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W0WFH Bill

Using the K3 remote

Hello all; I want to remote my K3. I have the current version of HRD software.

But I don't know where to go from here.. Yes I have High speed internet. (Hughes Net)

Please respond to me off forum. [hidden email]

This is a project I would like to get going next year.

Thank you, Bill, W0WFH
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David Pratt

Re: Using the K3 remote

On 18 Dec 2013 06:40, W0WFH Bill <[hidden email]> wrote
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> Please respond to me off forum. [hidden email]
>

Please reply on here; I would be interested too.

73 de David G4DMP

David Pratt
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Rick WA6NHC

Re: Using the K3 remote

I'm cheap. I don't throw things away until they are beyond any reasonable
use plus I like toys. So here is how I run my K3 remotely:

I have an old laptop for the shack computer. It runs HRD, has a four port
USB-Serial cable and wifi to the home LAN. It takes only a little power,
doesn't cost much to run (but I'll have to upgrade it to Win7 soon).

Via HRD, I have full control of the K3 (the next version of HRD will even
improve this). By using a SignaLink USB for radio audio, I don't ever worry
about OS noises being transmitted. SLUSB=radio, OS=laptop speakers

I can run the basic K3 via HRD at home or while away (remote); even from
another computer in the house. BO-ring since I have the KPA500 and KAT500
as well. So;

I use TeamViewer (free) to remotely control my shack laptop from another
computer, laptop, iphone or ipad. This allows me to also run the utility
programs for the KPA500/KAT500 so I can switch antennas, manage the amp
(on/off, watch temps, SWR etc) and check that the KAT500 tuning is valid
(remember the 4 port serial cable?). The second K3 antenna port is ALWAYS
connected to a dummy load in case I goof; the KAT500 is my antenna switch.

I use Skype (two accounts) when running remotely and have set it to treat
the SLUSB as its main audio device EXCEPT for anything that shouldn't go
there (like ring tones, dialing noises etc.). Just use it for the mike and
speaker, no OS.

Bonus: I use the web cam on Skype video so I can 'see' the P3 panadapter
display (or my weather station) remotely. It's possible to make changes to
the P3 via macros but I don't bother.

You may wonder about shack access security; by using TeamViewer to access my
shack laptop (shack-top?) I can leave Skype NOT in autoanswer mode and
answer my own calls, remotely. All other inbound calls are ignored (no
auto-answer). TeamViewer and HRD are fairly secure and I've had no issues.

In the event that there is a power failure, someone has to have physical
access to the station to turn the K3 power back on. I'm working on this
(use an alarm or tickle the ACC line for now). That someone also makes a
pass through the house to water plants, grab the papers etc.

I don't do CW ragchew remotely as Internet latency can be an issue but since
most of my CW Q's are call:report TU:73 and those are recorded in memories,
there is no reason I can't DX on CW while away. I've done digital modes
remotely but mostly I just use the remote ability to chat with the local
folks, while I'm away. They can't tell if I'm local or gone unless there is
wimpy internet (or d-d-d-d-igital-l-l-l-l artifacts) at my remote location.
I don't use VOX when the internet bandwidth is thin.

So I can be having a lazy morning in bed, be on a beach, in a forest or a
desert watching the sun rise having my morning coffee while chatting with
the folks on the morning net(s) or 6M repeater via a Bluetooth headset to my
iPhone (even on 4G) or laptop (or use regular headsets into the remote
laptop).

So far, I've operated remotely from Hawaii, Alaska, the Yukon, BC, most of
the Western States and all over CA. Yah, the folks at home get jealous;
that's just icing on my travel cake. ;o)

While there are other ways to go remote, most of this was 'free' (since I
owned it or it WAS free software) and it is pretty darned cool stuff;
sometimes being a nerd is pretty awesome.

