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Very Efficient Ear Buds

Kevin Rock
I just heard about some ear buds which are quite efficient.  They use multiple drivers for each frequency ranges.

Here is a link to a description of them:
<http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-20005384-47.html>

More here:
<http://www.jhaudio.com/store/>

I think it would be fun to test them in the field.
   73,
      Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: Very Efficient Ear Buds

w7go
Yep,
The price is also very reasonable, just ordered mine ;-)

Kevin Rock wrote:

> I just heard about some ear buds which are quite efficient.  They use multiple drivers for each frequency ranges.
>
> Here is a link to a description of them:
> <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-20005384-47.html>
>
> More here:
> <http://www.jhaudio.com/store/>
>
> I think it would be fun to test them in the field.
>    73,
>       Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: Very Efficient Ear Buds

Terry Schieler
I ordered two pair.  One for use with my drums in my basement.  The other as
part of my home-brew sonic jewelry cleaner and freezer defroster!  And to
think, Guns 'n Roses only use the to HEAR THEMSELVES!!!  What a waste.

Terry, W0FM



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From: Tony Morgan [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Very Efficient Ear Buds

Yep,
The price is also very reasonable, just ordered mine ;-)

Kevin Rock wrote:
> I just heard about some ear buds which are quite efficient.  They use
multiple drivers for each frequency ranges.

>
> Here is a link to a description of them:
> <http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-20005384-47.html>
>
> More here:
> <http://www.jhaudio.com/store/>
>
> I think it would be fun to test them in the field.
>    73,
>       Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: Very Efficient Ear Buds

Phil Kane-2
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On 7/14/2010 7:27 PM, Tony Morgan wrote:

>> <http://www.jhaudio.com/store/>

> Yep,
> The price is also very reasonable, just ordered mine ;-)

  I read the ad.  Twice.  I read your message. Twice.  The
  "smiley" is not the sign of a contented customer, I would
  presume!

  $1100 plus!  My K2 cost just a few bucks more than that.  I'll
  continue to use the old WW-II earphones (from a B-17 ?) with my
  radios, thank you!  :-)

--  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
    Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: Very Efficient Ear Buds

P.B. Christensen
Earbuds that completely seal the ear canal scare me.  Has earbud transducer
technology advanced to the point where the transducer's cut off from the
source below a reasonable safety level (roughly 100 dBSPL)?

Over the years, I've had many mistaken disasters when plugging in closed-ear
headphones into dangerously loud sources.  Sometimes my reflexes were
fast -- other times not.  I cannot imagine the damage I would have caused
with earbuds that fit perfectly into the ear canal.

As my teen-aged daughters go through the iPod craze, earbuds of any type
have been off limits.  We only allow them to wear unsealed, on-the-ear
headphones.

Paul, W9AC

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Re: Very Efficient Ear Buds

Jim Brown-10
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:47:53 -0700, Phil Kane wrote:

>$1100 plus!  My K2 cost just a few bucks more than that.

If you want really good in-ear earphones, look at offerings by Etymotic
Research and Shure. Both are widely used by professionals.
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx

http://store.shure.com/store/shure/en_US/list/categoryID.12165500

I own an ER4S and an ER4P, and a three Shure models that precede those
listed on their webpage. I'm happy with all but the lowest cost Shures.  

The Shure products are widely available in the retail distribution
world. I think that Etymotic also has dealers, and the dealers may offer
substantial discounts.

All of these pro products work fine with the ear-fittings that come in
the box, but can be fitted with earmolds. You need to get fitted by an
audiologist. Whether an earmold helps, and how much it helps, depends on
everyone's individual ear. It's sort of like shoes. :)  One of the major
advantages of these in-ear products is superior isolation from room
sound. 40dB is typical of the best, and custom earmolds tend improve on
that. Again, depending on your ears, they may also improve comfort.

73, Jim K9YC




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Re: Very Efficient Ear Buds

Ed Muns, W0YK
K9YC wrote:

> If you want really good in-ear earphones, look at offerings
> by Etymotic Research and Shure. Both are widely used by
> professionals.
> http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx
>
> http://store.shure.com/store/shure/en_US/list/categoryID.12165500
>
> I own an ER4S and an ER4P, and a three Shure models that
> precede those listed on their webpage. I'm happy with all but
> the lowest cost Shures.  
>
> The Shure products are widely available in the retail
> distribution world. I think that Etymotic also has dealers,
> and the dealers may offer substantial discounts.
>
> All of these pro products work fine with the ear-fittings
> that come in the box, but can be fitted with earmolds. You
> need to get fitted by an audiologist. Whether an earmold
> helps, and how much it helps, depends on everyone's
> individual ear. It's sort of like shoes. :)  One of the major
> advantages of these in-ear products is superior isolation
> from room sound. 40dB is typical of the best, and custom
> earmolds tend improve on that. Again, depending on your ears,
> they may also improve comfort.

Earbud specialists say that custom-molded earpieces can actually be less
comforatble for some people than generic ear pieces that come with the
earbuds ... to Jim's point about individuality.

Another 25 dB of isolation can be added by using high-quality ear muffs,
too.  I've found the Bilsom Leightning L3 muffs to be entirely comfortable
over a 48-hour contest weekend.  Quality earbuds with quality ear muffs
provide much more isolation than the best noise-cancelling headphones.

Ed - W0YK

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Re: Very Efficient Ear Buds

ussv dharma
AH....for the good old days.  When I could tune across twenty meters and loads of signals....now, here in kh6, I have to hunt just to find a signal.

Grandmaw Susan


If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM                         USSV DHARMA 




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Re: Very Efficient Ear Buds

Milt -- N5IA
Same here yesterday when I particpated in a "Show and Tell" for Explorer
Scouts at a camporee on top of a 10,000 Ft. mountain in AZ.  We really had
to search to get a couple of signals who were of strength and clarity to
conduct an open air demonstration of HF communication.

A K3 sitting on the hood of my Suburban running directly connected to the
battery for power, and connected to a 20 Meter dipole in the clear, strung
between two fir trees, found VERY few signals on SSB and CW.

The group of ~35 scouts and leaders found it exciting to communicate
directly via the ether with a station in eastern CO and OH (a 3-way).  Some
of the scouts were intrigued with the CW demo, and tried their fingers on
the iambic paddles while listening to the dits and dahs on the K3 monitor.
Hopefully we set the hook in a couple of them.

This mountain is named Heliograph Peak, and was used in the 1880's by the US
Calvary for relay communications via Heliographs between forts down on the
desert floor.  Hence the name Heliograph Peak.  To demonstrate the method of
communications from 130 years ago, we used mirrors to flash to pre-arranged
parties in the City of Safford, AZ, 7,000' below and 20 miles away from us.

This mountain top is also a modern communications site and we gave them a
tour of the towers, buildings and electronic equipment.  We showed them
amateur VHF and UHF repeaters, IRLP, remote controlled base stations and
APRS systems that our club has operating at this location.

All in all a great day with a fine group of youth and their leaders.  Just
needed more signals on 20 Meters.

Milt, N5IA

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AH....for the good old days.  When I could tune across twenty meters and
loads of signals....now, here in kh6, I have to hunt just to find a signal.

Grandmaw Susan

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