What caused long reposts

[Terry]

I notice that sometimes when someone replies to a question on what appears to be the digest form of the list,  the entire digest gets reposted.

I read my digest list with my iPhone and when that happens the digest gets extremely long.

How can I guard against this if I reply to a digest message. I don't want to inflict the long posts on others.

Thanks and 73's

Terry de N7TB
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[Don Wilhelm]

Terry,

If you delete all but the relevant reference to what you are posting and
change the subject to something relevant, no one will complain.

The problem is that some will just reply to the digest, and the subject
line is "digest" (or something like that), and the item in the digest
that you are trying to reply to is buried in the mass of digest posts
with no identification of what you are replying to.  That means that
your reply is not meaningful, and users are apt to just hit the delete
button.

I understand that those steps are more difficult on a smartphone.  It is
easy when using an email client like Thunderbird.  As I have stated, I
suggest receiving individual emails and sorting them into an Elecraft
folder.  That way you can reply to individual posts without the bother
of deleting a lot of information.  I do not receive email on a
smartphone, so I don't have any suggestions for handling that.

Oh yes, when replying to an individual email, snip all but the relevant
information, and the stuff added by mailman.qth.com should be deleted as
well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/1/2017 9:59 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
> I notice that sometimes when someone replies to a question on what appears to be the digest form of the list,  the entire digest gets reposted.
>
> I read my digest list with my iPhone and when that happens the digest gets extremely long.
>
> How can I guard against this if I reply to a digest message. I don't want to inflict the long posts on others.
>
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[David Woolley (E.L)]

If you are using Thunderbird, I believe the best way is to request the
digest in MIME Digest mode.  As well as allowing you to page through the
digest, it also allows you to treat the individual messages as
attachments, so you can open up the specific  message and reply to it.
That way, you get the correct subject, and, more subtly, you get the
correct In-Reply-To header, so that forums and good mail clients can
properly place the reply in the thread.

That's how I do all replies to this list.

(Note Thunderbird does have some bugs, e.g. I had to delete a redundant
"Re:" from the subject.  It can also be a little fiddly working out
which instance of the subject is the correct one in the attachments.)

Unfortunately, the top posting policy of the list reduces the incentive
to trim posts, meaning people who do end up quoting the digest don't
think about pruning it.  Failing to prune is also bad for readers of the
digest, as they have to page over the complete back thread.

This has been top-posted, but also pruned, as it would be for an
interleaved posting (popularly called bottom posting, although not
everything need be at the bottom).

On 02/04/17 03:35, Don Wilhelm wrote:

>
> I understand that those steps are more difficult on a smartphone.  It is
> easy when using an email client like Thunderbird.  As I have stated, I
> suggest receiving individual emails and sorting them into an Elecraft
> folder.  That way you can reply to individual posts without the bother
> of deleting a lot of information.  I do not receive email on a
> smartphone, so I don't have any suggestions for handling that.
>

--
David Woolley K2 06123.

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[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT-2]

If you are using Thunderbird, select the relevant part(s) before you hit
reply.

Doesn't matter if you're in digest mode or receive each post as a
separate message, just select the relevant parts of the message and
that's all that shows up in the response.

A quick rule can put all Elecraft mail in a separate folder, and then it
only takes a moment to delete mail that's not of interest.

73 -- Lynn

On 4/2/2017 4:08 PM, David Woolley wrote:
> If you are using Thunderbird, I believe the best way is to request the
> digest in MIME Digest mode.  As well as allowing you to page through the
> digest, it also allows you to treat the individual messages as
> attachments, so you can open up the specific  message and reply to it.
> That way, you get the correct subject, and, more subtly, you get the
> correct In-Reply-To header, so that forums and good mail clients can
> properly place the reply in the thread.
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