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VLF/LF Converters

Mike-531
Interesting Ron.....and,as a matter of interest, on the 'Night of
Nights', I've copied KPH, on 426kHz, here in the far north of NZ's North
Island, for several years now.
73 de Mike, zl1mh.

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RE: VLF/LF Converters

Scott Prather-2
Regarding the VLF converters, one question I have for the SW folks at
Elecraft is whether they could add a transverter "band" to support these
unique receive converter IF frequencies. For example, I have a VLF converter
that I've used for years that was designed for a 4 MHz IF.

I realize that I can simply tune 4 to 4.5 MHz and mentally ignore the 4 MHz
portion of the display, but it would be ideal if I could define a new
"transverter" band where 4 to 4.5 MHz is displayed on the front panel as
0-500 kHz.

Scott
N7NB

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Subject: [Elecraft] VLF/LF Converters

Interesting Ron.....and,as a matter of interest, on the 'Night of
Nights', I've copied KPH, on 426kHz, here in the far north of NZ's North
Island, for several years now.
73 de Mike, zl1mh.

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RE: VLF/LF Converters

Bruce McLaughlin-2
I have worked the ham station call for the past two years during the "Night
of Nights" and also monitored KPH on all marine frequencies except the 600
meter frequencies.  I simply don't have an antenna for anything that low.
After the second year I sent a QSL and, as you mentioned, I received a nice
QSL on an RCA message form from Ms. Stoops.  The volunteers there are doing
a wonderful job in preserving an important part of radio history by
restoring the old equipment and keeping the station available for tours,
etc.  I also understand they secured a new coastal station license for KSM
which uses the same equipment as KPH and can accept commercial traffic when
it is in operation.

Monitoring KPH, KFS and WCC helped me with learning Morse back in the days
when I was thinking of getting a ham license.  I understand WCC was
dismantled except for the receive building which they are trying to preserve
as a museum but the transmitter location was dismantled and the receive
location has no equipment.  Fortunately, KPH has not suffered that fate.  I
wish I lived close enough to the station to visit during the next Night of
Nights.

Bruce - W8FU

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Wow, Mike!

Have you told them? They'd like to know and you'll get a nice 'QSL' from the
Grand Dame of KPH, Denise Stoops (the first female operator there). She
sends "QSLs" out on original RCA radiogram forms as long as the supply left
over from full time station ops lasts in response to an SASE.

They put in a nice signal here, but I'm only 600 miles away. On the other
hand, I'm close enough that I've managed to be at the station for one of
their "night of nights" activities. That's a special bit of nostalgia for me
since I used to chat with them on the air from ships visiting San Francisco
Bay while testing the shipboard CW gear.

For those here on the reflector without MF capability, KPH also transmits CW
and RTTY on various HF frequencies and is active as K6KPH on several Ham
bands, usually on 7050, 14050 and 21050 kHz and occasionally on 3550 kHz.

There's more info about the facilities, stations in operation and
frequencies used on:

http://www.radiomarine.org 

Ron AC7AC


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Interesting Ron.....and,as a matter of interest, on the 'Night of
Nights', I've copied KPH, on 426kHz, here in the far north of NZ's North
Island, for several years now.
73 de Mike, zl1mh.


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Re: VLF/LF Converters

Don Wilhelm-4
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Scott,

Right now, the K3 XVx RF can be set to most any frequency (MHz
increment) from 0 to 999 - but unfortunately the IF frequency is
currently limited to 7, 14, 21, 28, and 50 MHz.

If we could convince Wayne and Eric to support the 10 MHz band as an IF,
that would work for the 10 MHz IF used in the Jackson Harbor Press kit
that has received some recent 'press' here.  I suppose a 4 MHz If might
be possible too - but that may depend on how many users there may be.
What is the chance that you could change the mixer crystal to give your
VLF converter a 7 MHz IF?  If it has tuned circuits at the output, those
would have to be changed to the new IF as well, but it certainly should
not be a daunting task, perhaps just a few toroids to wind.

I don't know how well any of this works because I have not tried it, but
it seems feasible looking at the K3 transverter interface menus.

73,
Don W3FPR

Scott Prather wrote:

> Regarding the VLF converters, one question I have for the SW folks at
> Elecraft is whether they could add a transverter "band" to support these
> unique receive converter IF frequencies. For example, I have a VLF converter
> that I've used for years that was designed for a 4 MHz IF.
>
> I realize that I can simply tune 4 to 4.5 MHz and mentally ignore the 4 MHz
> portion of the display, but it would be ideal if I could define a new
> "transverter" band where 4 to 4.5 MHz is displayed on the front panel as
> 0-500 kHz.
>
> Scott
> N7NB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:58 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] VLF/LF Converters
>
> Interesting Ron.....and,as a matter of interest, on the 'Night of
> Nights', I've copied KPH, on 426kHz, here in the far north of NZ's North
> Island, for several years now.
> 73 de Mike, zl1mh.
>
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RE: VLF/LF Converters

Scott Prather-2
Don: It's certainly possible to change my VLF converter such that a 7 MHz IF
is used instead, but I brought this up primarily because the addition of
these virtual bands shouldn't be a tremendous effort in SW. But, of course,
such things are always simple for the person who doesn't have to actually do
the work. And the inclusion of such a band could open up the floodgates for
special band requests.

To standardize things a bit, I recommend that Elecraft consider adding the
10 MHz band as an IF in the transverter menu. I can easily move my VLF
converter to a 10 MHz IF and the LO can be supplied by my local H/P
frequency standard.

Scott
N7NB

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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:46 PM
To: Scott Prather
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VLF/LF Converters

Scott,

Right now, the K3 XVx RF can be set to most any frequency (MHz
increment) from 0 to 999 - but unfortunately the IF frequency is
currently limited to 7, 14, 21, 28, and 50 MHz.

If we could convince Wayne and Eric to support the 10 MHz band as an IF,
that would work for the 10 MHz IF used in the Jackson Harbor Press kit
that has received some recent 'press' here.  I suppose a 4 MHz If might
be possible too - but that may depend on how many users there may be.
What is the chance that you could change the mixer crystal to give your
VLF converter a 7 MHz IF?  If it has tuned circuits at the output, those
would have to be changed to the new IF as well, but it certainly should
not be a daunting task, perhaps just a few toroids to wind.

I don't know how well any of this works because I have not tried it, but
it seems feasible looking at the K3 transverter interface menus.

73,
Don W3FPR

Scott Prather wrote:
> Regarding the VLF converters, one question I have for the SW folks at
> Elecraft is whether they could add a transverter "band" to support these
> unique receive converter IF frequencies. For example, I have a VLF
converter
> that I've used for years that was designed for a 4 MHz IF.
>
> I realize that I can simply tune 4 to 4.5 MHz and mentally ignore the 4
MHz

> portion of the display, but it would be ideal if I could define a new
> "transverter" band where 4 to 4.5 MHz is displayed on the front panel as
> 0-500 kHz.
>
> Scott
> N7NB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:58 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] VLF/LF Converters
>
> Interesting Ron.....and,as a matter of interest, on the 'Night of
> Nights', I've copied KPH, on 426kHz, here in the far north of NZ's North
> Island, for several years now.
> 73 de Mike, zl1mh.
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
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