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JOE-2
Hello to All,

I'm having trouble with connecting to the W-2 wattmeter with the
Elecraft W2 Interface software available on the website using an
internet connection.  The wattmeter is V1.00 software and the W-2
software is V1.12.1.18  The error is "Looking for a W2 on Network".

I had this working in the past and now it has me stumped.  Using Putty
communication software I can connect to the remote W-2 and it responds
with V1.00 when I invoke the "V" command so I know the connection is
good. Using a direct connection to the W2 from the computer com port
works fine.  I'm using the factory cable that did work in the past.

The W2 Interface software is set up with Network (TCP/IP) checked,
Client, and the server IP and port that worked with Putty.

This has me stumped.  It has to be something simple that I am missing.

73, Joe, K1ike
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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

John-6
Hi Joe,

I'd not realised until now that you can do this with the W2, but I'm looking
to set mine up to test this now for you!

I assume you have the same W2 software running at both ends? It looks to me
that the network function simply bridges the software at both sides, based
on the manual.

When you say you are connecting to the remote W2, where are you doing this?
From the 'client' machine? From the 'server' machine connected to the W2? If
from the 'client', what exact settings are you using?

You've not got anything like Windows Firewall running on either end, have
you? Have any updates been done on either PC? What OSs are you working with?

73, and a firm left handshake,
John (XLX)

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of JOE
Sent: 28 August 2016 16:59
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] W-2 Wattmeter software

Hello to All,

I'm having trouble with connecting to the W-2 wattmeter with the Elecraft W2
Interface software available on the website using an internet connection.
The wattmeter is V1.00 software and the W-2 software is V1.12.1.18  The
error is "Looking for a W2 on Network".

I had this working in the past and now it has me stumped.  Using Putty
communication software I can connect to the remote W-2 and it responds with
V1.00 when I invoke the "V" command so I know the connection is good. Using
a direct connection to the W2 from the computer com port works fine.  I'm
using the factory cable that did work in the past.

The W2 Interface software is set up with Network (TCP/IP) checked, Client,
and the server IP and port that worked with Putty.

This has me stumped.  It has to be something simple that I am missing.

73, Joe, K1ike
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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

Bill K9YEQ
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Try checking to be sure you have enabled an available comm port.

Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of JOE
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 10:59 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] W-2 Wattmeter software

Hello to All,

I'm having trouble with connecting to the W-2 wattmeter with the Elecraft W2
Interface software available on the website using an internet connection.
The wattmeter is V1.00 software and the W-2 software is V1.12.1.18  The
error is "Looking for a W2 on Network".

I had this working in the past and now it has me stumped.  Using Putty
communication software I can connect to the remote W-2 and it responds with
V1.00 when I invoke the "V" command so I know the connection is good. Using
a direct connection to the W2 from the computer com port works fine.  I'm
using the factory cable that did work in the past.

The W2 Interface software is set up with Network (TCP/IP) checked, Client,
and the server IP and port that worked with Putty.

This has me stumped.  It has to be something simple that I am missing.

73, Joe, K1ike
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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

JOE-2
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Hello John,

We have a remote station that is 10 miles from my house.  I use
Remoterig to link a TS480SAT from my house to the remote site. There is
also a 600 watt amplifier at the site, so I am using the W2 wattmeter to
monitor the output and VSWR at the remote location.  The Elecraft W2
Interface software is loaded on my computer at my house and is used as a
client to talk to the remote site.  No com port is involved on the local
computer.  At the site I have a device called an Avocent ESP-4 Serial
Hub.  This is connected to the LAN at the site and provides 4 com ports
for various pieces of equipment.  All was working well, except for the
fact that I had to occasionally power cycle the W2 wattmeter to get it
to connect.  I built a small circuit that powers up the W2 wattmeter
when the DTR goes high when the software connects.  The OS in the
computer and the W2 software has not changed.

It's almost as if the Elecraft W2 Interface software has stopped
functioning for some reason.

Joe

On 8/28/2016 12:45 PM, John wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>
> I'd not realised until now that you can do this with the W2, but I'm looking
> to set mine up to test this now for you!
>
> I assume you have the same W2 software running at both ends? It looks to me
> that the network function simply bridges the software at both sides, based
> on the manual.
>
> When you say you are connecting to the remote W2, where are you doing this?
> >From the 'client' machine? From the 'server' machine connected to the W2? If
> from the 'client', what exact settings are you using?
>
> You've not got anything like Windows Firewall running on either end, have
> you? Have any updates been done on either PC? What OSs are you working with?
>
> 73, and a firm left handshake,
> John (XLX)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of JOE
> Sent: 28 August 2016 16:59
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] W-2 Wattmeter software
>
> Hello to All,
>
> I'm having trouble with connecting to the W-2 wattmeter with the Elecraft W2
> Interface software available on the website using an internet connection.
> The wattmeter is V1.00 software and the W-2 software is V1.12.1.18  The
> error is "Looking for a W2 on Network".
>
> I had this working in the past and now it has me stumped.  Using Putty
> communication software I can connect to the remote W-2 and it responds with
> V1.00 when I invoke the "V" command so I know the connection is good. Using
> a direct connection to the W2 from the computer com port works fine.  I'm
> using the factory cable that did work in the past.
>
> The W2 Interface software is set up with Network (TCP/IP) checked, Client,
> and the server IP and port that worked with Putty.
>
> This has me stumped.  It has to be something simple that I am missing.
>
> 73, Joe, K1ike
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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

JOE-2
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No computer com ports are used in this application, as it is an IP
connection.

Joe

On 8/28/2016 2:04 PM, Bill wrote:
> Try checking to be sure you have enabled an available comm port.
>

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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

Bill K9YEQ
Pardon me.  It appeared to me the question, which was not not included in
your reply, was about making some setting changes to the watt meter, which
is part of the Utility and connected to a PC comm port.  

Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 7:51 PM
To: Bill <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] W-2 Wattmeter software

No computer com ports are used in this application, as it is an IP
connection.

Joe

On 8/28/2016 2:04 PM, Bill wrote:
> Try checking to be sure you have enabled an available comm port.
>

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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

JOE-2
Hi Bill,

The software has the capability of connecting to a com port as you
described, but it also can be set up as a client.  In the client
configuration it does not use the com port.  I'm using it in the client
configuration.

73, Joe, k1ike

On 8/28/2016 9:04 PM, Bill wrote:
> Pardon me.  It appeared to me the question, which was not not included in
> your reply, was about making some setting changes to the watt meter, which
> is part of the Utility and connected to a PC comm port.
>
> Bill
> K9YEQ

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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

Michael Walker
Correct, but you do need the initial first com port to connect the W2 to the computer. Then you can do a client / server connection over IP.

I've been doing it for years.

Mike va3mw

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 9:25 PM, JOE <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> The software has the capability of connecting to a com port as you described, but it also can be set up as a client.  In the client configuration it does not use the com port.  I'm using it in the client configuration.
>
> 73, Joe, k1ike
>
>> On 8/28/2016 9:04 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Pardon me.  It appeared to me the question, which was not not included in
>> your reply, was about making some setting changes to the watt meter, which
>> is part of the Utility and connected to a PC comm port.
>>
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ
>
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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

JOE-2
The W2 wattmeter is connected to an RS-232 port onan  Avocent ESP-4
Serial Hub at the remote location.  This eliminates the need for a
computer at the remote site.

73, Joe, K1ike

On 8/28/2016 9:33 PM, Mike va3mw wrote:
> Correct, but you do need the initial first com port to connect the W2 to the computer. Then you can do a client / server connection over IP.
>
> I've been doing it for years.
>
> Mike va3mw

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Re: W-2 Wattmeter software

John-6
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Hi Joe,

I threw together a quick test in my shack here, did some packet captures
because I was curious about what it actually does, and also did some other
testing.

First things first... On your client machine, open a telnet (or raw, it
doesn't matter which) connection to your server's IP address on port 2001
(or whatever the port you set on your 'server' pc is). You should see what
looks like a lot of gibberish, repeating itself in 8 character blocks. If
this is working then your remote end is successfully connected to the W2,
you have communication through to your remote end, and the fault lies with
your local copy of the W2 software.

If your terminal connection does not receive the strings of gibberish, then
the fault is with your remote copy of the W2 software, because, as you said,
your Avocent device can see the W2 and give you version information. I've
seen once that I had to power cycle the W2 after the software was running to
get the software to see it again, but usually that side seems stable.

For reference, I've pasted a small (half a second) output of the 'gibberish'
I refer to.

73, and a firm left handshake,
John (XLX)

========================= pasted content =========================

R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;
F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000
D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S
0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R
00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F
00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I2112
0120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0
000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R0
0000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F0
0000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000
D3;R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S00
00;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00
000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D
3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D
3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S000
0;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I2
1120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3
;S0000;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;I21120120011;F00000D3;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3
;R00000D3;S0000;F00000D3;

==============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: JOE [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 29 August 2016 01:50
To: John <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] W-2 Wattmeter software

Hello John,

We have a remote station that is 10 miles from my house.  I use Remoterig to
link a TS480SAT from my house to the remote site. There is also a 600 watt
amplifier at the site, so I am using the W2 wattmeter to monitor the output
and VSWR at the remote location.  The Elecraft W2 Interface software is
loaded on my computer at my house and is used as a client to talk to the
remote site.  No com port is involved on the local computer.  At the site I
have a device called an Avocent ESP-4 Serial Hub.  This is connected to the
LAN at the site and provides 4 com ports for various pieces of equipment.
All was working well, except for the fact that I had to occasionally power
cycle the W2 wattmeter to get it to connect.  I built a small circuit that
powers up the W2 wattmeter when the DTR goes high when the software
connects.  The OS in the computer and the W2 software has not changed.

It's almost as if the Elecraft W2 Interface software has stopped functioning
for some reason.

Joe

On 8/28/2016 12:45 PM, John wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>
> I'd not realised until now that you can do this with the W2, but I'm
> looking to set mine up to test this now for you!
>
> I assume you have the same W2 software running at both ends? It looks
> to me that the network function simply bridges the software at both
> sides, based on the manual.
>
> When you say you are connecting to the remote W2, where are you doing
this?
> >From the 'client' machine? From the 'server' machine connected to the
> >W2? If
> from the 'client', what exact settings are you using?
>
> You've not got anything like Windows Firewall running on either end,
> have you? Have any updates been done on either PC? What OSs are you
working with?

>
> 73, and a firm left handshake,
> John (XLX)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> JOE
> Sent: 28 August 2016 16:59
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] W-2 Wattmeter software
>
> Hello to All,
>
> I'm having trouble with connecting to the W-2 wattmeter with the
> Elecraft W2 Interface software available on the website using an internet
connection.

> The wattmeter is V1.00 software and the W-2 software is V1.12.1.18  
> The error is "Looking for a W2 on Network".
>
> I had this working in the past and now it has me stumped.  Using Putty
> communication software I can connect to the remote W-2 and it responds
> with
> V1.00 when I invoke the "V" command so I know the connection is good.
> Using a direct connection to the W2 from the computer com port works
> fine.  I'm using the factory cable that did work in the past.
>
> The W2 Interface software is set up with Network (TCP/IP) checked,
> Client, and the server IP and port that worked with Putty.
>
> This has me stumped.  It has to be something simple that I am missing.
>
> 73, Joe, K1ike
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