Using Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with KX3
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I recently tried to use a Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with my KX3. Also, with the Heil adapter cable AD-1-KX3. Re adjusted the Mic Bias (off) and Mic Btn (off). Had very poor results. Could not get the "Echo" out and a basic noise. Tested extensively using another KX3 and a K3 as the test receiver. We truly went thru a series of test changing CMP, and EQ. Yes we even cut the MON off. Could not get the problems corrected with settings. Sent it back to Heil and they tested it and said it was OK. Being the good company that they are, they sent me a new system. It did the same thing. So, I gave up and took it back to HRO. They refunded me with no problem. I then ordered a Heil "ProSet-ic" set up for the KX3 from Elecraft. So far it seems to work fine. I don't know what the problem is that the Pro-7 (HC-7) wouldn't work with the KX3, but there is something that is not compatible with the HC-7 element. I would have liked to have had a Pro-7 rather than the ProSet, but
I couldn't get to work. The Heil AD-1-KX3 cable is what you need to adapt the headset to the radio with a PL-59 (1/4")connection for a PTT switch (foot,hand etc). also has the TRR plug for the Mic connection. David Wall, NA4AE ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Using Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with KX3
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I had a similar problem with my K3, using RemoteRig. It was solved by changing to the "ic" element at no charge from Heil. This was a couple years ago, so I don't remember how I figured it out, but I do recall that the documentation was weak in this area.
73, Brian W3BW Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A. Sent from my iPad Air 2 > On Apr 28, 2017, at 08:30, David Wall-NA4AE <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I recently tried to use a Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with my KX3. Also, with the Heil adapter cable AD-1-KX3. Re adjusted the Mic Bias (off) and Mic Btn (off). Had very poor results. Could not get the "Echo" out and a basic noise. Tested extensively using another KX3 and a K3 as the test receiver. We truly went thru a series of test changing CMP, and EQ. Yes we even cut the MON off. Could not get the problems corrected with settings. Sent it back to Heil and they tested it and said it was OK. Being the good company that they are, they sent me a new system. It did the same thing. So, I gave up and took it back to HRO. They refunded me with no problem. I then ordered a Heil "ProSet-ic" set up for the KX3 from Elecraft. So far it seems to work fine. I don't know what the problem is that the Pro-7 (HC-7) wouldn't work with the KX3, but there is something that is not compatible with the HC-7 element. I would have liked to have had a Pro-7 rather than the ProSet, but > I couldn't get to work. The Heil AD-1-KX3 cable is what you need to adapt the headset to the radio with a PL-59 (1/4")connection for a PTT switch (foot,hand etc). also has the TRR plug for the Mic connection. > David Wall, NA4AE > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Using Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with KX3
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David,
The Heil HC-7 mic element has a very low output level. Several others have had problems with it. To make matters worse, Heil recommends that the K3 microphone gain range should be set to Low, when in fact it needs to be set to the High Gain range. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/28/2017 8:30 AM, David Wall-NA4AE wrote: > I recently tried to use a Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with my KX3. Also, with the Heil adapter cable AD-1-KX3. Re adjusted the Mic Bias (off) and Mic Btn (off). Had very poor results. Could not get the "Echo" out and a basic noise. Tested extensively using another KX3 and a K3 as the test receiver. We truly went thru a series of test changing CMP, and EQ. Yes we even cut the MON off. Could not get the problems corrected with settings. Sent it back to Heil and they tested it and said it was OK. Being the good company that they are, they sent me a new system. It did the same thing. So, I gave up and took it back to HRO. They refunded me with no problem. I then ordered a Heil "ProSet-ic" set up for the KX3 from Elecraft. So far it seems to work fine. I don't know what the problem is that the Pro-7 (HC-7) wouldn't work with the KX3, but there is something that is not compatible with the HC-7 element. I would have liked to have had a Pro-7 rather than the ProSet, b ut > I couldn't get to work. The Heil AD-1-KX3 cable is what you need to adapt the headset to the radio with a PL-59 (1/4")connection for a PTT switch (foot,hand etc). also has the TRR plug for the Mic connection. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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After speaking to Bob Heil, he recommends the Pro 7 iC. Is it possible that all of the bad experiences described here were with the PRO 7 with the hC7 Dynamic element ? Just thinking folks had the wrong mic element...
