Weak Signal Propagation Reporter WSPR software

[KD8NNU]

Does anyone use the wisper WSPR software with their K3.

It looks kind of interesting to me to use as a way to look at what your
antenna may be doing on different bands.

http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/index.html


Don
KD8NNU
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[Matt Zilmer]

Hi Don,

I use WSPR sometimes when propagation is doubtful to see if it
improves or not.  Works great on this K3.  There is also a web page
that displays all WSPR receiving stations and what stations they've
copied:  http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/map.  You can set the band
your interested in, and center the map on your own lat / long.  Very
cool site!

I like 30m WSPR the best.  YMMV.

Note: Running very low TX power levels like 2W is common with WSPR.
That's the 'WS' part!  I run 5W or less at all times.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Sun, 29 May 2011 12:06:31 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:

>
>Does anyone use the wisper WSPR software with their K3.
>
>It looks kind of interesting to me to use as a way to look at what your
>antenna may be doing on different bands.
>
>http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/index.html
>
>
>Don
>KD8NNU
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[Robert Wright]

Hi Don,

My K3 is currently running WSPR at 1 watt on 20 meters through a DX-CC
multiband dipole in a third story attic.

You can see the signal reports here:
http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/map 

(To see my current results, set the callsign to N7ZO, band to 20M, and
period to last 24 hours.)

Even when the bands seem to be dead, I am always amazed how well the
signal is still getting around the world.

Bob
N7ZO


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Does anyone use the wisper WSPR software with their K3.

It looks kind of interesting to me to use as a way to look at what your
antenna may be doing on different bands.

http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/index.html


Don
KD8NNU
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On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:06 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Does anyone use the wisper WSPR software...


I have used it quite a bit. It's fun and can give some good info when trying
to compare antennas.

Other very cool JT software includes JT-65HF and WSJT9. A glimpse into the
thought processes of a really, really smart guy who loves ham radio.

Tony KT0NY
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[KD8NNU]

Gents

Would someone who is using the WSPR software share how they have the
setup configured for the K3.

I can not get it to go to TX.  I have something wrong with either the
CAT or PTT settings.

For some reason I can not get it to work right.   I tried to copy
setting from HRD but no dice with this software.

Don
KD8NNU


On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:06 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Does anyone use the wisper WSPR software...
>
>
> I have used it quite a bit. It's fun and can give some good info when
> trying
> to compare antennas.
>
> Other very cool JT software includes JT-65HF and WSJT9. A glimpse into
> the
> thought processes of a really, really smart guy who loves ham radio.
>
> Tony KT0NY
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[John Ragle]

These are the settings I have used...

To run WSJT on K3 with SignaLinkUSB:

(The soundcard settings that FLDIGI takes care of automatically, when
set up, must be done MANUALLY in WSJT. Otherwise, the setup is the same.)
1.K3 in “TX DATA”
2.K3 at 50.260 (for six meter operation)
3.K3 with “CONFIG” “LINE OUT” ~ 20. This depends on Digital Gain Setting
on SpecJT (lower right-hand side).
4.SignaLink-USB ON
5.PC “Playback Devices” (right-click on speaker mini-icon) must have
“Speakers USB Audio Codec” as “Default Device”
6.PC “Recording Devices” must have “Microphone USB Audio Codec” as
“Default Device”
(Items 5 and 6 are the soundcard settings, obviously)

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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On 5/29/2011 8:17 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Would someone who is using the WSPR software share how they have the
> setup configured for the K3.
>
> I can not get it to go to TX.  I have something wrong with either the
> CAT or PTT settings.

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[Tony Estep]

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Gents
>
> Would someone who is using the WSPR software share how they have the
> setup configured for the K3.
>
> I can not get it to go to TX....


 Don,

It sounds like you have it receiving. In case you don't: No interface is
necessary, and things are simpler if you don't use one. Just connect line
out on the back of the K3 to mic in, and line in to speaker out.

Once you get it receiving, it's time to transmit. The first thing is to get
PTT to work, which apparently is where you are stuck.

In WSPR, set PTT method to DTR. Set PTT port to the Com port that you are
using to connect the K3 to your computer. Ignore CAT for the moment.

Save the setup and put WSPR into idle. Set the transmit slider to 5%; this
will make test transmissions 5 seconds long.

Put the K3 in USB mode, and press Tune. The K3 should go into transmit. If
not, the DTR line is not getting to the K3 for whatever reason. If it
doesn't work, at least you know where the problem lies. In my case, the
USB/serial port adapter I'm using delivers signals over DTR and RTS.
Hopefully, yours will as well.

