With the K4 coming, is it time to replace this email list with a forum?

[Barry]

I use Nabble, too.  It's better than email, but it's been broken for years.
Often, responses to a topic is split from the original, and 99% of posts
wind up in the main section, rather than parsed to the subheadings by radio.

Barry W2UP


John_N1JM wrote
> I use and go to Nabble. No emails from the list come to me.
>
> John N1JM





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[Björn Ekelund]

I subscribe to about two dozen email reflectors, this one being the only
one that is not on groups.io.
I think a move is long overdue.

Björn SM7IUN

Den mån 7 sep. 2020 kl 14:36 skrev Robert Rennard via Elecraft <
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> I agree with Dave that we should start putting the Elecraft product model
> as the first token in the mail header; e,g, K4,  and stop lazily recycling
> a prior header with a totally different topic in the body.  Of course,
> worse yet is somebody responding to a digest such that we get the entirety
> of the digest the reflector sent to him.  As Bill Nye, the science guy,
> said recently, “Common sense is not all that common”.
>
> One thing I like about groups.io which currently has a K4 forum, is that
> it allows using hash tags as the first part of the topic line so that I can
> filter out topics that do not interest me.  In the case of my local radio
> club, I use a #DMR filter, and they make me apply a #HF hash tag.
>
> Bob R – N7WY
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[Stephen Shearer]

I use Thunderbird for my email.
I filter almost everything into one folder or another.  Works great
I filter[Elecraft] and {Elecraft-K4] with any K4 "stuff" in the subject
line, into a K4 folder. *It could just as easily go into the trash...*
Thunderbird does this automatically about every 10 minutes.
New mail in a folder has a hi-lighted folder and mail count.

easy.

YES, a good subject line helps.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 9/6/20 6:53 PM, W2xj wrote:

> *then build a filter. *
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> David Gilbert-2 wrote
>>> And as others have pointed out, there is already a K4 forum on .io .....
>>> why doesn't that work for you??
>>>
>>> Dave   AB7E
>> Because I'm not looking for a K4 forum.*I'm looking to AVOID all the K4*
>> traffic that will be comping.
>>
>> Barry W2UP
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[k6dgw]

Hmmm ... The International Morse Code is 1905 technology, and the
American Morse [Vail] Code is 1840's.  You're suggesting we should all
abandon CW because it's old technology? [;=)

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
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On 9/6/2020 7:06 PM, Barry wrote:
> My point is there's no need to hit a DELETE key in a forum with a list of
> subject titles that one may choose to read, or not.  Email lists are 1980s
> technology.
> Barry W2UP
>
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On 2020-09-07 at 14:35 Robert Rennard via Elecraft wrote:
>> I agree with Dave that we should start putting the Elecraft product model as the first token in the mail header

This has, and still is a prerequisite nearly from the start of this list...


This is what Eric said about using this list in 2008 and please see
especially sub 4b as a new item added then:
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So not new at all, I think.

73,
Peter - PA0PJE
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