-Kevin (KK4YEL) No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ! > On Apr 28, 2017, at 09:27, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > David, > > The Heil HC-7 mic element has a very low output level. Several others have had problems with it. To make matters worse, Heil recommends that the K3 microphone gain range should be set to Low, when in fact it needs to be set to the High Gain range. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 4/28/2017 8:30 AM, David Wall-NA4AE wrote: >> I recently tried to use a Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with my KX3. Also, with the Heil adapter cable AD-1-KX3. Re adjusted the Mic Bias (off) and Mic Btn (off). Had very poor results. Could not get the "Echo" out and a basic noise. Tested extensively using another KX3 and a K3 as the test receiver. We truly went thru a series of test changing CMP, and EQ. Yes we even cut the MON off. Could not get the problems corrected with settings. Sent it back to Heil and they tested it and said it was OK. Being the good company that they are, they sent me a new system. It did the same thing. So, I gave up and took it back to HRO. They refunded me with no problem. I then ordered a Heil "ProSet-ic" set up for the KX3 from Elecraft. So far it seems to work fine. I don't know what the problem is that the Pro-7 (HC-7) wouldn't work with the KX3, but there is something that is not compatible with the HC-7 element. I would have liked to have had a Pro-7 rather than the ProSet, b > ut >> I couldn't get to work. The Heil AD-1-KX3 cable is what you need to adapt the headset to the radio with a PL-59 (1/4")connection for a PTT switch (foot,hand etc). also has the TRR plug for the Mic connection. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Using Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with KX3
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blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } I use the Pro 7 with my KX3 at home. I ordered it with the iC element as I remember somewhere reading that it was necessary for use with the KX3. No problems whatsoever. A very comfortable headset. The YL likes it too as she gets peace and quiet! 8-)
73,DavidAL5M Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Sunday, April 30, 2017, 06:28, kevino z <[hidden email]> wrote: After speaking to Bob Heil, he recommends the Pro 7 iC. Is it possible that all of the bad experiences described here were with the PRO 7 with the hC7 Dynamic element ? Just thinking folks had the wrong mic element... -Kevin (KK4YEL) No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ! > On Apr 28, 2017, at 09:27, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > David, > > The Heil HC-7 mic element has a very low output level. Several others have had problems with it. To make matters worse, Heil recommends that the K3 microphone gain range should be set to Low, when in fact it needs to be set to the High Gain range. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 4/28/2017 8:30 AM, David Wall-NA4AE wrote: >> I recently tried to use a Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with my KX3. Also, with the Heil adapter cable AD-1-KX3. Re adjusted the Mic Bias (off) and Mic Btn (off). Had very poor results. Could not get the "Echo" out and a basic noise. Tested extensively using another KX3 and a K3 as the test receiver. We truly went thru a series of test changing CMP, and EQ. Yes we even cut the MON off. Could not get the problems corrected with settings. Sent it back to Heil and they tested it and said it was OK. Being the good company that they are, they sent me a new system. It did the same thing. So, I gave up and took it back to HRO. They refunded me with no problem. I then ordered a Heil "ProSet-ic" set up for the KX3 from Elecraft. So far it seems to work fine. I don't know what the problem is that the Pro-7 (HC-7) wouldn't work with the KX3, but there is something that is not compatible with the HC-7 element. I would have liked to have had a Pro-7 rather than the ProSet, b > ut >> I couldn't get to work. The Heil AD-1-KX3 cable is what you need to adapt the headset to the radio with a PL-59 (1/4")connection for a PTT switch (foot,hand etc). also has the TRR plug for the Mic connection. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Using Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with KX3
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I have been using the Pro 7 with the HC-7 on my K3s and KX3 since the Pro 7
first became available. I have had no problems using the recommended settings and get great audio reports. I would first check for problem(s) in the cable or adapter being used. zeke ab8ou On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:28 AM, kevino z <[hidden email]> wrote: > After speaking to Bob Heil, he recommends the Pro 7 iC. Is it possible > that all of the bad experiences described here were with the PRO 7 with the > hC7 Dynamic element ? Just thinking folks had the wrong mic element... > > -Kevin (KK4YEL) > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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