Once you have PTT working, go back and set up CAT. The only thing CAT does
with WSPR is set the K3's frequency correctly in response to a band change
on the WSPR console. This is easy to test, and if it doesn't work, no harm:
just set the frequency by hand to the value shown in the Dial: box.

When you get to this point, the only thing remaining is to set levels. Set
the computer's Mic level for 0 db received noise when the green Receiving
light is on, and the computer's Speaker level so that ALC shows 3-4 bars but
never 5. You will probably have to set the K3's Configure>Line In to a low
number, maybe 003 or so.

HTH!

73,
Tony KT0NY
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[KD8NNU]

HI Group,

I have it up and running.

I am amaized on how far your signal can be heard with only 1 watt WOW.

Now I have to work on that JP65 mode.

Don
KD8NNU


On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:16 PM, John Ragle wrote:

> These are the settings I have used...
>
> To run WSJT on K3 with SignaLinkUSB:
>
> (The soundcard settings that FLDIGI takes care of automatically, when
> set up, must be done MANUALLY in WSJT. Otherwise, the setup is the
> same.)
> 1.K3 in “TX DATA”
> 2.K3 at 50.260 (for six meter operation)
> 3.K3 with “CONFIG” “LINE OUT” ~ 20. This depends on Digital Gain
> Setting on SpecJT (lower right-hand side).
> 4.SignaLink-USB ON
> 5.PC “Playback Devices” (right-click on speaker mini-icon) must have
> “Speakers USB Audio Codec” as “Default Device”
> 6.PC “Recording Devices” must have “Microphone USB Audio Codec” as
> “Default Device”
> (Items 5 and 6 are the soundcard settings, obviously)
>
> John Ragle -- W1ZI
>
> =====
>
> On 5/29/2011 8:17 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> Would someone who is using the WSPR software share how they have the
>> setup configured for the K3.
>>
>> I can not get it to go to TX.  I have something wrong with either the
>> CAT or PTT settings.
>
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[Edward R Cole]

I have been using WSPR, primarily on the 600m band (495.9 KHz), as
part of the ARRL 600m Experimental Group (WD2XSH).
http://500kc.com/
The furthest my 4.15w ERP signal was detected was 2893 miles.  I also
have tried it a little on 6m.
I have used its brother, JT-65, extensively on 144-eme.

WSPR gives you a snapshot of propagation on any band.  Go to
http://wsprnet.org/drupal/ to view this.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[Barry Garratt]

>Other very cool JT software includes JT-65HF and WSJT9. A glimpse into the
thought processes of a really, really smart guy who loves ham radio.


FWIW the JT65-HF software is by Joe Large W6CQZ not Joe Taylor K1JT. And I
agree both are very smart guys who really enjoy ham radio.

Barry KS7DX


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[Tony Estep]

Hi Stan,

You can do it. I'm probably older than you (72) -- it just takes patience
and some fiddling.

The first thing to do is to plug in those patch cords. In fact, let's start
with just one. Plug it into the Lin Out on the back of the K3, and the Mic
jack on your computer.

Then bring up WSPR. Set the "Transmit %" slider to 0% so that it won't try
to transmit. Then click the "Setup" menu at the top, and open Station
Parameters.

Put in your call and your grid square (you can find it out on QRZ.com if you
don't know it. Look up your call, then click "details").

Then click the drop-down menu for "Audio In" and select Microphone.

Make sure your computer's clock is accurate to within 1 second. There are
various ways to do this, but for the moment I'll assume you have that
figured out.

Set your receiver on 14095.6, USB, and on WSPR select Band>20M.

Now make sure the "Idle" box is not clicked, and wait for the beginning of
an even-numbered minute.

Pretty soon you'll see a green box at lower right saying "Receiving," and
the lower left box will say "Rx Noise XX DB".

On the K3, adjust Config > Line Out to bring the Rx noise to somewhere near
0 DB.

To fine-tune the audio in, look on the Task Bar for the little picture of
the speaker (lower right, next to the time & date). Right-click that icon,
and a menu will appear. Select "Recording Devices."

A menu will pop up. Double-click Microphone, and then select the Levels tab.
A slider will appear, which you can adjust to get the Rx Noise to (more or
less) 0 DB.

Now go get some coffee and let WSPR run in receive mode for a while. If your
system clock is accurate, you'll see callsigns appear in the white box.
You're receiving!!

Once you get to that point, email me and we'll try to get you transmitting.

Good luck & 73,
Tony KT0NY
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