either county plat maps or GPS coordinates, which of course no shipper would provide.  The dirt road leading to the house isn’t wide enough for a large truck, and climbing up our hill requires a good four-wheeler during much of the year.  When we first built the place the US Post Office would not deliver mail to addresses in our area, so for a while I rented one of the few boxes available at the local Post Office. After a year or two they unilaterally cancelled the rental, telling me that I didn’t get enough mail to justify having a box there.  I solved the problem by having everything sent to my Denver address, but I found it ironic.  In Denver I am flooded with junk mail every day, often more than can be smushed into the outside box on our house.  In the country (an unincorporated area called Florissant) I don’t get enough mail to deserve a box at the P.O.

Ted, KN1CBR

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Rural here too and the biggest issue for a long time was that the UPS guy
would just throw boxes over the fence even though he could easily drive in.
Not too hard on the books I order, but tough on radio stuff and other
electronics. Fedex always knocks on the door.

Took a few calls but there's a new route driver for UPS and all seems okay
now, though the UPS stuff does occasionally go to the  PO to deliver and
with the satellite mailbox setup here, that means a trip into town if the
box is too big to fit in the small satellite box container.

Mike, k5wmg


On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Two things I will add also,
>
> After having the wild ones run over my mail box at the bottom of the hill,
> we went to a satellite mail box a short distance away, problem solved, well
> sort of.  Along comes SUREpost or equivalent.  The seller says it will go
> ground, so I give them the street address, then they ship it, YEP drop off
> at the PO who can't deliver it.
>
> So we started to put both the street address and the PO Box number on the
> info, problem solved, well sort of, YEP you guessed it the leave off the PO
> Box info,  Can't win.
>
>  Final tally, about 75% of the deliveries get it right, 25% get lost,
> delayed or returned to shipper.
>
> Mel, K6KBE
>
>
>       From: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]>
>  To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:38 AM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] USPS, UPS, FedEx and related woes
>
> One anecdote before this O.T. thread is terminated . . .
>
> My “shack” is in a second home in the Colorado mountains, where none of
> these services work.  Street addresses exist but they are useless; a driver
> unfamiliar with the local area would have to use either county plat maps or
> GPS coordinates, which of course no shipper would provide.  The dirt road
> leading to the house isn’t wide enough for a large truck, and climbing up
> our hill requires a good four-wheeler during much of the year.  When we
> first built the place the US Post Office would not deliver mail to
> addresses in our area, so for a while I rented one of the few boxes
> available at the local Post Office. After a year or two they unilaterally
> cancelled the rental, telling me that I didn’t get enough mail to justify
> having a box there.  I solved the problem by having everything sent to my
> Denver address, but I found it ironic.  In Denver I am flooded with junk
> mail every day, often more than can be smushed into the outside box on our
> house.  In the country (an unincorporated area called Florissant) I don’t
> get enough mail to deserve a box at the P.O.
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
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Rick WA6NHC-2
I use a mail drop, like the UPS Store.  That way when I travel, I can
ship me the stuff I don't want to haul around, it's secure and doesn't
pile up in a mailbox or porch.  I collect it when I get back or a couple
times a week when I go to town anyway.  Simple works.

It's worth the annual expense.

Rick NHC


On 4/27/2017 9:09 AM, Michael Goins wrote:

> Rural here too and the biggest issue for a long time was that the UPS guy
> would just throw boxes over the fence even though he could easily drive in.
> Not too hard on the books I order, but tough on radio stuff and other
> electronics. Fedex always knocks on the door.
>
> Took a few calls but there's a new route driver for UPS and all seems okay
> now, though the UPS stuff does occasionally go to the  PO to deliver and
> with the satellite mailbox setup here, that means a trip into town if the
> box is too big to fit in the small satellite box container.
>
> Mike, k5wmg
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Two things I will add also,
>>
>> After having the wild ones run over my mail box at the bottom of the hill,
>> we went to a satellite mail box a short distance away, problem solved, well
>> sort of.  Along comes SUREpost or equivalent.  The seller says it will go
>> ground, so I give them the street address, then they ship it, YEP drop off
>> at the PO who can't deliver it.
>>
>> So we started to put both the street address and the PO Box number on the
>> info, problem solved, well sort of, YEP you guessed it the leave off the PO
>> Box info,  Can't win.
>>
>>   Final tally, about 75% of the deliveries get it right, 25% get lost,
>> delayed or returned to shipper.
>>
>> Mel, K6KBE
>>
>>
>>        From: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]>
>>   To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>>   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:38 AM
>>   Subject: [Elecraft] USPS, UPS, FedEx and related woes
>>
>> One anecdote before this O.T. thread is terminated . . .
>>
>> My “shack” is in a second home in the Colorado mountains, where none of
>> these services work.  Street addresses exist but they are useless; a driver
>> unfamiliar with the local area would have to use either county plat maps or
>> GPS coordinates, which of course no shipper would provide.  The dirt road
>> leading to the house isn’t wide enough for a large truck, and climbing up
>> our hill requires a good four-wheeler during much of the year.  When we
>> first built the place the US Post Office would not deliver mail to
>> addresses in our area, so for a while I rented one of the few boxes
>> available at the local Post Office. After a year or two they unilaterally
>> cancelled the rental, telling me that I didn’t get enough mail to justify
>> having a box there.  I solved the problem by having everything sent to my
>> Denver address, but I found it ironic.  In Denver I am flooded with junk
>> mail every day, often more than can be smushed into the outside box on our
>> house.  In the country (an unincorporated area called Florissant) I don’t
>> get enough mail to deserve a box at the P.O.
>>
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>
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On 4/27/2017 8:53 AM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote:

> Final tally, about 75% of the deliveries get it right, 25% get lost, delayed or returned to shipper.  

Our building is on a street different from the street in the "street
address" and not visible from it.  Fortunately the courier service
drivers know where the building is and where access to our unit is
located.  Any USPS delivery is to the "street box" on the "named street"
and unless we check it daily - which is a pain - we don't know if
anything has arrived that cannot be tracked online.

Recently we had a contract-carrier delivery of a very expensive and
bulky item, and in the delivery instructions we specified "call for
directions".  It worked like a charm, and the driver even stuck around
while we unpacked the box and checked for damage, of which there was none.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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