Merry Christmas,
Rick wa6nhc

-----Original Message-----
From: David Pratt; W0WFH Bill

On 18 Dec 2013 06:40, W0WFH Bill <[hidden email]> wrote
>
> Please respond to me off forum. [hidden email]
>

Please reply on here; I would be interested too.

73 de David G4DMP

David Pratt

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Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)-2

Re: Using the K3 remote

Me too Rick!
Have used RC CW for 7 years with a Winkeyer as the only "investment"
But as you say it: there are many ways to do RC

I have a few additions though:
1) I operate exclusively CW (mostly ragchew type) and use a Winkeyer and WKDemo software. Works great - normally no latency issue at all (NB: people often confuse IP latency with the latency coming from operating through a CW buffer), however the Winkeyer operates thru a short buffer allowing fast BK-type CW if u like.
2) I use IP-Sound (instead of Skype). It has a much better sound quality for CW but may not offer much advantage for SSB. Works through VPN, I use Hamachi.
3) Also sometimes I use K3iNetwork (and K3iDitDah) for full RC of the K3 from an iPhone or iPad - when operating this way I use Skype as well. It's cool running CW QSOs from iPhone!
4) Switching ON/OFF via GSM/SMS - completely independent of the internet.

Using Teamviewer makes it easy to swap between using HRD/laptop or K3iNetwork/iPad/iPhone - you can even do it on-the-fly during a QSO

73 de OZ4UN
Poul-Erik

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] På vegne af Rick Bates
Sendt: 18. december 2013 10:59
Til: 'David Pratt'; 'W0WFH Bill'
Cc: 'elecraft forum'
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Using the K3 remote

I'm cheap. I don't throw things away until they are beyond any reasonable use plus I like toys. So here is how I run my K3 remotely:

I have an old laptop for the shack computer. It runs HRD, has a four port USB-Serial cable and wifi to the home LAN. It takes only a little power, doesn't cost much to run (but I'll have to upgrade it to Win7 soon).

Via HRD, I have full control of the K3 (the next version of HRD will even improve this). By using a SignaLink USB for radio audio, I don't ever worry about OS noises being transmitted. SLUSB=radio, OS=laptop speakers

I can run the basic K3 via HRD at home or while away (remote); even from another computer in the house. BO-ring since I have the KPA500 and KAT500 as well. So;

I use TeamViewer (free) to remotely control my shack laptop from another computer, laptop, iphone or ipad. This allows me to also run the utility programs for the KPA500/KAT500 so I can switch antennas, manage the amp (on/off, watch temps, SWR etc) and check that the KAT500 tuning is valid (remember the 4 port serial cable?). The second K3 antenna port is ALWAYS connected to a dummy load in case I goof; the KAT500 is my antenna switch.

I use Skype (two accounts) when running remotely and have set it to treat the SLUSB as its main audio device EXCEPT for anything that shouldn't go there (like ring tones, dialing noises etc.). Just use it for the mike and speaker, no OS.

Bonus: I use the web cam on Skype video so I can 'see' the P3 panadapter display (or my weather station) remotely. It's possible to make changes to the P3 via macros but I don't bother.

You may wonder about shack access security; by using TeamViewer to access my shack laptop (shack-top?) I can leave Skype NOT in autoanswer mode and answer my own calls, remotely. All other inbound calls are ignored (no auto-answer). TeamViewer and HRD are fairly secure and I've had no issues.

In the event that there is a power failure, someone has to have physical access to the station to turn the K3 power back on. I'm working on this (use an alarm or tickle the ACC line for now). That someone also makes a pass through the house to water plants, grab the papers etc.

I don't do CW ragchew remotely as Internet latency can be an issue but since most of my CW Q's are call:report TU:73 and those are recorded in memories, there is no reason I can't DX on CW while away. I've done digital modes remotely but mostly I just use the remote ability to chat with the local folks, while I'm away. They can't tell if I'm local or gone unless there is wimpy internet (or d-d-d-d-igital-l-l-l-l artifacts) at my remote location.
I don't use VOX when the internet bandwidth is thin.

