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Jeremiah McCarthy
On this side of the lake these bits are known as "brad-points"...There is another similar type known as "Forstner", but they are much more expensive and I am not sure they are available in the smaller diameters...

Jerry, wa2dkg

>>Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but, I've tried using wood drills (the ones with the point which only cut on the outside edge, good for thin sheet metal, too) to make copper lands on a plain board. I think they are also known as torpedo drills. I've seen kits made up of lots of little squares or circles of pcb material that you stick onto your main copper clad board. That's a little more messy, but works. I prefer the drill method, it also starts a hole for your component wire.<<

>>David
G3UNA<<
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Re: Wood bits

Jack Smith-6

> On this side of the lake these bits are known as "brad-points"...There is another similar type known as "Forstner", but they are much more expensive and I am not sure they are available in the smaller diameters...
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After a few days use, I've found the diamond core drills to work pretty
well for making island pads. Depending on where you purchase them and
the drill size, the price runs between $4 and $12 each. They seem to be
available commonly on Ebay as sets from Hong Kong. Domestic US sources
are more expensive. The diamond core drills are used in stained glass
and rock collecting hobbies. They are a true core drill and do not cut a
center hole. This also means the work can get away from you if not
clamped to the drill press table.

I have 5 mm (3/16"), 7 mm (1/4") and 8 mm (5/16") core drills and find
myself using the 7 mm more than the others.

Jack K8ZOA

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Re: Wood bits

k4elv
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Forstner bits are available to 1/8th inch, but are expensive.  The reason
not to use them is that the cutting edge would dull in no time due to the
copper clad board.  A real waste of a good bit.
Mike K4ELV
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> On this side of the lake these bits are known as "brad-points"...There is
> another similar type known as "Forstner", but they are much more expensive
> and I am not sure they are available in the smaller diameters...
>
> Jerry, wa2dkg
>
>>>Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but, I've tried using wood
>>>drills (the ones with the point which only cut on the outside edge, good
>>>for thin sheet metal, too) to make copper lands on a plain board. I think
>>>they are also known as torpedo drills. I've seen kits made up of lots of
>>>little squares or circles of pcb material that you stick onto your main
>>>copper clad board. That's a little more messy, but works. I prefer the
>>>drill method, it also starts a hole for your component wire.<<
>
>>>David
> G3UNA<<
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Re: Wood bits

AJSOENKE
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In a previous post I stated that I had a set of bits that were designed  
specifically for this purpose.
I dug the kit out of my PCB toolkit and have  the following information.
Note: The reference to the company that made the  kit  yielded only one reference
on Google and a post on kkn.net archives  which are password protected. It
seems assured that the company no longer  exists:

A. F. Stahler Co.
PO Box 354
Cupertino, CA 95014
(408)  252-4219

4 part kit consists of 4 plastic vials.

1) Part Number  156915 - a single "drill mill" shank dia. .200, mill end dia.
.150, concentric  drill dia. .028

2) Part Number 156910 - a single "drill mill" shank dia.  .200, mill end dia.
.108, concentric drill dia. .028
 
3) Part Number 156920 - a single "drill mill" shank dia. .200, mill end  dia.
.200, concentric drill dia. .028
 
4) No PN contains 3 spare diamond drills .028 dia. and about a  dozen nylon
hex head screws, abt #4 x 1/8" long
  The purpose of the nylon screws is to drill into a PCB and insert  then
dril thru hole in nylon to create an insulated standoff or feedthru.
 
My recollection was that  A F Stahler was or may have been a ham who  did a
lot of building and back in 1970s he provided the tools as a method of  
breadboarding. He may also have been an antenna designer with many patented  designs.
 
This may be more significant: one of the items I found in my toolkit  was a
similar device that is/was made by VECTOR. As may be recalled they  
manufactured a breadboard system that employed vector board which had a grid of  holes
where you  could push in a small metal clip that was sometimes  referred to as a
"flea clip". it had a couple small holes in it and could also  daisy chain
buss wire and component leads in a serrated slit on top. Spreading  the slit
slightly secured it in the vectorboard. It was solderable, but a  circuit could
be created by purely mechanical pressure fit. They advanced to the  aid of PCB
breadboarding later and supplied what I have is a VECTOR P-138  bit.
 
_http://www.vectorelect.com/Catpdf/Page%2071.pdf_
(http://www.vectorelect.com/Catpdf/Page%2071.pdf)
 
If you drilled a hole in a blank copperclad board there is a pilot pin on  
the bit that would go in the hole and by turning bit in a small drill it cuts a  
"doughnut" shaped pattern on board.
 
The URL shows an array of tools - also check out the home page for a vast  
array of prototyping tools and materials. Sold by Mouser and others  
_http://www.vectorelect.com/_ (http://www.vectorelect.com/)
 
Good Luck,  AL WA6VNN



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Re: Wood bits

David Cutter
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Ah, yes, thanks for the reminder.  I think the 'torpedo' refers to
Australia.  I got this tip from a QRP manual.

David
G3UNA

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