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Dan Atchison

Unusual Phenomenon OT

I am posting this observation here only because I am using a K3. I do
not have any clue what may have caused this phenomenon and I'd like
someone to give me a rational explanation other than magic!

Just a few minutes ago, I was calling HK0NA on 12M SSB. I was operating
split (10 kHz) according to both the rig and the P3. When I un-keyed
the radio, I heard RX, of course, BUT ALSO the last several characters
of my callsign. In other words, I heard "3 November delta." Yes, I was
unkeyed. There was a delay, like an LDE.

I thought that was strange, of course, but them someone came on
frequency and said, "November Delta he's operating split." I was
operating split! However, I did hit the split button again (with no
changes on the rig's display or the P3, and my delayed "echo" subsided
and I worked the station. There was no operator error even though many
of you are currently shaking your heads! IS IT POSSIBLE that the rig
was actually transmitting on the VFO A freq instead of the VFO B freq
regardless of the indications on the rig and P3?

What is going on? This is, indeed, very strange. I am also using a
KPA500 for what it's worth.

Dan -- N3ND
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Guy, K2AV

Re: Unusual Phenomenon OT

LDE's do not change frequency except in very small (a few Hz). Someone was
retransmitting part of your call on frequency. Easy to do that. But he
mis-timed it. You weren't supposed to hear it. Just more of the nasty
behavior you sometimes see these days. 73, Guy

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Dan Atchison <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I am posting this observation here only because I am using a K3. I do
> not have any clue what may have caused this phenomenon and I'd like
> someone to give me a rational explanation other than magic!
>
> Just a few minutes ago, I was calling HK0NA on 12M SSB. I was operating
> split (10 kHz) according to both the rig and the P3. When I un-keyed
> the radio, I heard RX, of course, BUT ALSO the last several characters
> of my callsign. In other words, I heard "3 November delta." Yes, I was
> unkeyed. There was a delay, like an LDE.
>
> I thought that was strange, of course, but them someone came on
> frequency and said, "November Delta he's operating split." I was
> operating split! However, I did hit the split button again (with no
> changes on the rig's display or the P3, and my delayed "echo" subsided
> and I worked the station. There was no operator error even though many
> of you are currently shaking your heads! IS IT POSSIBLE that the rig
> was actually transmitting on the VFO A freq instead of the VFO B freq
> regardless of the indications on the rig and P3?
>
> What is going on? This is, indeed, very strange. I am also using a
> KPA500 for what it's worth.
>
> Dan -- N3ND
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Matthew Pitts

Re: Unusual Phenomenon OT

I heard this sort of thing on Saturday; it's sad that some people will try to ruin events like this for other people.

Matthew Pitts
N8OHU

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-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]>
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:38:25
To: Dan Atchison<[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Unusual Phenomenon OT

LDE's do not change frequency except in very small (a few Hz). Someone was
retransmitting part of your call on frequency. Easy to do that. But he
mis-timed it. You weren't supposed to hear it. Just more of the nasty
behavior you sometimes see these days. 73, Guy

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Dan Atchison <[hidden email]> wrote:

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David Gilbert

Re: Unusual Phenomenon OT

In reply to this post by Guy, K2AV

Yup. It would be easy to do, causes more interference than a carrier
(which can be auto-notched out), and creates additional QRM when others
on frequency call you out for being a LID.

Dave AB7E

On 1/23/2012 10:38 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

> LDE's do not change frequency except in very small (a few Hz). Someone was
> retransmitting part of your call on frequency. Easy to do that. But he
> mis-timed it. You weren't supposed to hear it. Just more of the nasty
> behavior you sometimes see these days. 73, Guy
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Dan Atchison<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I am posting this observation here only because I am using a K3. I do
>> not have any clue what may have caused this phenomenon and I'd like
>> someone to give me a rational explanation other than magic!
>>
>> Just a few minutes ago, I was calling HK0NA on 12M SSB. I was operating
>> split (10 kHz) according to both the rig and the P3. When I un-keyed
>> the radio, I heard RX, of course, BUT ALSO the last several characters
>> of my callsign. In other words, I heard "3 November delta." Yes, I was
>> unkeyed. There was a delay, like an LDE.
>>
>> I thought that was strange, of course, but them someone came on
>> frequency and said, "November Delta he's operating split." I was
>> operating split! However, I did hit the split button again (with no
>> changes on the rig's display or the P3, and my delayed "echo" subsided
>> and I worked the station. There was no operator error even though many
>> of you are currently shaking your heads! IS IT POSSIBLE that the rig
>> was actually transmitting on the VFO A freq instead of the VFO B freq
>> regardless of the indications on the rig and P3?
>>
>> What is going on? This is, indeed, very strange. I am also using a
>> KPA500 for what it's worth.
>>
>> Dan -- N3ND
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Guy, K2AV

Re: Unusual Phenomenon OT

In reply to this post by Guy, K2AV

I forgot to add one thing, that Dan is a perfect gentleman and a really
good operator. I know personally he would NEVER do something like that
intentionally. His worry that he may somehow have unintentionally done so
is the reason for his posting. Those of us who know you, Dan, know exactly
what was going on and how transparent that was. 73, Guy.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]>wrote:

> LDE's do not change frequency except in very small (a few Hz). Someone
> was retransmitting part of your call on frequency. Easy to do that. But he
> mis-timed it. You weren't supposed to hear it. Just more of the nasty
> behavior you sometimes see these days. 73, Guy
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Dan Atchison <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I am posting this observation here only because I am using a K3. I do
>> not have any clue what may have caused this phenomenon and I'd like
>> someone to give me a rational explanation other than magic!
>>
>> Just a few minutes ago, I was calling HK0NA on 12M SSB. I was operating
>> split (10 kHz) according to both the rig and the P3. When I un-keyed
>> the radio, I heard RX, of course, BUT ALSO the last several characters
>> of my callsign. In other words, I heard "3 November delta." Yes, I was
>> unkeyed. There was a delay, like an LDE.
>>
>> I thought that was strange, of course, but them someone came on
>> frequency and said, "November Delta he's operating split." I was
>> operating split! However, I did hit the split button again (with no
>> changes on the rig's display or the P3, and my delayed "echo" subsided
>> and I worked the station. There was no operator error even though many
>> of you are currently shaking your heads! IS IT POSSIBLE that the rig
>> was actually transmitting on the VFO A freq instead of the VFO B freq
>> regardless of the indications on the rig and P3?
>>
>> What is going on? This is, indeed, very strange. I am also using a
>> KPA500 for what it's worth.
>>
>> Dan -- N3ND
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