So I can be having a lazy morning in bed, be on a beach, in a forest or a desert watching the sun rise having my morning coffee while chatting with the folks on the morning net(s) or 6M repeater via a Bluetooth headset to my iPhone (even on 4G) or laptop (or use regular headsets into the remote laptop).

So far, I've operated remotely from Hawaii, Alaska, the Yukon, BC, most of the Western States and all over CA. Yah, the folks at home get jealous; that's just icing on my travel cake. ;o)

While there are other ways to go remote, most of this was 'free' (since I owned it or it WAS free software) and it is pretty darned cool stuff; sometimes being a nerd is pretty awesome.

Merry Christmas,
Rick wa6nhc

-----Original Message-----
From: David Pratt; W0WFH Bill

On 18 Dec 2013 06:40, W0WFH Bill <[hidden email]> wrote
>
> Please respond to me off forum. [hidden email]
>

Please reply on here; I would be interested too.

73 de David G4DMP

David Pratt

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Don Nelson

Re: Using the K3 remote

In reply to this post by Rick WA6NHC

Rick and others,

I use a power strip accessible via Ethernet. This power strip has an IP
address and can be accessed independently from everything else in the
remote radio system. I access this power strip to reset the PC if it has
gone off the rails. I use this power strip to power cycle the radio if
need be. The power strip may be a way to power cycle the K3 because of
its power issues (I am using another brand radio for remote use). And I
use this power strip to disable the remote radio system for security
reasons.

Don N0YE

On 12/18/2013 2:58 AM, Rick Bates wrote:

> I'm cheap. I don't throw things away until they are beyond any reasonable
> use plus I like toys. So here is how I run my K3 remotely:
>
> I have an old laptop for the shack computer. It runs HRD, has a four port
> USB-Serial cable and wifi to the home LAN. It takes only a little power,
> doesn't cost much to run (but I'll have to upgrade it to Win7 soon).
>
> Via HRD, I have full control of the K3 (the next version of HRD will even
> improve this). By using a SignaLink USB for radio audio, I don't ever worry
> about OS noises being transmitted. SLUSB=radio, OS=laptop speakers
>
> I can run the basic K3 via HRD at home or while away (remote); even from
> another computer in the house. BO-ring since I have the KPA500 and KAT500
> as well. So;

..........
In the event that there is a power failure, someone has to have
physical access to the station to turn the K3 power back on. I'm working
on this (use an alarm or tickle the ACC line for now). That someone also
makes a pass through the house to water plants, grab the papers etc.

.............
While there are other ways to go remote, most of this was 'free'
(since I owned it or it WAS free software) and it is pretty darned cool
stuff; sometimes being a nerd is pretty awesome. Merry Christmas, Rick
wa6nhc

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Stewart Bryant

Re: Using the K3 remote

In reply to this post by Rick WA6NHC

On 18/12/2013 09:58, Rick Bates wrote:

> In the event that there is a power failure, someone has to have physical
> access to the station to turn the K3 power back on. I'm working on this
> (use an alarm or tickle the ACC line for now). That someone also makes a
> pass through the house to water plants, grab the papers etc.

I have a K3 that I wish to operate remotely.

I am happy to leave it running all the time, but I have a
computer controlled mains relay on the input of the PSU that I can
use to power cycle it if there is a problem.

Can I just put a link between pins 5 & 8 of the aux plug and
power on/off via the PSU mains?

Also as I understand it (surprisingly) the K3 does not have a
ToT. Is there any simple workround, or any plans to include
on in a future release of the s/w?

- Stewart/G3YSX

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Using the K3 remote

Stewart,

See page 44 of the manual. You cannot simply strap between ACC pins 5
and 8 - that connection must be removed after the power off command is sent.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/5/2014 9:49 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
> I have a K3 that I wish to operate remotely.
>
> I am happy to leave it running all the time, but I have a
> computer controlled mains relay on the input of the PSU that I can
> use to power cycle it if there is a problem.
>
> Can I just put a link between pins 5 & 8 of the aux plug and
> power on/off via the PSU mains?
>

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Stewart Bryant

Re: Using the K3 remote

Hi Don

That is at odds with the FAQ

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm#auxbus

"I understand that if I short two pins from the ACC connector on the
back I can turn the rig on. When shorting those two pins is it
momentary or constant?

"Momentary (at least 0.5 second). Or you can leave it on permanently, at
least until you want to turn the rig off."

Stewart/G3YSX

On 05/02/2014 15:54, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Stewart,
>
> See page 44 of the manual. You cannot simply strap between ACC pins 5
> and 8 - that connection must be removed after the power off command is
> sent.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/5/2014 9:49 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>> I have a K3 that I wish to operate remotely.
>>
>> I am happy to leave it running all the time, but I have a
>> computer controlled mains relay on the input of the PSU that I can
>> use to power cycle it if there is a problem.
>>
>> Can I just put a link between pins 5 & 8 of the aux plug and
>> power on/off via the PSU mains?
>>
>
>

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Using the K3 remote

I don't think it is at odds with the FAQ. Notice the part that says "at
least until you want to turn the rig off."

I think you *would* want to turn it off at some point.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/5/2014 11:05 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:

> Hi Don
>
> That is at odds with the FAQ
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm#auxbus
>
> "I understand that if I short two pins from the ACC connector on the
> back I can turn the rig on. When shorting those two pins is it
> momentary or constant?
>
> "Momentary (at least 0.5 second). Or you can leave it on permanently,
> at least until you want to turn the rig off."
>
> Stewart/G3YSX
>
> On 05/02/2014 15:54, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Stewart,
>>
>> See page 44 of the manual. You cannot simply strap between ACC pins 5
>> and 8 - that connection must be removed after the power off command is
>> sent.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 2/5/2014 9:49 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>>> I have a K3 that I wish to operate remotely.
>>>
>>> I am happy to leave it running all the time, but I have a
>>> computer controlled mains relay on the input of the PSU that I can
>>> use to power cycle it if there is a problem.
>>>
>>> Can I just put a link between pins 5 & 8 of the aux plug and
>>> power on/off via the PSU mains?
>>>
>>
>>
>

Stewart Bryant

Re: Using the K3 remote

Hi Don

True(ish) I tend to leave the rigs running for weeks on end
doing things like WSPR monitoring in their spare time.

However I do have access both local and remote access
to the power supply.

Stewart/G3YSX

On 05/02/2014 16:18, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> I don't think it is at odds with the FAQ. Notice the part that says "at
> least until you want to turn the rig off."
>
> I think you *would* want to turn it off at some point.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/5/2014 11:05 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>> Hi Don
>>
>> That is at odds with the FAQ
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm#auxbus
>>
>> "I understand that if I short two pins from the ACC connector on the
>> back I can turn the rig on. When shorting those two pins is it
>> momentary or constant?
>>
>> "Momentary (at least 0.5 second). Or you can leave it on permanently,
>> at least until you want to turn the rig off."
>>
>> Stewart/G3YSX
>>
>> On 05/02/2014 15:54, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Stewart,
>>>
>>> See page 44 of the manual. You cannot simply strap between ACC pins 5
>>> and 8 - that connection must be removed after the power off command is
>>> sent.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 2/5/2014 9:49 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>>>> I have a K3 that I wish to operate remotely.
>>>>
>>>> I am happy to leave it running all the time, but I have a
>>>> computer controlled mains relay on the input of the PSU that I can
>>>> use to power cycle it if there is a problem.
>>>>
>>>> Can I just put a link between pins 5 & 8 of the aux plug and
>>>> power on/off via the PSU mains?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>